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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:16 am
which parts religion and science is fact? I personally am a scientific person thats also a christian, I am asking what do you think about the diffrent issues out there, like big boom vs creation, and evolution vs creation. after a couple posts I will say what I think
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:03 pm
Well, I am a very firm believer in god but I also believe in evolution. I really don't question any of it. I do not believe in the creation story but they HAVE found evidence that Moshe crossed the red sea. So really, I don't know. I say people are people and if they choose to believe in a god, that's great. We're learning evolution and it really makes sense to me.
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:06 pm
o.k. I'm here to give my Advanced opinion here
(please note in another thread i asked Ang to create a new section so if she does this here will get moved)
I've spent many years considering this question. believe me when i say I've considered all the "reasonable" theory's. I've also discussed it with my parents who are lay readers in our church.
My conclusion is that both are true. Evolution and Creation. It's a question of understanding how both can coincide.
1) The Big bang Happened. But Matter does not simply come into existence by it's self. By rights' according to Physic's the Universe should not exist. But it does and somehow the matter must have come from somewhere. hence us.
2) The Earth is supporting life. And not just any life. According to evolution life came to earth and grew from basic enzymes. Again physicly impossible according to the rules of Physics that the right elements to create life could simply coincide.
3) Creation begins with Adam and Eve right? according to the Bible yes. but almost the whole of the Old Testament was written based on story's told down through the ages. So therefor we must assume the breakdown of Chinese whispers in the story telling. I think it is safe to assume most of the Old Testament is fairly accurate. However we must consider that some content of the first few books are not as some peole might say "The Gospel truth"
4) We are all reasonable thinking humans that can think for ourself's right? Well we should not just listen to what we are told. in fact to be made in gods image means to question! question what I've said by all means. but consider that i have spent years working on my answer to your question. and to be honest. I still am. But i think that my theory fits all of the known evidence?
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:52 pm
for me I think evolution and creation is true, just makes more logic together, God created everything, but made sure we can evolve over time so we won't always be hopeless
the big bang thing is a big joke, if it happened once why isn't it happening more? could it be that it was made like this and is made to grow?
I think the Lord made rules for everything out there, its not his fault some people are too angry to accept we are not the best out there
but I also have a feeling that the lord gave us some...hidden...gifts that can only come out after a long amount of time, if you look at the weather you might spot someone learning about their gifts 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:51 pm
That's why i suggested a Religion section. Because what you've just come out with Bronze, I from my point of view would class as religious trash.
I'm just curious. But are you with the Roman Catholic Church Denomination?
Only you do seem to be from that branch in your Theology.
I'm asking because it gives me some idea of where your coming from. That way i can make my points more clearer to you, If i know what your background is on Theology and Religion. (If that makes sense?)
(I'm just trying to make sure i come out here as honest, not rude)
But then again about my first point. I'm very Liberal in my approach because i see that as the way from my point of view the church is meant to be. Unfortunately that comes with being very critical of right wing Theology.
Theology = The study of god. Or the "Omnipresent" as some people refer to it.
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:06 am
syketheassai That's why i suggested a Religion section. Because what you've just come out with Bronze, I from my point of view would class as religious trash. I'm just curious. But are you with the Roman Catholic Church Denomination? Only you do seem to be from that branch in your Theology. I'm asking because it gives me some idea of where your coming from. That way i can make my points more clearer to you, If i know what your background is on Theology and Religion. (If that makes sense?) (I'm just trying to make sure i come out here as honest, not rude) But then again about my first point. I'm very Liberal in my approach because i see that as the way from my point of view the church is meant to be. Unfortunately that comes with being very critical of right wing Theology. Theology = The study of god. Or the "Omnipresent" as some people refer to it. presbiterian actually, and I was just wondering if everyone was either pure religious or purely scientific cause I have caught flack from both sides, but unlike what my church says I know ghosts are real, seeing them with your own eyes kind of kill the idea that ghosts aren't real 3nodding plus most of my views are logical based, it just seems to unlogical that everything in existance just came to be via chance...its just too perfect
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:11 am
I've been schooled in both Theology and Science and i still don't know. xd
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:21 am
EggaxSponge I've been schooled in both Theology and Science and i still don't know. xd ok, whats your view on them
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:55 am
Bronze L EggaxSponge I've been schooled in both Theology and Science and i still don't know. xd ok, whats your view on them The out of Africa Theory makes sence. But I also believe in god.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:23 am
That's fair enough Egga.
Although i'm not entirely sure what the "Out of Africa" theory is?
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:47 pm
syketheassai That's fair enough Egga. Although i'm not entirely sure what the "Out of Africa" theory is? basically the first humans came out of africa, evolution but with a destination for humans
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:49 pm
EggaxSponge Bronze L EggaxSponge I've been schooled in both Theology and Science and i still don't know. xd ok, whats your view on them The out of Africa Theory makes sence. But I also believe in god. mayby the garden of edin was in africa? who knows?
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:45 pm
2 things.
1) don't ever double post
2) That theory? the Garden of Eden if it did exist on earth is so-posed to be in Australia or something.
Goggly: If the world was made in 4500 BC with Just Adam and Eve.
then how on earth is there 6 million people on the planet now? It's just not a feasible population growth from 2 people in that time.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:26 am
syketheassai 2 things. 1) don't ever double post 2) That theory? the Garden of Eden if it did exist on earth is so-posed to be in Australia or something. Goggly: If the world was made in 4500 BC with Just Adam and Eve. then how on earth is there 6 million people on the planet now? It's just not a feasible population growth from 2 people in that time. 1)sorry 2)its never been said where it was located, and plus remember God set this whole thing up, its just too perfect not to be made by him, and if you think about it, life had to come from something
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:20 pm
syketheassai 2) That theory? the Garden of Eden if it did exist on earth is so-posed to be in Australia or something. Goggly: If the world was made in 4500 BC with Just Adam and Eve. then how on earth is there 6 million people on the planet now? It's just not a feasible population growth from 2 people in that time. I haven't heard the Austrailia thing. Remember, when things begin to populate exponentially.. Well it really is amazing how fast the population grows. The bible never says that Adam and Eve were the only 2 people made by god. ^_~ But theirs is the story told.
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