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 Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:17 am
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:00 pm
It's a very typical thread, Jazz. The whole ____ are people too arguement. Heard it too many times.
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:06 pm
lol
that's all i have to say.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:42 am
I have an issue with the very last line of that post, where the OP states that their friends are either agnostic or atheistic. Contrary to popular belief, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism is not a belief claim like atheism and theism are. It's a knowledge claim that can and often does exist along side belief claims.
Hence why we have "soft" theists and atheists.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:23 am
PirateEire I have an issue with the very last line of that post, where the OP states that their friends are either agnostic or atheistic. Contrary to popular belief, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism is not a belief claim like atheism and theism are. It's a knowledge claim that can and often does exist along side belief claims. Hence why we have "soft" theists and atheists. Agnosticism is not a believe, it is a term used to describe one who knows something is out there but doesn't know what to believe.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:35 am
RavenclawGreat PirateEire I have an issue with the very last line of that post, where the OP states that their friends are either agnostic or atheistic. Contrary to popular belief, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism is not a belief claim like atheism and theism are. It's a knowledge claim that can and often does exist along side belief claims. Hence why we have "soft" theists and atheists. Agnosticism is not a believe, it is a term used to describe one who knows something is out there but doesn't know what to believe. Incorrect. If you read what I wrote once again, you will find that I clearly stated that agnosticism is not a belief statement, and is indeed a knowledge statement (bolded). You misinterpret "knowing," however. In the context of agnosticism, it means that you make the claim that the existence of deities is unknowable. It does not, in any way, pertain to your beliefs.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:13 pm
PirateEire RavenclawGreat PirateEire I have an issue with the very last line of that post, where the OP states that their friends are either agnostic or atheistic. Contrary to popular belief, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism is not a belief claim like atheism and theism are. It's a knowledge claim that can and often does exist along side belief claims. Hence why we have "soft" theists and atheists. Agnosticism is not a believe, it is a term used to describe one who knows something is out there but doesn't know what to believe. Incorrect. If you read what I wrote once again, you will find that I clearly stated that agnosticism is not a belief statement, and is indeed a knowledge statement (bolded). You misinterpret "knowing," however. In the context of agnosticism, it means that you make the claim that the existence of deities is unknowable. It does not, in any way, pertain to your beliefs. But Pirate there is a hole. To have knowledge in a higher being you have to believe that indeed something is out there. Not just know about it....that doesn't even make sense.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:20 pm
RavenclawGreat PirateEire RavenclawGreat PirateEire I have an issue with the very last line of that post, where the OP states that their friends are either agnostic or atheistic. Contrary to popular belief, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism is not a belief claim like atheism and theism are. It's a knowledge claim that can and often does exist along side belief claims. Hence why we have "soft" theists and atheists. Agnosticism is not a believe, it is a term used to describe one who knows something is out there but doesn't know what to believe. Incorrect. If you read what I wrote once again, you will find that I clearly stated that agnosticism is not a belief statement, and is indeed a knowledge statement (bolded). You misinterpret "knowing," however. In the context of agnosticism, it means that you make the claim that the existence of deities is unknowable. It does not, in any way, pertain to your beliefs. But Pirate there is a hole. To have knowledge in a higher being you have to believe that indeed something is out there. Not just know about it....that doesn't even make sense. You don't need to necessarily believe in gods to have been introduced to the idea of the existence of gods. The claim is that gods are non-falsifiable. Whether you believe in gods or not, the claim can be made.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:59 pm
Pirate's right on this one. You can not prove that a god doesn't exist--agnosticism is just the statement that you realize there is no way to know whether there is or isn't a god.
BTW Pirate--I love the link to the RP In your sig. It made me snort some sprite. *haha*
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:22 am
Rowena Marion BTW Pirate--I love the link to the RP In your sig. It made me snort some sprite. *haha* It's only funny because you know you're safe. *cleans nails*
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