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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:40 pm
A thought has come to me, but as I do not believe that the ED is mature enough to discuss it intelligently, I decided to bring it here. My question is, simply:
Are there any morals which could be considered absolute? That is, are morals entirely subjective to the person or can there be any sort of overlying moral values that are not subject to people?
I'm not sure I expressed this clearly, so if you need to ask questions to clarify, ask away.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:10 pm
That's a toughie. To answer honestly I would have to stay that I'm not entirely sure how to address it. I think the real problem is that if there are any moral absolutes, how would we be able to discover that they were in fact absolute and not subject to people?
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:58 pm
There are many, many morals that can be considered absolute. Whether or not they can reasonably be considered valid is another story, though.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:48 pm
Though I'm probably nicer than you Mormon neighbors I still believe that moral relativism rules all.
That doesn't mean that I don't live my life by principles of honesty, transparency, integrity and fairness/justice, but it does mean that I don't think there is any such thing as an absolute truth.
Moral behavior exists to keep society strong, because we, as a species, work well with a structured society. Much better than without. However, if there was a moral absolute, an unwavering form of conduct, it could never be violated without massive outcry. Crimes of such terrible scale occur daily, many unpunished.
All morals are limited to the context of their immediate relevance, societal presence and the cultural climate. In short, sir, I would say "no" in reply to your question.
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:00 pm
I don't believe that morals are an inherant part of the universe, but are social constructs. As such, there is no universal absolute morality.
However, if we.. tweak... the definition a little, we could consider randomly slaughtering children to be absolutely immoral.
That is the real problem, though. That "absolute morals" only really cover immoral things. What is moral is always subjective, always.
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