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Sohei Xan No Kitsune

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:53 pm


Guns can be taken away easily its just a matter of not getting shot. I would think the bets martial arts for taking away a gun would be a modern karate class. Like kenpo karate, one that uses self defense techniques. Im not sure if MMA uses self defense techniques but if it dose that might be a good one to.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:39 pm


Sohei Xan No Kitsune
Guns can be taken away easily its just a matter of not getting shot. I would think the bets martial arts for taking away a gun would be a modern karate class. Like kenpo karate, one that uses self defense techniques. Im not sure if MMA uses self defense techniques but if it dose that might be a good one to.


Gun can be taken away ... assuming the person holding the gun is close to you ... say arms reach ... maybe leg reach ... anything beyond that ... BANG BANG ...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:13 am


afromma
Sohei Xan No Kitsune
Guns can be taken away easily its just a matter of not getting shot. I would think the bets martial arts for taking away a gun would be a modern karate class. Like kenpo karate, one that uses self defense techniques. Im not sure if MMA uses self defense techniques but if it dose that might be a good one to.


Gun can be taken away ... assuming the person holding the gun is close to you ... say arms reach ... maybe leg reach ... anything beyond that ... BANG BANG ...

That isn't strictly speaking correct. Krav maga teaches engagement ranges for guns, with the optimal range being, as you say, arm's reach, second optimal leg's reach, third optimal one step, and so on out to about ten feet. And the Spetsnaz are notorious for training specific sets of maneuvers to dodge gunfire until they're close enough to do all manner of unpleasant things to you. It is a great flaw to think that a gun between you and your opponent gives you overwhelming advantage. There is and advantage there, but a canny opponent who is aware of their surroundings can make a gunman's day all manner of unpleasant. If guns were a deciding factor, after all no military would bother to train their people in close combat.

MMA has some beautiful weapon disarmament techniques in its self-defensive forms. Most of these derive directly from techniques found in more traditional arts. A person who is trained to use MMA defensively is just as dangerous as a karateka or TKD player if you get your weapon too close. And these days, even boxing has ways of getting around knives and guns. I think the simplest, most effective technique (which is found in most styles but the boxing variety I saw was amusing) was to step out of the line of the gun, block the inside of the forearm, and simply smash the face of the gunman until they couldn't move anymore. At any rate, in summation you should never assume that a gun/bow/crossbow/throwing knife/frisbee-of-doom will make you invincible. Bullets move in a straight line and come in limited supply.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:09 pm


Sohei Xan No Kitsune
Guns can be taken away easily its just a matter of not getting shot. I would think the bets martial arts for taking away a gun would be a modern karate class. Like kenpo karate, one that uses self defense techniques. Im not sure if MMA uses self defense techniques but if it dose that might be a good one to.


Kenpo Karate?I'm a Ch'uan Fa "Kenpo" artist and there is nothing Karate about it really.Karate was merely put into the title in an attempt to broaden out the style,as Karate is very broad itself.In actuality,karate is a practically a watered down Kenpo.Just over time Karate expanded and was majorly adapted by the Japanese/Okinawin,at which karate was only the basics of Martial arts.

Ch'uan Fa: The Law of the Fist was also picked up in Japan.That's where the japanese adaption really plays in.Kempo is the Japanese adaption,Kenpo is the Japanese word for the original Chinese art.Although the whole Kenpo Karate thing kind of explains itself in a way.Ch'uan Fa/Kenpo: The law of the Fist Karate: China/Empty Hand.

Anyways no disrespect,I just see that and feel the need to ramble on about the specifics of my Style.Lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:29 pm


Kenpo karate is a modern martial art you may do "kenpo" but were not doing the same thing its just the fact that kenpo means open hand that makes it a common name of different martial arts.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:30 am


Sohei Xan No Kitsune
Kenpo karate is a modern martial art you may do "kenpo" but were not doing the same thing its just the fact that kenpo means open hand that makes it a common name of different martial arts.


Kenpo Doesn't mean open hand.Kenpo,or rather Ch'uan Fa means : The Law of the Fist.Karate means Empty hand,and originally meant China Hand.Kenpo isn't a common,broad name for martial arts,Karate is the term often used.So you're a tad mixed up.

Ch'uan Fa-Kenpo-The Law of the Fist
Karate-China Hand-Empty Hand
Karate came from Ch'uan Fa.It is the basics of which.
The Japanese adapted Karate,and it changed into Empty Hand from China hand.They also went a little more in depth with karate
The Japanese also adapted Ch'uan Fa,their term for it was Kempo.Kenpo is the Japanese term for the chinese style.Kenpo and Kempo are typically one in the same,but Kenpo stands for the Traditional Chinese Style and Kempo stands for the Japanese adaption.There are both notable differences and similarities between the two being as they each have their way of doing certain things.They are not exactly the same.

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