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 Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:59 pm
Fiiine, ignore my question about liberalism. *sulk* I woulda answered you 'n' everything.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:14 am
SoViEtTaNkT34 divineseraph Firstly, religion was created well before capitalism and capitalistic strife. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, unless it gets extremist. This goes with everything. Supporting the killing of people simply for a belief goes beyond stupidity. It goes to a level of idiocy that is far beyond any normal religious person and puts you at the exact same level, mentally, as the idiot taliban. Grow the ******** up, nobody cares that you didn't get your bike for Christmas, so now you're rebelling against religion with death threats. Fun fact the Puritans banned Christmas because the holiday was not Christian but pagan which goes up against US ideology. No one can escape from ideology and the Church has been withering away since the Bourgeois took over. Communism is the final end game for Religious institutions. See its a more classical culture but if you had a more individualistic mode such as South Korea which also being technological would have a Huge impact on the Family unit. You see, since the development of the (Western) Bourgeois School I.E. the State taking over the school from the Church, the church has been withering due to a gradual ideological shift. This is because the Church and many other religions have lost there political positions due to the government stripping its purpose. A government now institutionalizes ideology through the structure of the school. It does not matter what nation, each 1st world and many others use the School structure for an ideological apparatus. The overall issue or problem is the same as the bourgeois, when the reactionary religious ideology which is found throughout the world for example Iran, Russia, and most famous argument...Tibet. Each has or in Tibet's case had religious governments and the only reason why Tibet monks are being "oppressed" is because they just want their power back.. IE the State IE the ideological apparatus. This cannot and should not happen within the 1st stage of Socialist progression after the revolution, period. If the 2nd stage has no religious institution aka "Bourgeois Right" then the 1st stage of Socialist progression must deal with such a task. Therefore the elimination of Christianity and other countless escapist ideologies is needed within the 1st stage. This is because at such a point these ideologies/institutions will be used by reactionary elements of the Bourgeois ideology and Feudal ideology. Aaaaand.... So? What does the puritans petty beef with a holiday have to do with why it is right to kill all christians and other religious people simply for their thoughts against your ideal?
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:42 pm
divineseraph SoViEtTaNkT34 divineseraph Firstly, religion was created well before capitalism and capitalistic strife. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, unless it gets extremist. This goes with everything. Supporting the killing of people simply for a belief goes beyond stupidity. It goes to a level of idiocy that is far beyond any normal religious person and puts you at the exact same level, mentally, as the idiot taliban. Grow the ******** up, nobody cares that you didn't get your bike for Christmas, so now you're rebelling against religion with death threats. Fun fact the Puritans banned Christmas because the holiday was not Christian but pagan which goes up against US ideology. No one can escape from ideology and the Church has been withering away since the Bourgeois took over. Communism is the final end game for Religious institutions. You see, since the development of the (Western) Bourgeois School I.E. the State taking over the school from the Church, the church has been withering due to a gradual ideological shift. This is because the Church and many other religions have lost there political positions due to the government stripping its purpose. A government now institutionalizes ideology through the structure of the school. It does not matter what nation, each 1st world and many others use the School structure for an ideological apparatus. The overall issue or problem is the same as the bourgeois, when the reactionary religious ideology which is found throughout the world for example Iran, Russia, and most famous argument...Tibet. Each has or in Tibet's case had religious governments and the only reason why Tibet monks are being "oppressed" is because they just want their power back.. IE the State IE the ideological apparatus. This cannot and should not happen within the 1st stage of Socialist progression after the revolution, period. If the 2nd stage has no religious institution aka "Bourgeois Right" then the 1st stage of Socialist progression must deal with such a task. Therefore the elimination of Christianity and other countless escapist ideologies is needed within the 1st stage. This is because at such a point these ideologies/institutions will be used by reactionary elements of the Bourgeois ideology and Feudal ideology. Aaaaand.... So? What does the puritans petty beef with a holiday have to do with why it is right to kill all christians and other religious people simply for their thoughts against your ideal? It goes with your petty religious holiday comment. Materialism over idealism, if one believes in a idealistic "better place" then he or she should go there instead of doing nothing but petty wishing and/or whining.
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:18 am
Well it doesn't matter, for there is only one diety we pledge allegiance to and that is the party, and above the party stands our fearless emperor....  LONG LIVE OUR LORD AND SAVIOR LONG LIVE COMRADE STALIN!
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:08 am
Comrade Rob Well it doesn't matter, for there is only one diety we pledge allegiance to and that is the party, and above the party stands our fearless emperor.... LONG LIVE OUR LORD AND SAVIOR LONG LIVE COMRADE STALIN!
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:47 am
Well, with that suit, he's quite a bit more threatening.
LONG LIVE STALIN INDEED!
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:01 pm
As great as it sounds, It's terrible.
Like it was mentioned before, it creates martyrs and a negative opinion of Communism.
It is extremely counter productive.. and insane.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:47 pm
SoViEtTaNkT34 divineseraph SoViEtTaNkT34 divineseraph Firstly, religion was created well before capitalism and capitalistic strife. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, unless it gets extremist. This goes with everything. Supporting the killing of people simply for a belief goes beyond stupidity. It goes to a level of idiocy that is far beyond any normal religious person and puts you at the exact same level, mentally, as the idiot taliban. Grow the ******** up, nobody cares that you didn't get your bike for Christmas, so now you're rebelling against religion with death threats. Fun fact the Puritans banned Christmas because the holiday was not Christian but pagan which goes up against US ideology. No one can escape from ideology and the Church has been withering away since the Bourgeois took over. Communism is the final end game for Religious institutions. You see, since the development of the (Western) Bourgeois School I.E. the State taking over the school from the Church, the church has been withering due to a gradual ideological shift. This is because the Church and many other religions have lost there political positions due to the government stripping its purpose. A government now institutionalizes ideology through the structure of the school. It does not matter what nation, each 1st world and many others use the School structure for an ideological apparatus. The overall issue or problem is the same as the bourgeois, when the reactionary religious ideology which is found throughout the world for example Iran, Russia, and most famous argument...Tibet. Each has or in Tibet's case had religious governments and the only reason why Tibet monks are being "oppressed" is because they just want their power back.. IE the State IE the ideological apparatus. This cannot and should not happen within the 1st stage of Socialist progression after the revolution, period. If the 2nd stage has no religious institution aka "Bourgeois Right" then the 1st stage of Socialist progression must deal with such a task. Therefore the elimination of Christianity and other countless escapist ideologies is needed within the 1st stage. This is because at such a point these ideologies/institutions will be used by reactionary elements of the Bourgeois ideology and Feudal ideology. Aaaaand.... So? What does the puritans petty beef with a holiday have to do with why it is right to kill all christians and other religious people simply for their thoughts against your ideal? It goes with your petty religious holiday comment. Materialism over idealism, if one believes in a idealistic "better place" then he or she should go there instead of doing nothing but petty wishing and/or whining. What? Are you retarded? Did you drink the stuff under the sink when you were a kid?
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:10 pm
divineseraph SoViEtTaNkT34 It goes with your petty religious holiday comment. Materialism over idealism, if one believes in a idealistic "better place" then he or she should go there instead of doing nothing but petty wishing and/or whining. What? Are you retarded? Did you drink the stuff under the sink when you were a kid? Please present political points along with your petty insults please.
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:42 am
I think religious supression is one of the reasons the great CCCP failed.
Executions are also a bad idea. The communist party in N.K. is simply following the repressive, agressive, fear-inducing and scheming model that made the USSR crumble upon it's very foundations. Racism and anti-seminism only breeds hate and never support.
I have yet to see a socialist regime that actually has honest goals towards communism. Cuba initially seemed close, but I have yet to see any honest progress on that side.
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:56 am
almisami I think religious supression is one of the reasons the great CCCP failed. Executions are also a bad idea. The communist party in N.K. is simply following the repressive, agressive, fear-inducing and scheming model that made the USSR crumble upon it's very foundations. Racism and anti-seminism only breeds hate and never support. I have yet to see a socialist regime that actually has honest goals towards communism. Cuba initially seemed close, but I have yet to see any honest progress on that side. Religious supression had nothing to do with the collapse of the CCCP. Khrushchev's economic policies and potato farmer Gorbachev's perestroika and glasnost were responsible.
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:41 am
SoViEtTaNkT34 almisami I think religious supression is one of the reasons the great CCCP failed. Executions are also a bad idea. The communist party in N.K. is simply following the repressive, agressive, fear-inducing and scheming model that made the USSR crumble upon it's very foundations. Racism and anti-seminism only breeds hate and never support. I have yet to see a socialist regime that actually has honest goals towards communism. Cuba initially seemed close, but I have yet to see any honest progress on that side. Religious supression had nothing to do with the collapse of the CCCP. Khrushchev's economic policies and potato farmer Gorbachev's perestroika and glasnost were responsible. There were also high military expenditures and a bunch of nationalists gaining power in the assemblies of the Soviet Union's constituent republics, but yeah it was mostly Gorbachev.
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