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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:14 pm
RicFule Platinum_Behemoth252 my previous "Slayer killed Asmodean" theory is incorrect. Okay as i wuz re-reading through the series i noticed that when it describes Asmodean once hes dead he is charred as if burned....the only thing distinguishable on him is the harp case. so unless Slayer somehow gained the power to burn ppl he couldnt be him. we know it couldnt of been a man so it had to be a woman channeler that knew how to travel. well at that point the only women that knew how to channel then were the forsaken. Lanfear is dead, Mesaana is in the WT, Grendeal in AD, and Semirhage is with the Seanchan *i think*. Well Mesaana doesnt care about Asy we can be pretty shure of that. Lanfear couldnt kill him if she wanted to cause she died and hadnt been reborn yet as Cydane. Semirhage doesnt like to outright kill ppl, she enjoys torturing them. so Grendeal is the only logical choice...unless there is some dreadlord or something which i highly doubt. Grendael had some motivation to! Her Semy, Mesy, Demy, and Sammy all were in a semi-alliance. they all wanted to take on Rand together. well with Asy teaching him he may learn things they dont want him to that couldnt endanger them. we all know that the forsaken arent the bravest ppl in the world. so i think that with Mesaana not being cooperative and Semy missing meetings Grendael may have been pressured into killing Asy seein as she is the only one with a chance of getting close to Asy without he nocicing right away. well there is my new idea. i havent gone back and read this thread to see who supports the Grendael theory but i think someone said that they thought Grendael did it. dont know the details why though. these are the ones i have come to. tell me wut you think. But! When Asmodean was charred and only recognized by the harp case, RAHVIN had killed him. That had happened when they Travelled to Camelyn, and were auto-attacked. After Rahvin was balefired out of existence, Asmodean was back among the land of the living.hold on i will read again real quick.....your right that wuz when he got hit....so my original Slayer theory is still up in the air it hasnt been grounded yet. YAY!
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:43 am
Platinum_Behemoth252 RicFule Platinum_Behemoth252 my previous "Slayer killed Asmodean" theory is incorrect. Okay as i wuz re-reading through the series i noticed that when it describes Asmodean once hes dead he is charred as if burned....the only thing distinguishable on him is the harp case. so unless Slayer somehow gained the power to burn ppl he couldnt be him. we know it couldnt of been a man so it had to be a woman channeler that knew how to travel. well at that point the only women that knew how to channel then were the forsaken. Lanfear is dead, Mesaana is in the WT, Grendeal in AD, and Semirhage is with the Seanchan *i think*. Well Mesaana doesnt care about Asy we can be pretty shure of that. Lanfear couldnt kill him if she wanted to cause she died and hadnt been reborn yet as Cydane. Semirhage doesnt like to outright kill ppl, she enjoys torturing them. so Grendeal is the only logical choice...unless there is some dreadlord or something which i highly doubt. Grendael had some motivation to! Her Semy, Mesy, Demy, and Sammy all were in a semi-alliance. they all wanted to take on Rand together. well with Asy teaching him he may learn things they dont want him to that couldnt endanger them. we all know that the forsaken arent the bravest ppl in the world. so i think that with Mesaana not being cooperative and Semy missing meetings Grendael may have been pressured into killing Asy seein as she is the only one with a chance of getting close to Asy without he nocicing right away. well there is my new idea. i havent gone back and read this thread to see who supports the Grendael theory but i think someone said that they thought Grendael did it. dont know the details why though. these are the ones i have come to. tell me wut you think. But! When Asmodean was charred and only recognized by the harp case, RAHVIN had killed him. That had happened when they Travelled to Camelyn, and were auto-attacked. After Rahvin was balefired out of existence, Asmodean was back among the land of the living.hold on i will read again real quick.....your right that wuz when he got hit....so my original Slayer theory is still up in the air it hasnt been grounded yet. YAY! Asmodean's last description was his voice hanging in the air. I doubt Slayer could do that with his knife...
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:35 am
saighan Asmodean's last description was his voice hanging in the air. I doubt Slayer could do that with his knife... well think about echos/and traveling voices.....if i scream as someone shoots me in the head you could say that my scream or the gunshot hung in the air as death took me. i think thats wut RJ ment by that, he wuz dead before the sound of his scream ended. Slayer could kill that fast.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:03 pm
Platinum_Behemoth252 saighan Asmodean's last description was his voice hanging in the air. I doubt Slayer could do that with his knife... well think about echos/and traveling voices.....if i scream as someone shoots me in the head you could say that my scream or the gunshot hung in the air as death took me. i think thats wut RJ ment by that, he wuz dead before the sound of his scream ended. Slayer could kill that fast. But hanging in the air denotes that it's the only sound heard, his body'd have to make a thump sound. And Slayer kills with a poisoned knife. His scream would stop abruptly. You only get people still screaming bloody disbelief as they die in movies ^__^
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:33 pm
saighan But hanging in the air denotes that it's the only sound heard, his body'd have to make a thump sound. And Slayer kills with a poisoned knife. His scream would stop abruptly. You only get people still screaming bloody disbelief as they die in movies ^__^ or in fantasy novels...
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:16 pm
Tedronai saighan But hanging in the air denotes that it's the only sound heard, his body'd have to make a thump sound. And Slayer kills with a poisoned knife. His scream would stop abruptly. You only get people still screaming bloody disbelief as they die in movies ^__^ or in fantasy novels... ...good point! lol
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:21 am
Yea im going to keep my Slayer theory as plausible, but i dont think there is enough evidence to disprove the slayer or grendael theory. Of course im one of those ppl that if i didnt already know the sky wuz blue you would have to show me 3 pieces of evidence to prove it. ^_^
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:50 am
Aint that the truth.
Hey, just thinking out loud, but what if in some way Galad was actually a Darkfriend or being directly by a Darkfriend?
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:44 pm
Miroku2235 Aint that the truth. Hey, just thinking out loud, but what if in some way Galad was actually a Darkfriend or being directly by a Darkfriend? Well, we know that he's NOT a Darkfriend himself. Because as Elayne has said MULTIPLE time, "Galad does what is right." And being a Darkfriend would be as wrong as you can possibly be.
Now, as for the being directed by one? Who? {We know that there ARE DF Children of the Light. Due to the fact that when Carridin was alive, his "Handler" mentioned that. Don't remember the exact line, though.}
However? I personally don't think he is being directed by one.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:57 pm
I have a theory about something that happened in the past. And it's probably REALLY wrong.
But does anyone else think that Thom had something to do with Taringail's "Hunting accident"? Maybe not causing it himself, but getting someone to do it? Because Taringail was planning to be Andor's first king, according to Moiraine. And we know Thom was Morgase's lover after Taringail's death, and the fact that Thom is an expert at ferreting out hidden information.
So, he could have learned of Taringail's plans and offed him to keep the throne in Morgase's hands.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:16 pm
Galad is not a DF....nor is he being led in anyway by a DF...none are currently in power in the Children. Unless you think Asunawa is one....but i for one think he is too zealous for a DF.....yes i said it...ppl exist that are too zealous for DF circles.... on the Thom offing Taringail i think that it is actually quite plausible. Think Thom has never balked at having to kill someone when the need arised. and if he wuz involved with a would be queen then it is plausible that he would take out Taringail...wait....no not possible He met her after Taringail died i though...unless he wuz court-bard during Taringails life.....very very sketchy.....im not shure of this myself....
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:21 pm
Platinum_Behemoth252 Galad is not a DF....nor is he being led in anyway by a DF...none are currently in power in the Children. Unless you think Asunawa is one....but i for one think he is too zealous for a DF.....yes i said it...ppl exist that are too zealous for DF circles.... on the Thom offing Taringail i think that it is actually quite plausible. Think Thom has never balked at having to kill someone when the need arised. and if he wuz involved with a would be queen then it is plausible that he would take out Taringail...wait....no not possible He met her after Taringail died i though...unless he wuz court-bard during Taringails life.....very very sketchy.....im not shure of this myself.... I think Thom had to have been the Court Bard during that time. Otherwise, why would Moiraine mention that it was a good thing Morgase never realized that Taringail had intentions to be the first Andorian King when she forced Thom to go to Tanchico with Elayne and Nynaeve?
Plus, there are the people speculating that Elayne was really Thom's daughter. Even though, I don't think that myself.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:43 pm
RicFule Platinum_Behemoth252 Galad is not a DF....nor is he being led in anyway by a DF...none are currently in power in the Children. Unless you think Asunawa is one....but i for one think he is too zealous for a DF.....yes i said it...ppl exist that are too zealous for DF circles.... on the Thom offing Taringail i think that it is actually quite plausible. Think Thom has never balked at having to kill someone when the need arised. and if he wuz involved with a would be queen then it is plausible that he would take out Taringail...wait....no not possible He met her after Taringail died i though...unless he wuz court-bard during Taringails life.....very very sketchy.....im not shure of this myself.... I think Thom had to have been the Court Bard during that time. Otherwise, why would Moiraine mention that it was a good thing Morgase never realized that Taringail had intentions to be the first Andorian King when she forced Thom to go to Tanchico with Elayne and Nynaeve?
Plus, there are the people speculating that Elayne was really Thom's daughter. Even though, I don't think that myself.Thom offing Taringail is quite plausible....but the thing about Elayne being Thom's....i doubt that....he wuz Morgases lover and no more....
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:55 pm
Platinum_Behemoth252 RicFule Platinum_Behemoth252 Galad is not a DF....nor is he being led in anyway by a DF...none are currently in power in the Children. Unless you think Asunawa is one....but i for one think he is too zealous for a DF.....yes i said it...ppl exist that are too zealous for DF circles.... on the Thom offing Taringail i think that it is actually quite plausible. Think Thom has never balked at having to kill someone when the need arised. and if he wuz involved with a would be queen then it is plausible that he would take out Taringail...wait....no not possible He met her after Taringail died i though...unless he wuz court-bard during Taringails life.....very very sketchy.....im not shure of this myself.... I think Thom had to have been the Court Bard during that time. Otherwise, why would Moiraine mention that it was a good thing Morgase never realized that Taringail had intentions to be the first Andorian King when she forced Thom to go to Tanchico with Elayne and Nynaeve?
Plus, there are the people speculating that Elayne was really Thom's daughter. Even though, I don't think that myself.Thom offing Taringail is quite plausible....but the thing about Elayne being Thom's....i doubt that....he wuz Morgases lover and no more.... Yeah. Because Thom only became Morgase's lover after the birth of Gawyn and Elayne. And Taringail's death.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:45 am
RicFule Platinum_Behemoth252 RicFule Platinum_Behemoth252 Galad is not a DF....nor is he being led in anyway by a DF...none are currently in power in the Children. Unless you think Asunawa is one....but i for one think he is too zealous for a DF.....yes i said it...ppl exist that are too zealous for DF circles.... on the Thom offing Taringail i think that it is actually quite plausible. Think Thom has never balked at having to kill someone when the need arised. and if he wuz involved with a would be queen then it is plausible that he would take out Taringail...wait....no not possible He met her after Taringail died i though...unless he wuz court-bard during Taringails life.....very very sketchy.....im not shure of this myself.... I think Thom had to have been the Court Bard during that time. Otherwise, why would Moiraine mention that it was a good thing Morgase never realized that Taringail had intentions to be the first Andorian King when she forced Thom to go to Tanchico with Elayne and Nynaeve?
Plus, there are the people speculating that Elayne was really Thom's daughter. Even though, I don't think that myself.Thom offing Taringail is quite plausible....but the thing about Elayne being Thom's....i doubt that....he wuz Morgases lover and no more.... Yeah. Because Thom only became Morgase's lover after the birth of Gawyn and Elayne. And Taringail's death.Yea there is no way that Thom is Elayne daddy........jst no chance.....
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