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 Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:29 am
Phanari Someoneiknow Phanari Someoneiknow Phanari Like I said, it's only in Bibles as accurate as the NASB, but if you read the verse itself, the context says that without having to read what's in the lil ()s. What book are you even talking about? And what the heck is the NASB? And who told you it was the be all end all of Bibles? Last I heard the NIV was supposed to be the MOST correct version from Biblical scholars. I only read the KJV, because not so much is taken out from it, and you still get the picture regardless of how Americanized you make the Bible. I'm talking about the book where all Christians get all of God's answers from. You know..........the BIBLE. NASB = New American Standard Bible. It's the most accurate English translation. Not as accurate as the 77 NASB, but they're in the same family. NIV, is the easiest for the average Joe to understand because it's written for a fourth grader to get. Oh, the Bible, NOW THE BOOK, NOT THE COMPILATION OF BOOKS, you know, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Acts and the Romans..... etc.? Those are books! Good for NASB? Could care less Oh and NIV, hurr hurr de hurr fourth grader. I really could care less, I was just stating from what I have read, so unless you go against Biblical scholars, which you usually make quite a show of, then really I am not going to care any more or less. If you don't care much, then why do you reply like you do? By the way: Mark. I was telling you what I didn't care about, which is irrelevant hogwash that you put into the thread. What I did care about is what exactly you were trying to prove.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:23 pm
Someoneiknow Phanari Someoneiknow Phanari Someoneiknow Phanari Like I said, it's only in Bibles as accurate as the NASB, but if you read the verse itself, the context says that without having to read what's in the lil ()s. What book are you even talking about? And what the heck is the NASB? And who told you it was the be all end all of Bibles? Last I heard the NIV was supposed to be the MOST correct version from Biblical scholars. I only read the KJV, because not so much is taken out from it, and you still get the picture regardless of how Americanized you make the Bible. I'm talking about the book where all Christians get all of God's answers from. You know..........the BIBLE. NASB = New American Standard Bible. It's the most accurate English translation. Not as accurate as the 77 NASB, but they're in the same family. NIV, is the easiest for the average Joe to understand because it's written for a fourth grader to get. Oh, the Bible, NOW THE BOOK, NOT THE COMPILATION OF BOOKS, you know, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Acts and the Romans..... etc.? Those are books! Good for NASB? Could care less Oh and NIV, hurr hurr de hurr fourth grader. I really could care less, I was just stating from what I have read, so unless you go against Biblical scholars, which you usually make quite a show of, then really I am not going to care any more or less. If you don't care much, then why do you reply like you do? By the way: Mark. I was telling you what I didn't care about, which is irrelevant hogwash that you put into the thread. What I did care about is what exactly you were trying to prove. Stop changing the subject when it suits your business and stick to the subject at hand. While, at the same time, staying on the topics being discussed.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:31 pm
Phanari Someoneiknow Phanari Someoneiknow Phanari I'm talking about the book where all Christians get all of God's answers from. You know..........the BIBLE. NASB = New American Standard Bible. It's the most accurate English translation. Not as accurate as the 77 NASB, but they're in the same family. NIV, is the easiest for the average Joe to understand because it's written for a fourth grader to get. Oh, the Bible, NOW THE BOOK, NOT THE COMPILATION OF BOOKS, you know, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Acts and the Romans..... etc.? Those are books! Good for NASB? Could care less Oh and NIV, hurr hurr de hurr fourth grader. I really could care less, I was just stating from what I have read, so unless you go against Biblical scholars, which you usually make quite a show of, then really I am not going to care any more or less. If you don't care much, then why do you reply like you do? By the way: Mark. I was telling you what I didn't care about, which is irrelevant hogwash that you put into the thread. What I did care about is what exactly you were trying to prove. Stop changing the subject when it suits your business and stick to the subject at hand. While, at the same time, staying on the topics being discussed. Way to not make any sense at all. I'm just responding to the things you state. It's hard to keep up sometimes, considering I feel like I have to respond to every syllable so that I can maybe clear some personal confusion by many of the remarks you say.
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:33 am
Someoneiknow Phanari Someoneiknow Phanari Someoneiknow Phanari I'm talking about the book where all Christians get all of God's answers from. You know..........the BIBLE. NASB = New American Standard Bible. It's the most accurate English translation. Not as accurate as the 77 NASB, but they're in the same family. NIV, is the easiest for the average Joe to understand because it's written for a fourth grader to get. Oh, the Bible, NOW THE BOOK, NOT THE COMPILATION OF BOOKS, you know, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Acts and the Romans..... etc.? Those are books! Good for NASB? Could care less Oh and NIV, hurr hurr de hurr fourth grader. I really could care less, I was just stating from what I have read, so unless you go against Biblical scholars, which you usually make quite a show of, then really I am not going to care any more or less. If you don't care much, then why do you reply like you do? By the way: Mark. I was telling you what I didn't care about, which is irrelevant hogwash that you put into the thread. What I did care about is what exactly you were trying to prove. Stop changing the subject when it suits your business and stick to the subject at hand. While, at the same time, staying on the topics being discussed. Way to not make any sense at all. I'm just responding to the things you state. It's hard to keep up sometimes, considering I feel like I have to respond to every syllable so that I can maybe clear some personal confusion by many of the remarks you say. There you go again, not talking in the present subject at hand and trying to justify it.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:37 pm
God gave us control of all the creatures of the Earth! biggrin Therefore, we are allowed to eat the healthy meats of animals! biggrin
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:18 pm
mazuac God gave us control of all the creatures of the Earth! biggrin Therefore, we are allowed to eat the healthy meats of animals! biggrin
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:45 am
mazuac God gave us control of all the creatures of the Earth! biggrin Therefore, we are allowed to eat the healthy meats of animals! biggrin True. I don't though, not after I saw that old twilight zone episode where the aliens came to earth to get humans to cook and eat eek
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:44 pm
Semiremis mazuac God gave us control of all the creatures of the Earth! biggrin Therefore, we are allowed to eat the healthy meats of animals! biggrin True. I don't though, not after I saw that old twilight zone episode where the aliens came to earth to get humans to cook and eat eek Odd and spooky. Good thing that's fiction.
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:53 pm
Shadows-shine Semiremis mazuac God gave us control of all the creatures of the Earth! biggrin Therefore, we are allowed to eat the healthy meats of animals! biggrin True. I don't though, not after I saw that old twilight zone episode where the aliens came to earth to get humans to cook and eat eek Odd and spooky. Good thing that's fiction. lol, yeah it really freaked me out when I was younger and it sort of makes sense.
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:25 pm
Welcome anyone who is weak in faith, but not for disputes over opinions. One person believes that one may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. The one who eats must not despise the one who abstains, and the one who abstains must not pass judgment on the one who eats; for God has welcomed him.
Romans 14:1-3
Bible's pretty clear.
Also, first post in many months.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:29 pm
In my opinion I think we can definatly eat meat, God didn't put animals on the planet just to be there did he? We need protein to survive. Yes we can get protein from plants and beans and stuff like that but that would technically be the same as killing an animal. Plants are living organisms too. So we're just supposed to eat nothing and die? No. God did not put us here so we could die of starvation and put random animals here too to do nothing. He put us all here so we could thrive and prosper.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:24 am
Someoneiknow Just a question that I thought up, should we not ever eat animals? Should we refrain from ever receiving that protein and only eat of plants and things that we can grow? Would eating plants be just as harmful, being as how a plant is also a living thing? I enjoy meat. I don't eat it often, but I like to have a good steak or some chicken a couple times a week. I never really have seen a problem with eating meat, for God did put them on the earth for sustinance. What are your thoughts? God gave us animals for beauty, as well as a necessitie for human beings. What did Adam and Eve eat there......probably food from animals. xd
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:49 am
ForeverViet Someoneiknow Just a question that I thought up, should we not ever eat animals? Should we refrain from ever receiving that protein and only eat of plants and things that we can grow? Would eating plants be just as harmful, being as how a plant is also a living thing? I enjoy meat. I don't eat it often, but I like to have a good steak or some chicken a couple times a week. I never really have seen a problem with eating meat, for God did put them on the earth for sustinance. What are your thoughts? God gave us animals for beauty, as well as a necessitie for human beings. What did Adam and Eve eat there......probably food from animals. xd Quote: Genesis 9:3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. Now notice God says "just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything". This is proof that before this point, people were only eating fruits and vegetables. At any rate, at this point God allowed man to eat meat, which opens up the argument that abstaining from meat is a subconscious form of questioning God's mercy. This is not true at all. In fact, vegetarians who believe in the bible are merely preparing themselves for heaven. When the kingdom of heaven is established, all beings will become herbivores. Some might argue that we will not need to eat in heaven, but the bible teaches that even in heaven, beings must eat. For example, in Genesis 19:1-3, angels from heaven ate a meal made of bread. So in heaven, beings will continue to eat. The prophet Isaiah gave many descriptions of this kingdom, and all his visions point to all beings being vegetarian. If all beings in heaven are going to be herbivores, then it would be safe to say that vegetarians living today are merely more prepared for that time. Isaiah chapter 11 gives a lengthy description of the peaceful kingdom, and the 65th chapter has a particular verse that strongly supports the idea of a kingdom filled with nothing but herbivores.... The first and only point at which God gives Mankind permission to eat meat is after the Flood when all vegetation has been destroyed. Even then, God gives very lengthy regulations to ensure that the animal is slaughtered painlessly... Thus why I believe eating meat is okay, but I stand so firmly against factory farming, and why I myself am a vegan. Animals are living souls with the same breath of life as was given to humans when God created us (read the original Hebrew account of Genesis, the words for "beast" and "living soul" are one in the same). There also are no actual accounts of Jesus eating fish, "fish" actually translates as "fish weed". Just because we have "dominion" over them does not mean we have the right to abuse them, no more than a husband who has dominion over his wife has the right to abuse her. "A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel" (Proverbs 12:10) http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=212
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:07 pm
Angel of the End ForeverViet Someoneiknow Just a question that I thought up, should we not ever eat animals? Should we refrain from ever receiving that protein and only eat of plants and things that we can grow? Would eating plants be just as harmful, being as how a plant is also a living thing? I enjoy meat. I don't eat it often, but I like to have a good steak or some chicken a couple times a week. I never really have seen a problem with eating meat, for God did put them on the earth for sustinance. What are your thoughts? God gave us animals for beauty, as well as a necessitie for human beings. What did Adam and Eve eat there......probably food from animals. xd Quote: Genesis 9:3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. Now notice God says "just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything". This is proof that before this point, people were only eating fruits and vegetables. At any rate, at this point God allowed man to eat meat, which opens up the argument that abstaining from meat is a subconscious form of questioning God's mercy. This is not true at all. In fact, vegetarians who believe in the bible are merely preparing themselves for heaven. When the kingdom of heaven is established, all beings will become herbivores. Some might argue that we will not need to eat in heaven, but the bible teaches that even in heaven, beings must eat. For example, in Genesis 19:1-3, angels from heaven ate a meal made of bread. So in heaven, beings will continue to eat. The prophet Isaiah gave many descriptions of this kingdom, and all his visions point to all beings being vegetarian. If all beings in heaven are going to be herbivores, then it would be safe to say that vegetarians living today are merely more prepared for that time. Isaiah chapter 11 gives a lengthy description of the peaceful kingdom, and the 65th chapter has a particular verse that strongly supports the idea of a kingdom filled with nothing but herbivores.... The first and only point at which God gives Mankind permission to eat meat is after the Flood when all vegetation has been destroyed. Even then, God gives very lengthy regulations to ensure that the animal is slaughtered painlessly... Thus why I believe eating meat is okay, but I stand so firmly against factory farming, and why I myself am a vegan. Animals are living souls with the same breath of life as was given to humans when God created us (read the original Hebrew account of Genesis, the words for "beast" and "living soul" are one in the same). There also are no actual accounts of Jesus eating fish, "fish" actually translates as "fish weed". Just because we have "dominion" over them does not mean we have the right to abuse them, no more than a husband who has dominion over his wife has the right to abuse her. "A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel" (Proverbs 12:10) ]http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=212Wow! Good finding there preacher! May God Bless You!
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