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CrazyPokeMaster

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:35 pm


I agree with a lot of these things said. I still believe though, that Kurama and Youko are two different beings sharing one body, though. It's more fun to think about him like that. At least, in my own mind because I love trying to depict the two of them. It's so much easier to think of them as two different beings.

In truth, Youko Kurama and Kurama/Shuichi Minamino seems to be two different beings, personality-wise. Here is what I think of the two of them:

Kurama/Shuichi: The one that is always there, never fading from what he believes is true, always calm and strives to do what he can to keep his friends and loved ones from the hands of another powerful being. He tries his hardest to keep himself out of the same amount of danger as well, using as much of his energy possible and doing his best in the meantime. He calculates his best moves against his opponents and will normally come out on top when it concerns the safety of the others. He's the peace keeper of the whole team, keeping flaring attitudes to a minimum and death out of their minds. He carries a lot on his shoulders, even when it comes to the team and always knows what to say when it comes to calming others and keeping them from killing one another. His voice alone, seems to do the trick seeing as one has to be quiet to even hear him. When it comes to all of this put together, one can call him a true ladies man considering he will always be there, no matter how poorly things turn out to be. He is just someone that anyone can count on, in spirit or alive.

Youko Kurama: A ruthless killer (sorry but it's true) who strives to gain what he wants in any way he knows how. Intelligence and curiousity helps him in this area a lot. Youko is, in truth, one who likes having sex, rough or otherwise, but he's a fox. Foxes are horny. That is one trait they all share no matter where they are. Youko doesn't just get what he needs, how else did he become the Legendary Bandit? He stole what he wanted and stole from the place with the best technology available. What is seen from this? He loves a challenge and will do what he can to conqure it. He, also, has the soft spot for his friends. He felt terrible after Kuronue's death, despite the fact that he left to save his own skin but who wouldn't if you were being chased and your friend was struck down egging you on to leave when you had just used quite a bit of your power to get through to the artifact you wanted. Youko wanted to help Kuronue, one could tell by his hesitation before actually leaving and the fact that he told Kuronue to not go back for his pendant, to merely leave it. Kuronue didn't listen, therefore he may have gotten himself killed or in another situation where he would have been killed anyway.

There's my two-sense, like it or not.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:42 pm


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(Trust me. That last comment on Youko most of us are thinking about right now. ^^)
yup blaugh

4laugh I knew you'd understand. I wonder if he's a pervert when he's not 'on camera'... 4laugh

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:22 am


kuramaskitsune15
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(Trust me. That last comment on Youko most of us are thinking about right now. ^^)
yup blaugh

4laugh I knew you'd understand. I wonder if he's a pervert when he's not 'on camera'... 4laugh


I think yes, but I will like to see it "on camera" xd xd xd
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:01 pm


My thoughts

Youko Kurama:

I think he's Kurama's truer self.. When he's in Human form he usually seems to be suppressing his anger and Youko Kurama just doesn't.. He's himself.. He's the person who does what he wants.. Where as Shuuichi is usually suppressing his anger.
I don't really see where most people get this thing about him wanting sex or whatever. A lot of the mythology about kitsune are forgotten in manga and only brought back up in fan manga (doujinshi.). In Yuu Yuu Hakusho, where do they mention Inari, Inari zushi, Shape shifting or anything else like that?
I read this in : http://academia.issendai.com/fox-japanese.shtml (Now dead and can only be read as an archive at archive.org. )

Kitsune in anime and manga represent playfulness and deceit. They have lost all of their old religious overtones—no striving for enlightenment, no preying on immoral mortals, no sexual parasitism.

And very little sexual allure, strange to say. Kitsune characters may be attractive, even seductive, but they are attractive or seductive because of their unique personalities, not because they are kitsune. Fans often find this unsatisfying, and rectify the problem by re-injecting folkloric kitsune qualities into anime and manga characters in fan art, fan fiction, and fan manga (doujinshi). For a vivid example, read English-language fan fiction and Japanese doujinshi about Kurama of Yuu Yuu Hakusho.
Shuuichi:

He's more of the Fake form of Kurama because he's usually suppressing his anger since he cares what other people around him think of him.

That's all.

Bokusenou


KeesaRei

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:37 am


although I do agree that Youko Kurama is a bad a** and he is, I wouldn't mind having the plant ability myself, it would make my life easier for me when dealing with those who hurt me or my family...

As so Suichi (shuichi) Minamino again, I agree with the look of shock and probably horror on Shiroi's face when her son is reading beyond his little 5 yr old mind level. He'd probably have a book like "Chicken Soup for the Botanist Soul" or something to that effect.

Either way he's a cutie! ^^
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:48 pm


My thought on Yoko Kurama personality.... I can think of many idea as to who is Yoko Kurama

(1)
Many people see Yoko Kurama as a seducive kitsune but was it really proven in the anime? Yes, it's a fact that fox are consider as cunning and seducive base on many chinese/korean/japanese folklore but I have never seen Yoko Kurama act sexual. I may be wrong if Yoko Kurama is sexual since I have never read the manga book and instead watch the anime.

(2)Haha,my friend and I made this theory up rofl

-Many people are debating wether or not Kurama have one soul or two souls. Because of his changing attitude, many people are confuse.

-He may be just one soul who life was changed because of his mother. After experice the love of his mother during the incident, he may have dedicated his life to his mother and became much nicer person.

-He may have two soul who is combine with a human soul. Before Yoko Kurama enter Shiori womb, there was a unborn baby. Every life have a soul including the unborn baby. When Yoko Kurama enter Shiori womb, it either kick the poor unborn baby or fused with the unborn soul.

(3)
Many fan picture Yoko as a fun, mischeivios or sexual person. But is it true? How can any person, who was born in Makai, ever have a chance to be an idea that a fan girl would may think. He is ruthless and a cold demon. Is he evil? I don't think so because in my point of view, he had a relationship with all his comrade. Example with Yomi, Kurama may had mercy on him even though Yomi was dispose by Kurama. Kurama could of killed/left Yomi the first time when he disobey him. This could be a sign that He had mercy on Yomi and could think that Kurama gave Yomi a test (During when Yomi left the 2nd time to the castle) wether he is a loyal comrade or a fool. Also with Kuronue, we could image Kurama heart broken when Kuronue died.

I could think more but don't feel like typing anymore. Finger cramp. >.>

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:22 pm


Lilbang
My thought on Yoko Kurama personality.... I can think of many idea as to who is Yoko Kurama

(1)
Many people see Yoko Kurama as a seducive kitsune but was it really proven in the anime? Yes, it's a fact that fox are consider as cunning and seducive base on many chinese/korean/japanese folklore but I have never seen Yoko Kurama act sexual. I may be wrong if Yoko Kurama is sexual since I have never read the manga book and instead watch the anime.

(2)Haha,my friend and I made this theory up rofl

-Many people are debating wether or not Kurama have one soul or two souls. Because of his changing attitude, many people are confuse.

-He may be just one soul who life was changed because of his mother. After experice the love of his mother during the incident, he may have dedicated his life to his mother and became much nicer person.

-He may have two soul who is combine with a human soul. Before Yoko Kurama enter Shiori womb, there was a unborn baby. Every life have a soul including the unborn baby. When Yoko Kurama enter Shiori womb, it either kick the poor unborn baby or fused with the unborn soul.

(3)
Many fan picture Yoko as a fun, mischeivios or sexual person. But is it true? How can any person, who was born in Makai, ever have a chance to be an idea that a fan girl would may think. He is ruthless and a cold demon. Is he evil? I don't think so because in my point of view, he had a relationship with all his comrade. Example with Yomi, Kurama may had mercy on him even though Yomi was dispose by Kurama. Kurama could of killed/left Yomi the first time when he disobey him. This could be a sign that He had mercy on Yomi and could think that Kurama gave Yomi a test (During when Yomi left the 2nd time to the castle) wether he is a loyal comrade or a fool. Also with Kuronue, we could image Kurama heart broken when Kuronue died.

I could think more but don't feel like typing anymore. Finger cramp. >.>


I have something wrong with your theory--or, more accurately, canon does. Kurama clearly stated that he took over the body of a fetus--an unborn baby--and merged with it BEFORE THAT FETUS DEVELOPED ITS OWN SOUL. 3nodding

Therefore, one soul.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:07 pm


Lilbang
My thought on Yoko Kurama personality.... I can think of many idea as to who is Yoko Kurama

(1)
Many people see Yoko Kurama as a seducive kitsune but was it really proven in the anime? Yes, it's a fact that fox are consider as cunning and seducive base on many chinese/korean/japanese folklore but I have never seen Yoko Kurama act sexual. I may be wrong if Yoko Kurama is sexual since I have never read the manga book and instead watch the anime.

(2)Haha,my friend and I made this theory up rofl

-Many people are debating wether or not Kurama have one soul or two souls. Because of his changing attitude, many people are confuse.

-He may be just one soul who life was changed because of his mother. After experice the love of his mother during the incident, he may have dedicated his life to his mother and became much nicer person.

-He may have two soul who is combine with a human soul. Before Yoko Kurama enter Shiori womb, there was a unborn baby. Every life have a soul including the unborn baby. When Yoko Kurama enter Shiori womb, it either kick the poor unborn baby or fused with the unborn soul.

(3)
Many fan picture Yoko as a fun, mischeivios or sexual person. But is it true? How can any person, who was born in Makai, ever have a chance to be an idea that a fan girl would may think. He is ruthless and a cold demon. Is he evil? I don't think so because in my point of view, he had a relationship with all his comrade. Example with Yomi, Kurama may had mercy on him even though Yomi was dispose by Kurama. Kurama could of killed/left Yomi the first time when he disobey him. This could be a sign that He had mercy on Yomi and could think that Kurama gave Yomi a test (During when Yomi left the 2nd time to the castle) wether he is a loyal comrade or a fool. Also with Kuronue, we could image Kurama heart broken when Kuronue died.

I could think more but don't feel like typing anymore. Finger cramp. >.>


It is true in myths kitsune are sexual but the old myths usually don't transfer into manga.. They come up in Doujinshi a lot though...
So he isn't likely sexual in the manga/anime. The legends also say that kitsune harvest ki (energy) though sexual conduct though I haven't seen
Youko do that yet..

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:38 pm


I'm still in "LMFAO" Mode, for the person who said:
"youko is the guy who likes to have rough sex."

LOL'd out loud. rofl heart
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:49 am


I wonder what our new member will say about this.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:18 am


I can't believe that I don't care for Youko anymore, Gawd I must be depressed.

Still laughing
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:05 pm


My beliefs:

Youko Kurama: Like a lion - very caring and protective of his group, but woe be unto he who crosses him. Ruthless? Yes. The law of the Makai is much like the law of nature: Kill or be killed. Killer? See my previous statement. Youko most likely killed people who were a threat, who attacked, and if he stole from them and they attacked. So basically, yes, one can hypothesize that Youko Kurama is a ruthless killer. Evil? Maybe, in a sense. Reverse Urashima said that (human) Kurama was giving him a look that reminded him of a demon he knew once that was the personification of utter evil. This may or may not be referring to Youko, but I believe it does. On another note, Youko may very well be a sexual creature, but that is a part of his past that is hidden to us, and we'll never know the truth, only mere speculations.

{I probably just merely summed up what everyone else is saying, but oh well. xd }

Minamino Shuuichi: Shuuichi and Youko are one. Kurama has said so himself, to Goki in the flashback part before Youko's battle with Reverse Urashima in volume 10. He said something to the effect of there having been an indivisible fusion. {Sorry fangirls, they're a solid unit. xd } Kurama is softspoken and polite...unless you threaten him, and, as he said, he may not be as powerful as he once was, but that doesn't mean that he can't be worse. Kurama is very kind to his friends, and would give his life for the team. {He proved that in his battle with Karasu.} He is no longer truly Youko Kurama, so I believe that the name 'Kurama' suits him well. He's not Youko, but he's not really Shuuichi either. He's a little bit of both worlds.

And that's all I, Youko Kurama, have to say about that. xd It's weird to talk about one's self in third person. 3nodding

teh Youko Kurama~sama



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:17 pm


I'm wondering why some people think that Youko is a "Evil person"

He is just very strict, since he does own a team of bandits, he must be careful and skilled for tasks.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:36 pm


I am not "evil" per se, unless you're someone who has gotten on my bad side, or hurt one of my teammates. Then you may view me as "evil". XP;

teh Youko Kurama~sama



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:45 pm


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I'm wondering why some people think that Youko is a "Evil person"

He is just very strict, since he does own a team of bandits, he must be careful and skilled for tasks.


Y'know...by that limitation, we'd have no evil people in the world at all. XD

(What is evil? What is good? Why are we so set on seeing the world in black and white when we are easily the blackest things that exist on this planet?)
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