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Lethkhar

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:30 pm


wolfgrrrl
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wodewose
I`ve been on on anti depressants and anti psychotics for years, no amount of " professional help " has worked, neither have the drugs.I no longer contribute anything to the world, so logically leaving the world will be the right move.


And yet you're openly proclaiming it to us?

If you can talk about it to us, what does that say? Is this a matter of pride to you? Suicide is not something to be proud of. If you're going to do it, none of us can really stop you. If you'd like to talk to someone, I'm sure plenty of people would be willing to listen. If you don't want to talk to a friend, a crisis line will do. But don't be proud of your decision. I'm not saying it's a "bad" decision (I don't know the details), but it is not a noble or otherwise "good" decision.

Quite frankly, I think you're being selfish in saying that you don't contribute to the world. Don't you have a family? Friends? Considering yourself alone in the world is so very selfish. Suicide is selfish as hell. Being selfish is human nature. But think of others before you decide to kill yourself.


if it wants to die, let it!
the fewer mentally ill clogging up the world the better!


Hmm...Schizophrenia. So sad. But still, there are ways around it. If you committ suicide, it's your choice. But all I'm saying is that there are plenty of things that you could do that aren't so cowardly.

I really hope you stop yourself, because it's really sad when a close relative or friend dies, especially when they kill themselves. You blame yourself for the rest of your life for not making them happier or being nicer to them.

Sorry I'm thinking of someone else right now...
PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:52 pm


wolfgrrrl
which is a damn shame as schizophrenics should be euthanised.

Quote:
if it wants to die, let it!
the fewer mentally ill clogging up the world the better!


Your anger is causing you to become inhuman and sound like Hitler's Angel of Death. neutral Please rethink your stance, especially if you were put in the stance of being unable to tell what is reality and what is your imagination.

Jameta


wolfgrrrl

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:00 am


Jameta
wolfgrrrl
which is a damn shame as schizophrenics should be euthanised.

Quote:
if it wants to die, let it!
the fewer mentally ill clogging up the world the better!


Your anger is causing you to become inhuman and sound like Hitler's Angel of Death. neutral Please rethink your stance, especially if you were put in the stance of being unable to tell what is reality and what is your imagination.


oh, cry me a river !
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:13 am


wolfgrrrl
Jameta
wolfgrrrl
which is a damn shame as schizophrenics should be euthanised.

Quote:
if it wants to die, let it!
the fewer mentally ill clogging up the world the better!


Your anger is causing you to become inhuman and sound like Hitler's Angel of Death. neutral Please rethink your stance, especially if you were put in the stance of being unable to tell what is reality and what is your imagination.


oh, cry me a river !
A little water cannot kill but, but a whole lot can. I live around major water sources, and know the power they can produce.

The same is true for emotions, and clearly, you're letting yours get the better of you, rather than moving forward. What kind of message does that send to those around you? Does a progressive person really keep all that hatred and closed-mindedness like you are?

You need to do some reflection and letting go. By holding onto your pain, you're letting that which created it continue to control you.

Jameta


wolfgrrrl

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:22 am


don`t you ******** yanks ever get tired of telling other people what they "need" to do? rolleyes
maybe that`s why half the world hates you!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:35 pm


wolfgrrrl
don`t you ******** yanks ever get tired of telling other people what they "need" to do? rolleyes
maybe that`s why half the world hates you!
neutral Now you're avoiding the subject by attacking my nationality; very closed-minded.

And honestly, I bet the other members would agree with with my statements concerning yourself.

Jameta


Lethkhar

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:43 pm


Jameta
wolfgrrrl
don`t you ******** yanks ever get tired of telling other people what they "need" to do? rolleyes
maybe that`s why half the world hates you!
neutral Now you're avoiding the subject by attacking my nationality; very closed-minded.

And honestly, I bet the other members would agree with with my statements concerning yourself.

I agree, and I'm not a "yank".

Wolfgrrrl, you're acting really ignorant and I'm sorry but encouraging someone to commit suicide is against TOS.

If you want to have an educated discussion, do it here. If you want to insult people and tell them to kill themselves, go somewhere else.

And I doubt that half the world even knows what a "yank" is...
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:20 pm


Lethkar is right, this is not the place to be rude and insulting, you have plenty of opportunity for that on the main board. It's too bad your troubles have caused you so much pain wolfgrrl, but if you open yourself up you can find help and happiness here.

Essence of Terra
Captain


HydeDaFreak

PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:28 pm


gayzilla
Suicide is NEVER a noble choice, and one only made by cowards.


I don't believe in mortal sin, so I wouldn't say it's a sin, but it is wrong.



Well i disagree, suicide is the do-it-yourself-way it is nether cowardly or noble and should be looked on as such
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:11 am


HydeDaFreak
gayzilla
Suicide is NEVER a noble choice, and one only made by cowards.


I don't believe in mortal sin, so I wouldn't say it's a sin, but it is wrong.



Well i disagree, suicide is the do-it-yourself-way it is nether cowardly or noble and should be looked on as such
...True, it is "do-it-yourself", but it's highly different than building a shed or repairing a toaster. confused It is destroying one's own life force that has been bestowed upon one, and for many, for various reasons, find this very wrong.

It is considered the coward's way out by many because it can appear (and is, in cases) that the individual just does not want to continue taking on the challenges of life.

Jameta


LadyVIolence

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:10 am


wodewose
If someone is truly adamant that their life should end, why does society still have such a negative view of self-deliverence?


For me it all depends on why. Stupid reasons like bullying or exam stress is no reason to kill yourself. Wanting to die on a hospital bed as way of Euthanasia is acceptable in my book, though.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:39 am


I would prefer to (excuse the metaphore) die by my own sword than that of my enemys. (Hehe, ok, i cant say that with a straight face ^^)
Killing yourself because of stress/bullying/exams is no reason to kill yourself and what not, but suicide for a good reason is something i compleatly understand.
But then again, i would never commit suicide unless i had lived an honourable life, which so far i havnt...

This is a very difficult topic to discuss because it depends entirely on your own views.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:37 am


Well after reading most of your posts in here I have come up with some interesting thoughts. One, is that if you truly believe that is where your path lies then there is nothing any of us can do to stop you from doing. Two, is that possibly if you have the courage to admit that you have this then maybe life isn't so hard after all. What I have learned is that in life it maybe hard but you have to keep trying to make your life better instead of just sitting around doing nothing. Killing your self in my opinion is not going to help at all because when you return to your former self you might realize it was a bad idea in the first place. Here in this realm is so hard to live because for me I'am in constant comunication with the spirits of the other side. I always told everyone that I probley almost had the worst life imagionable because I had to not only deal with my own problems but face others as well and actually feel what they were going through. Not to mention dealing with talking to people who have passed on or talking to spirits of such a high understanding. I also have a few disabilities my self. I'am bipolar, and my thuoghts race ALOT. I have also been classified as skitz. but I really don't think my problem is like um...like yours. When I was younger, I felt everything had to end right then and right now because I just felt like I couldnt handle it any longer. Some how dealing with even all that I managed to move on and accept the fact that I had these things. My friends and family dont know how I can continue to help other people when alot of the time I hurt inside. I think its because my will to carry on life is so strong I believe I can do anything. I love this world and everyone in it, and to take that treasure away would just be stupid. Its like I have said before, the seasons change waiting for no one but people must also learn to move on. If you dont move on life leaves you behind and then you have to catch up when you realize what you have been doing all this time and that is not always easy. Even with all the stress I go through I manage to get through because of friends, and if it wasn't for them then I probley wouldn't be here today because I would have givin up long ago. Everyone in here may not know you personally but I'm sure that most care for you as if they did and to me that is real friendship. The people in here are so awesome in helping others out, we may argue sometimes but if we didn't it wouldn't be any fun. But I see all of us as friends here welcoming others of like mind. My advice to you is to not look at the negitive side to your life because that will only bring you down. Instead, focus on the people who mostly care about you because they are the ones that truly believe you can do it. Remember that life never ends, it is eternal and ever lasting. Even though it maybe hard look for friends that care for you and know they will guide you, those are the people that will help you help your self. In the long run, you will realize that this world is more better then you see it now if you just wait it out and try to live life happy. Even though that my life maybe stressful I try to find ways to make it not so stressful. I don't take medication for my problems because to me it never helps and if we have these things it must be a reason why. It is apart of us that people try to get rid of but in truth you cant get rid of your self by taking medication so there for the problem wont go away. We choose everything that we have before we even enter our bodies, since this is true we cannot get rid of any of the "disabilities" out there because they are us. Over time I learned to take life slow and not to rush into things. I also learned to merge with my feelings and try and be well as best as I could. Even though my thoughts race and my moods change alot...it does not matter to me as long as my friends are by my side because I know that they will always be there for me just as I have always been there for them. I know that you wonder why you have the things you do, everyone does. The thing you must know is not to dwell on it because your answer will come in time. Please dont just give up on life like countless others have, it would be a waste of coming here if you were to end it your self. You need to find a grounding that helps you through life, mine is my friends. You can find another way to help your self get through this or you can use the way I do it. As long as you can help your self it will be good. If your thinking that you dont have any friends, I would have to say that your wrong because if you didnt then none of us would have responded to this post at all and tried to help you. I think I speak for all of us when I say, dont give up on life because you have so much your unaware of here and if you just try then everything will be alright in the end because of friends. I hope you find what your looking for in life and I also hope that you stay with us so that we my help each other.

Blessed Be
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