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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:30 pm
SoViEtTaNkT34 Contra mundus SoViEtTaNkT34 Moment of Schumpter, Althusser and Hoxha. Thumbs up for the first two. The last one gets a.... neutral .........hmmmmmmmm...... lmao Come on Hoxha with Religion..... who cant agree with ******** YOU RELIGION scream BURN THE CROSSES BURN QUARANS BURN BIBLES!!! BURN BURN !!! *Person Wearing Cross* <.< scream *shoots* heart Hoxha's religious policy... thats a way to deal with religious ideology wink But here comes Kagerou with big old buddah to ruin my Hoxha fun time..... She's a work or something else.... In addition you need to stop getting on when I'm off Kagerou! You know what I'm talking about!
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:47 am
Contra mundus SoViEtTaNkT34 Contra mundus SoViEtTaNkT34 Moment of Schumpter, Althusser and Hoxha. Thumbs up for the first two. The last one gets a.... neutral .........hmmmmmmmm...... lmao Come on Hoxha with Religion..... who cant agree with ******** YOU RELIGION scream BURN THE CROSSES BURN QUARANS BURN BIBLES!!! BURN BURN !!! *Person Wearing Cross* <.< scream *shoots* heart Hoxha's religious policy... thats a way to deal with religious ideology wink But here comes Kagerou with big old buddah to ruin my Hoxha fun time..... She's a work or something else.... In addition you need to stop getting on when I'm off Kagerou! You know what I'm talking about! Is this counted as being insane? Or does this get through in order to leave my myself again.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:46 pm
ValentineWiggin Monsieur Rosebud well mom and dad are okay with me being a Socialist....just as long as Im not a Communist, silly McCarthy generation I'm not sure If I should call myself a communist or socialist, I guess I'd be a socialist, even though I think communisms not a bad Idea, I think it's impossible to work out with the natural Emotions/Desires and Choatic behavior of Human Beings. There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:10 pm
The Leninator! ValentineWiggin Monsieur Rosebud well mom and dad are okay with me being a Socialist....just as long as Im not a Communist, silly McCarthy generation I'm not sure If I should call myself a communist or socialist, I guess I'd be a socialist, even though I think communisms not a bad Idea, I think it's impossible to work out with the natural Emotions/Desires and Choatic behavior of Human Beings. There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace. Thats total bullshit, and you know it, a human not knowing anything of evil, may act upon evil just by just a feeling of desire or want. Thoose who reject wealth for peace are people who just desire peace. Everyone is born with natural desires. I also believe everyone is born with the instincked to kill in order to survive if necassacy, even if they choose never to kill they still have that ability. twisted Thats what makes human Predators not prey. people arent born good, people arent born evil, they're born with a mixture of both, which path they choose is their decision. You can corrupt people along the way (while they grow up) in order to better the odds of them choosing the path you want them too (you can corrupt them towards good too, but a better word for that is to guide them). P.S. I'm not sure if I successfully communicated what I wanted to say, I hope you dont translate it to a diffrent meaning, that seems to happen alot.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:48 pm
ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin Monsieur Rosebud well mom and dad are okay with me being a Socialist....just as long as Im not a Communist, silly McCarthy generation I'm not sure If I should call myself a communist or socialist, I guess I'd be a socialist, even though I think communisms not a bad Idea, I think it's impossible to work out with the natural Emotions/Desires and Choatic behavior of Human Beings. There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace. Thats total bullshit, and you know it, a human not knowing anything of evil, may act upon evil just by just a feeling of desire or want. Thoose who reject wealth for peace are people who just desire peace. Everyone is born with natural desires. I also believe everyone is born with the instincked to kill in order to survive if necassacy, even if they choose never to kill they still have that ability. twisted Thats what makes human Predators not prey. people arent born good, people arent born evil, they're born with a mixture of both, which path they choose is their decision. You can corrupt people along the way (while they grow up) in order to better the odds of them choosing the path you want them too (you can corrupt them towards good too, but a better word for that is to guide them). P.S. I'm not sure if I successfully communicated what I wanted to say, I hope you dont translate it to a diffrent meaning, that seems to happen alot. No no I get your general idea and you say that we are born good and evil and choose our destiny and which side we go to. Which is exactly what I said, humans have desires but that doesn't mean our nature is to choose them. You said humans have different desires, meaning that there is no inherant human nature, not all humans desire peace, not all desire war, not all desire chaos. Again, I agree, and all omnivorus or carnivorous animals have the ability to kill, we learned to back when we all hunted but at this point in time you couldn't go up to the standard American and starve them then put them near a gazelle and see them live for the next week. You say all people are different, with different desires- I say the same thing- there is no inherant want of all people (aka human nature) for one thing or another, everyone wants the obvious things (food, water, shelter) but not everyone wants things like war, peace, love, hate, death, or anything at all. Welcome to existentialism comrade.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:14 pm
The Leninator! ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin Monsieur Rosebud well mom and dad are okay with me being a Socialist....just as long as Im not a Communist, silly McCarthy generation I'm not sure If I should call myself a communist or socialist, I guess I'd be a socialist, even though I think communisms not a bad Idea, I think it's impossible to work out with the natural Emotions/Desires and Choatic behavior of Human Beings. There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace. Thats total bullshit, and you know it, a human not knowing anything of evil, may act upon evil just by just a feeling of desire or want. Thoose who reject wealth for peace are people who just desire peace. Everyone is born with natural desires. I also believe everyone is born with the instincked to kill in order to survive if necassacy, even if they choose never to kill they still have that ability. twisted Thats what makes human Predators not prey. people arent born good, people arent born evil, they're born with a mixture of both, which path they choose is their decision. You can corrupt people along the way (while they grow up) in order to better the odds of them choosing the path you want them too (you can corrupt them towards good too, but a better word for that is to guide them). P.S. I'm not sure if I successfully communicated what I wanted to say, I hope you dont translate it to a diffrent meaning, that seems to happen alot. No no I get your general idea and you say that we are born good and evil and choose our destiny and which side we go to. Which is exactly what I said, humans have desires but that doesn't mean our nature is to choose them. You said humans have different desires, meaning that there is no inherant human nature, not all humans desire peace, not all desire war, not all desire chaos. Again, I agree, and all omnivorus or carnivorous animals have the ability to kill, we learned to back when we all hunted but at this point in time you couldn't go up to the standard American and starve them then put them near a gazelle and see them live for the next week. You say all people are different, with different desires- I say the same thing- there is no inherant want of all people (aka human nature) for one thing or another, everyone wants the obvious things (food, water, shelter) but not everyone wants things like war, peace, love, hate, death, or anything at all. Welcome to existentialism comrade. ok so we were both saying them same thing in a diffrent sense of termonology. If thier is a god he's one twisted ******** xD Human existance is just one choatic mess.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:12 pm
im going to adress lots of points manly the fact that all this is relative to the fact of the human mind thinking to fast to prosses and wanting to explain things which need to only have been thought about so the saying of good and evil are relative to what the human population at the time states to be the "line" that crosses what to be liked and dis liked and human emotions is a diffrent story ... that i wont dwell in but bak to evil and good as is north to south or east to west as a human on a line only sees 2 points.
Sorry about the mis spellings and over all bad grammer O_p
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:12 pm
ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin Monsieur Rosebud well mom and dad are okay with me being a Socialist....just as long as Im not a Communist, silly McCarthy generation I'm not sure If I should call myself a communist or socialist, I guess I'd be a socialist, even though I think communisms not a bad Idea, I think it's impossible to work out with the natural Emotions/Desires and Choatic behavior of Human Beings. There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace. Thats total bullshit, and you know it, a human not knowing anything of evil, may act upon evil just by just a feeling of desire or want. Thoose who reject wealth for peace are people who just desire peace. Everyone is born with natural desires. I also believe everyone is born with the instincked to kill in order to survive if necassacy, even if they choose never to kill they still have that ability. twisted Thats what makes human Predators not prey. people arent born good, people arent born evil, they're born with a mixture of both, which path they choose is their decision. You can corrupt people along the way (while they grow up) in order to better the odds of them choosing the path you want them too (you can corrupt them towards good too, but a better word for that is to guide them). P.S. I'm not sure if I successfully communicated what I wanted to say, I hope you dont translate it to a diffrent meaning, that seems to happen alot. No no I get your general idea and you say that we are born good and evil and choose our destiny and which side we go to. Which is exactly what I said, humans have desires but that doesn't mean our nature is to choose them. You said humans have different desires, meaning that there is no inherant human nature, not all humans desire peace, not all desire war, not all desire chaos. Again, I agree, and all omnivorus or carnivorous animals have the ability to kill, we learned to back when we all hunted but at this point in time you couldn't go up to the standard American and starve them then put them near a gazelle and see them live for the next week. You say all people are different, with different desires- I say the same thing- there is no inherant want of all people (aka human nature) for one thing or another, everyone wants the obvious things (food, water, shelter) but not everyone wants things like war, peace, love, hate, death, or anything at all. Welcome to existentialism comrade. ok so we were both saying them same thing in a diffrent sense of termonology. If thier is a god he's one twisted ******** xD Human existance is just one choatic mess. A God from the machines. In other words we create this thing, or idea. In fact there nerve was a, "God' in the sense the Bible or other books state. just us, I fought many God belivers on Gaia and I can say is they state the same thing over and over again. Ask them who is creator of the creators creator. If they pull God is finite say that zero hour nothing existed and if God existed outside of the universe he can't exist to us, or they will pull "It's turtles all the way up." Anyway humans think according to hat they see very young, if you see people hurt you could possibly be violent later in life or could be peaceful. people are different. Those who like science, history, and math could be a general or a scientist. Even social environment doesn't decide what they will be just what they might be.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:09 am
Well, when I talked to my dad about it, he says that i'm crazy. I told him who i'll vote for when i'm older, and why I have communistic beliefs, but he said "Oh, it's never going to happen, so why believe in it ?"
I don't care what he thinks really, it's my oppinion and my view on things, not his. I don't think my mom cares too much though, infact she's even intrested in voting for the CPB.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:46 pm
Steven Hawkings ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin The Leninator! There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace. Thats total bullshit, and you know it, a human not knowing anything of evil, may act upon evil just by just a feeling of desire or want. Thoose who reject wealth for peace are people who just desire peace. Everyone is born with natural desires. I also believe everyone is born with the instincked to kill in order to survive if necassacy, even if they choose never to kill they still have that ability. twisted Thats what makes human Predators not prey. people arent born good, people arent born evil, they're born with a mixture of both, which path they choose is their decision. You can corrupt people along the way (while they grow up) in order to better the odds of them choosing the path you want them too (you can corrupt them towards good too, but a better word for that is to guide them). P.S. I'm not sure if I successfully communicated what I wanted to say, I hope you dont translate it to a diffrent meaning, that seems to happen alot. No no I get your general idea and you say that we are born good and evil and choose our destiny and which side we go to. Which is exactly what I said, humans have desires but that doesn't mean our nature is to choose them. You said humans have different desires, meaning that there is no inherant human nature, not all humans desire peace, not all desire war, not all desire chaos. Again, I agree, and all omnivorus or carnivorous animals have the ability to kill, we learned to back when we all hunted but at this point in time you couldn't go up to the standard American and starve them then put them near a gazelle and see them live for the next week. You say all people are different, with different desires- I say the same thing- there is no inherant want of all people (aka human nature) for one thing or another, everyone wants the obvious things (food, water, shelter) but not everyone wants things like war, peace, love, hate, death, or anything at all. Welcome to existentialism comrade. ok so we were both saying them same thing in a diffrent sense of termonology. If thier is a god he's one twisted ******** xD Human existance is just one choatic mess. A God from the machines. In other words we create this thing, or idea. In fact there nerve was a, "God' in the sense the Bible or other books state. just us, I fought many God belivers on Gaia and I can say is they state the same thing over and over again. Ask them who is creator of the creators creator. If they pull God is finite say that zero hour nothing existed and if God existed outside of the universe he can't exist to us, or they will pull "It's turtles all the way up." Anyway humans think according to hat they see very young, if you see people hurt you could possibly be violent later in life or could be peaceful. people are different. Those who like science, history, and math could be a general or a scientist. Even social environment doesn't decide what they will be just what they might be. You can grow up seeing volience and not be volient, you can grow up never seeing volience and be volient, If you have to see volient to be volient, how could volience begin in the first place.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:48 pm
ValentineWiggin Steven Hawkings ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin The Leninator! There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace. Thats total bullshit, and you know it, a human not knowing anything of evil, may act upon evil just by just a feeling of desire or want. Thoose who reject wealth for peace are people who just desire peace. Everyone is born with natural desires. I also believe everyone is born with the instincked to kill in order to survive if necassacy, even if they choose never to kill they still have that ability. twisted Thats what makes human Predators not prey. people arent born good, people arent born evil, they're born with a mixture of both, which path they choose is their decision. You can corrupt people along the way (while they grow up) in order to better the odds of them choosing the path you want them too (you can corrupt them towards good too, but a better word for that is to guide them). P.S. I'm not sure if I successfully communicated what I wanted to say, I hope you dont translate it to a diffrent meaning, that seems to happen alot. No no I get your general idea and you say that we are born good and evil and choose our destiny and which side we go to. Which is exactly what I said, humans have desires but that doesn't mean our nature is to choose them. You said humans have different desires, meaning that there is no inherant human nature, not all humans desire peace, not all desire war, not all desire chaos. Again, I agree, and all omnivorus or carnivorous animals have the ability to kill, we learned to back when we all hunted but at this point in time you couldn't go up to the standard American and starve them then put them near a gazelle and see them live for the next week. You say all people are different, with different desires- I say the same thing- there is no inherant want of all people (aka human nature) for one thing or another, everyone wants the obvious things (food, water, shelter) but not everyone wants things like war, peace, love, hate, death, or anything at all. Welcome to existentialism comrade. ok so we were both saying them same thing in a diffrent sense of termonology. If thier is a god he's one twisted ******** xD Human existance is just one choatic mess. A God from the machines. In other words we create this thing, or idea. In fact there nerve was a, "God' in the sense the Bible or other books state. just us, I fought many God belivers on Gaia and I can say is they state the same thing over and over again. Ask them who is creator of the creators creator. If they pull God is finite say that zero hour nothing existed and if God existed outside of the universe he can't exist to us, or they will pull "It's turtles all the way up." Anyway humans think according to hat they see very young, if you see people hurt you could possibly be violent later in life or could be peaceful. people are different. Those who like science, history, and math could be a general or a scientist. Even social environment doesn't decide what they will be just what they might be. You can grow up seeing volience and not be volient, you can grow up never seeing volience and be volient, If you have to see volient to be volient, how could volience begin in the first place. It's all socialoigly.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:51 pm
Commissar Xerovan Well, when I talked to my dad about it, he says that i'm crazy. I told him who i'll vote for when i'm older, and why I have communistic beliefs, but he said "Oh, it's never going to happen, so why believe in it ?" I don't care what he thinks really, it's my oppinion and my view on things, not his. I don't think my mom cares too much though, infact she's even intrested in voting for the CPB. "Who says its never gonna happen, who says its never gonna work?" And everytime I ask that question no one answers, and If they did I would just respond with "Well using that logic, democracy will never work, true equality will never happen, so why believe in that?" Sure Its not probible to work, but maybe one day we will evolve to a mind-set where it will work. (Just for the record I dont believe in the Theory of Evolution or Darwinism. I just meant to devolop to a new better mindset.) Why Fight for democracy?, Why Fight for Communism? basiclly the same question.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:17 am
ValentineWiggin Steven Hawkings ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin The Leninator! There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace. Thats total bullshit, and you know it, a human not knowing anything of evil, may act upon evil just by just a feeling of desire or want. Thoose who reject wealth for peace are people who just desire peace. Everyone is born with natural desires. I also believe everyone is born with the instincked to kill in order to survive if necassacy, even if they choose never to kill they still have that ability. twisted Thats what makes human Predators not prey. people arent born good, people arent born evil, they're born with a mixture of both, which path they choose is their decision. You can corrupt people along the way (while they grow up) in order to better the odds of them choosing the path you want them too (you can corrupt them towards good too, but a better word for that is to guide them). P.S. I'm not sure if I successfully communicated what I wanted to say, I hope you dont translate it to a diffrent meaning, that seems to happen alot. No no I get your general idea and you say that we are born good and evil and choose our destiny and which side we go to. Which is exactly what I said, humans have desires but that doesn't mean our nature is to choose them. You said humans have different desires, meaning that there is no inherant human nature, not all humans desire peace, not all desire war, not all desire chaos. Again, I agree, and all omnivorus or carnivorous animals have the ability to kill, we learned to back when we all hunted but at this point in time you couldn't go up to the standard American and starve them then put them near a gazelle and see them live for the next week. You say all people are different, with different desires- I say the same thing- there is no inherant want of all people (aka human nature) for one thing or another, everyone wants the obvious things (food, water, shelter) but not everyone wants things like war, peace, love, hate, death, or anything at all. Welcome to existentialism comrade. ok so we were both saying them same thing in a diffrent sense of termonology. If thier is a god he's one twisted ******** xD Human existance is just one choatic mess. A God from the machines. In other words we create this thing, or idea. In fact there nerve was a, "God' in the sense the Bible or other books state. just us, I fought many God belivers on Gaia and I can say is they state the same thing over and over again. Ask them who is creator of the creators creator. If they pull God is finite say that zero hour nothing existed and if God existed outside of the universe he can't exist to us, or they will pull "It's turtles all the way up." Anyway humans think according to hat they see very young, if you see people hurt you could possibly be violent later in life or could be peaceful. people are different. Those who like science, history, and math could be a general or a scientist. Even social environment doesn't decide what they will be just what they might be. You can grow up seeing volience and not be volient, you can grow up never seeing volience and be volient, If you have to see volient to be volient, how could volience begin in the first place. Everyone sees violence, whether it be in real life or the tv or computer or videogames or newspaper or anything. Violence probably began in the first place with humans mimicing other animals and hunting, then using the logic that if they can use violence against animals they hunt then they can use it against animals they don't hunt. That or they saw a fight break out between a pack of animals and a light went off in their heads. I believe that most people are a product of their environment, but there are exceptions- but those people who have seen violence and not been violent are almost never that way out of some random impulse or what many people would call "human nature", they usually have someone who they knew who affected them in such a way that it countered the violent images that had shaped them. About god, yes most people who believe in god can't pull up any proof of a god much less proof of god being loving. At least nothing that makes him more loving then hating considering if there is a god then he chose for poverty, hunger, murder, drug addiction, the rich-poor divide, the holocaust, war, birth defects, disease etc. to be here. The great example is Why Won't God Heal Amputees? Look up "10 questions every intellegent christian must ask themselves" and watch the video and some others by that guy, it's quite interesting. Same with those who don't believe in evolution, while I can pull up proof of evolution and natural selection they cannot pull up anything disprooving evolution or prooving creationism or whatever else they think. To comrade Hawkings, have you ever heard of the Darwin's Finches experiment conducted by Rosemary and Peter Grant that prooves evolution over a rather short period of time? It's very interesting, I also recomend it to ValentineWiggin, I guarantee it'll at least make you question your ideas on evolution and Darwinism.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:24 am
ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin The Leninator! ValentineWiggin Monsieur Rosebud well mom and dad are okay with me being a Socialist....just as long as Im not a Communist, silly McCarthy generation I'm not sure If I should call myself a communist or socialist, I guess I'd be a socialist, even though I think communisms not a bad Idea, I think it's impossible to work out with the natural Emotions/Desires and Choatic behavior of Human Beings. There is no human nature (been scientifically prooven), humans are created by the situations we're in and the choices we make, not an inherant nature. Not all people are greedy, the ones who glorify it are, not all people are chaotic, only those who choose to be. They found old bodies of early humans in Northern Iraq a few year back and these bodies were covered in polin yet there were no flowers near the cave. The only explanation is that flowers were put on the bodies showing concepts of death in early humans. Also, one of the bodies was disabled and old showing that they took care of their disabled people. This is not chaotic. There are examples of people who have not been chaotic or greedy, there have been those who rejected wealth, those who only chose peace. Thats total bullshit, and you know it, a human not knowing anything of evil, may act upon evil just by just a feeling of desire or want. Thoose who reject wealth for peace are people who just desire peace. Everyone is born with natural desires. I also believe everyone is born with the instincked to kill in order to survive if necassacy, even if they choose never to kill they still have that ability. twisted Thats what makes human Predators not prey. people arent born good, people arent born evil, they're born with a mixture of both, which path they choose is their decision. You can corrupt people along the way (while they grow up) in order to better the odds of them choosing the path you want them too (you can corrupt them towards good too, but a better word for that is to guide them). P.S. I'm not sure if I successfully communicated what I wanted to say, I hope you dont translate it to a diffrent meaning, that seems to happen alot. No no I get your general idea and you say that we are born good and evil and choose our destiny and which side we go to. Which is exactly what I said, humans have desires but that doesn't mean our nature is to choose them. You said humans have different desires, meaning that there is no inherant human nature, not all humans desire peace, not all desire war, not all desire chaos. Again, I agree, and all omnivorus or carnivorous animals have the ability to kill, we learned to back when we all hunted but at this point in time you couldn't go up to the standard American and starve them then put them near a gazelle and see them live for the next week. You say all people are different, with different desires- I say the same thing- there is no inherant want of all people (aka human nature) for one thing or another, everyone wants the obvious things (food, water, shelter) but not everyone wants things like war, peace, love, hate, death, or anything at all. Welcome to existentialism comrade. ok so we were both saying them same thing in a diffrent sense of termonology. If thier is a god he's one twisted ******** xD Human existance is just one choatic mess. To put it simply yes, but there are multiple ways of looking at it. The cynic would simply say- "The human race is ******** optimist would say- "We can make it and get it together by holding hands and singing" Neither is quite right, as humans we have dug ourselves into the deepest hole in history in terms of violence especially in the US where we have the largest gun crimes out of any country in the world. I think that we can get to a society where violence is minimal, but I never think we can come all the way out of the hole we're in. I also agree with Huey P. Newton-“Sometimes if you want to get rid of the gun, you have to pick the gun up.”- in order to get to the society of minimal violence then there must be revolution.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:51 am
why do people make being a communist sounds like your lgbt
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