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 Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:09 pm
Crazo the Watcher You have no proof of any of the three men mentioned not being Ash's dad, and I have proof that the game character is not his dad, nor does he use Celibi and go back in time and do his mom. So either one of the three mentioned are his dad, or his dad is dead, or his dad is off on his adventure and some day Ash will meet him on his travels. ▫▪▫ LOL
There are these things called jokes.
I don't know if you've hear about them though :[ ▫▪▫
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:48 pm
`Rhea Crazo the Watcher You have no proof of any of the three men mentioned not being Ash's dad, and I have proof that the game character is not his dad, nor does he use Celibi and go back in time and do his mom. So either one of the three mentioned are his dad, or his dad is dead, or his dad is off on his adventure and some day Ash will meet him on his travels. ▫▪▫ LOL
There are these things called jokes.
I don't know if you've hear about them though :[ ▫▪▫ I no longer joke about Pokemon! And if I am to keep myself into Pokemon, I have to type anything I know about it when talking about it!
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:53 pm
I think Mimey is Satoshi's father.
8D
I'll bet he was a human once but then randomly got turned into a Mr. Mime...
I'm such a genius!
=o!
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:11 pm
Altomare
I think Mimey is Satoshi's father.
8D
I'll bet he was a human once but then randomly got turned into a Mr. Mime...
I'm such a genius!
=o!
It all makes sence now...that must be why they made Pokemon Mystery Dungeon! They wanted us to slowlly learn Mimey is truely Ash's dad! Finally!
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:38 pm
That Giovanni being Ash's dad idea, has given me great idea for fanfiction. On the other hand it would all be very star warsy to me.
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:14 am
JackalGod That Giovanni being Ash's dad idea, has given me great idea for fanfiction. On the other hand it would all be very star warsy to me. XD I love Star WArs. It would be so cool. Then Ash could become the new Team Rocket leader!
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:50 pm
Crazo the Watcher Altomare
I think Mimey is Satoshi's father.
8D
I'll bet he was a human once but then randomly got turned into a Mr. Mime...
I'm such a genius!
=o!
It all makes sence now...that must be why they made Pokemon Mystery Dungeon! They wanted us to slowlly learn Mimey is truely Ash's dad! Finally! The mystery is solved!
lol
Well...maybe...
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:30 am
I say Ash's dad is Giovanni, because I just like that idea xD
I even wrote a fan fic to support the theory xD But the bad thing about that is it's based solely on the dubbed version.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:06 pm
I still vote that he is his own father and used celebi to go back in time and screw his mom domokun
...or his dad is mimey
...or his dad is Ho-oh
...or his dad is dead.
Your pick!
(sorry, I just can't stand the thought of Giovanni being Ash's dad because it has been disproven MANY times)
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:19 am
Angelic Indigo Wolf I still vote that he is his own father and used celebi to go back in time and screw his mom domokun
...or his dad is mimey
...or his dad is Ho-oh
...or his dad is dead.
Your pick!
(sorry, I just can't stand the thought of Giovanni being Ash's dad because it has been disproven MANY times) I honestly haven't seen anything to disprove it. Admittedly, I dont watch Pokemon as adamantly as before though, I could have missed something.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:24 pm
I think its Giovanni just makes sense i think.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:49 pm
[Ren The Ryoko] Angelic Indigo Wolf I still vote that he is his own father and used celebi to go back in time and screw his mom domokun
...or his dad is mimey
...or his dad is Ho-oh
...or his dad is dead.
Your pick!
(sorry, I just can't stand the thought of Giovanni being Ash's dad because it has been disproven MANY times) I honestly haven't seen anything to disprove it. Admittedly, I dont watch Pokemon as adamantly as before though, I could have missed something.
Giovanni couldn't care less about Ash.
Pokemon Live:
Ash's mom said she met his dad after the relationship with Giovanni (and infact was the person to redempt her)
Game:
TR Member: Wait! You can't be Giovanni's kid! Giovanni's kid has red hair!
Manga:
Even if he did exist in the manga, Silver is his son. No "if's" "an's" or "but's" about it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:03 pm
Angelic Indigo Wolf [Ren The Ryoko] Angelic Indigo Wolf I still vote that he is his own father and used celebi to go back in time and screw his mom domokun
...or his dad is mimey
...or his dad is Ho-oh
...or his dad is dead.
Your pick!
(sorry, I just can't stand the thought of Giovanni being Ash's dad because it has been disproven MANY times) I honestly haven't seen anything to disprove it. Admittedly, I dont watch Pokemon as adamantly as before though, I could have missed something.
Giovanni couldn't care less about Ash.
Pokemon Live:
Ash's mom said she met his dad after the relationship with Giovanni (and infact was the person to redempt her)
Game:
TR Member: Wait! You can't be Giovanni's kid! Giovanni's kid has red hair!
Manga:
Even if he did exist in the manga, Silver is his son. No "if's" "an's" or "but's" about it. Anime: Giovanni probably doesnt know Ash is his kid. Why would he? He probably ditched Delia before he knew she was preggers, or right after, and probably doesnt know that she moved to Pallet. Live: As great as it is, it's not canon. Game: He could have more than one kid. Manga: Still, he could have more than one kid. Most people do
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:25 pm
[Ren The Ryoko] Anime: Giovanni probably doesnt know Ash is his kid. Why would he? He probably ditched Delia before he knew she was preggers, or right after, and probably doesnt know that she moved to Pallet. Live: As great as it is, it's not canon. Game: He could have more than one kid. Manga: Still, he could have more than one kid. Most people do
Outside of Pokemon Live! how can you even prove that a relationship even existed between the two in the anime? The two have no interaction thus, you don't know if the two even know about eachother? 2 weeks to Viridian? (or whatever amount of time) Well, why would it take Giovanni two weeks to make it to his hometown? Also, she said that he was "The apple of your father's eye" meaning he HAD to know that Ash existed and cared for him. Also on the trainers journey: As far as we all know based on the Drama CD in that he grew up in Viridian and inherrited TR from his mother after learning her ways. The only time Giovanni takes a training journey is after TR breaks up: wich hasn't happened in the anime yet.
Just like every male character on the show, it automaticly falls into the realm of possibility, however, I highly doubt that Giovanni could possibly be in any way related to Ash because there is no evidence of Delila and Giovanni ever interacting in the anime, and the description that she gave Ash's father does not match Giovanni in any way.
As for the manga:
He doesn't exist. Period. Unless you want to count Red who is a completely diffrent character yet had the same base, wich is pretty much fails because there is evidence of only one child as:
1. He only has pictures/memories of Silver as a child
2. He would never go to such great lengths to find Silver
3. He wouldn't have nearly KILLED Red and his Pokemon when they fought.
4. He wouldn't have nearly KILLED HIMSELF trying to save Silver from a fire
And the games, considering (for all intensive purposes) you ARE playing as Ash or at least the character he is based off of and the agent outright rejects the idea of you being his child is proof enough, along with how he states his child has RED hair wile Ash's is black.
Also, take a look at the punnet square:
(although this rarely applies to anime, I'd like to give it a spin for kicks)
Delila:
Bright Red (Recessive r,r)
Giovanni:
Dark Red (Hetero R.r)
Either way, if they had a kid he would have some shade red hair, and Ash's is black.
Disproven.
Many.
Times.
Over.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:54 pm
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