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Who is worse?
Dyne
58%
 58%  [ 69 ]
Sephiroth
41%
 41%  [ 49 ]
Total Votes : 118


SephirothJr0

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:21 am


Amylin
SephirothJr0
Leirel
Nither are truly bad because due to different reasons both went insane, and an insane percon has no controle of their actions.


I'm going to have to disagree. Yes, I can belive Dyne went insane. However, Sephiroth spent many years study'n and finding out just who he is. Also, Sephiroth takes time in planning out his next moves and is constantly reminding himself of his motive and goal. These aren't the actions a clinically insane person would take. I know from experiance that someone in such a state of mentality acts on instinct and never looks at things from heinsight.


So did Hannibal Lector... I feel Sephiroth is worse than Dyne. Ever of hot and cold crimes? Hot crimes are crimes done under passion; they're typically unplanned. The kind of crimes that Dyne committed... he did not take the time to rationalize his actions. While his reasons may not be as big as Sephiroth's his lack of consideration for his actions becomes evident in his suicide.
Now, Sephiroth... as you said took time, a great deal of it, and considered his actions and planned his every move. Sephiroth committed what would be considered cold crimes. He was not driven by a blinding passion like Dyne. He took that time to consider what was the best move that Dyne didn't and still decided to continue.
You could also consider it like this... Hypothedical situation...
Dyne crimes: This could be considered as like this... say Dyne had been happily married for years. He suddenly walks in on his wife and the man she was having an affair with and in the heat of the moment grabbed his gun and shots them both without thinking just angry.
Sephiroth's crimes: Now, in a similiar situation, Sephiroth discovers some things aren't right and realizes that not only is his wife cheating on him but they were stealing money from him and trying to socially/politically ruin him. Now, they don't know he knows and he has time to consider his options and instead of turning them over to the police or, something along those lines, he still plans how he going to kill the two.
I hope you guys understand that.
So that's why Dyne was considered mislead psycho while Sephiroth was considered a cold-blooded murder. But Sephiroth being so "evil" is what makes him such a great villian.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:10 pm


I think Sephioth is worse

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andy1987

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:51 pm


I think that Dyne is worse than Sephiroth
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:55 pm


SephirothJr0

You're good

I know... xd

Amylin


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:46 pm


SephirothJr0
Leirel
Nither are truly bad because due to different reasons both went insane, and an insane percon has no controle of their actions.


I'm going to have to disagree. Yes, I can belive Dyne went insane. However, Sephiroth spent many years study'n and finding out just who he is. Also, Sephiroth takes time in planning out his next moves and is constantly reminding himself of his motive and goal. These aren't the actions a clinically insane person would take. I know from experiance that someone in such a state of mentality acts on instinct and never looks at things from heinsight.


It didn't take years of studying for Sephiroth to find out what he really was. It took days.

Also, keep in mind that Dyne had 3 years of insanity at his side, while Sephiroth's was more of a spur of the moment thing. Why did I say that about Sephiroth, you ask? Here's why:

Despite popular belief, the Sephiroth that you actually fight is a CLONE. The true Sephiroth had actually died five years previous to the games current time, when Cloud had, while impaled with the Masamune, swung Sephiroth into the depths of the Mako reactor at Mt. Nibel. Sephiroth was holding onto the other end of the blade (the handle, actually), thus the reason Cloud was able to swing him to the side off of the narrow bridge that they both were standing on. This is in a flashback in the game. After Sephiroth's death, Hojo created various "clones" of Sephiroth by getting random people off the streets (Cloud and Zack included), infusing them with Mako and injecting them with JENOVA cells. Because JENOVA can manipulate people, she probably got one of the clones to "transform" into Sephiroth, and any physical transformation was probably due to the JENOVA cells in their bodies. The clone then recieved "memories" and other information from JENOVA, possibly through her ability to telepathically communicate with people who have her cells in their bodies. Thus, you aren't fighting the "real" Sephiroth, since the real one is dead. His clones are the ones causing all the trouble. Sephiroth's clones are worse, since they have JENOVA controlling them, and JENOVA is a heartless alien who almost completely annihilated the Cetra race. The real Sephiroth, however, is not to blame.

The person you should have really put down on the survey was Hojo, since he's the root of the whole problem.

EDIT: You should also put JENOVA on the list, since she probably (there is a slight possiblility) controlled and manipulated Hojo. She probably took advantage of him and his desire to be recognized as a true scientist, not some second best piece of garbage. That's what I figure, anyways.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:51 pm


Yes! My friend drew this and look what Sephiroth did!

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Now you know...

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saintvirgil2790

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:29 pm


no.he nevr went"bad" he found the truth and went crazy.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:00 pm


Sepheroth IS really bad, but I would still marry him if he were real. I listen to his theme music when I sleep and have wonderful dreams of me hanging off of him whild he slamms METIOR into the earth. Than we would get as much ALONE time as we wanted in the promised land. heart



Why did he have to die in the end of Final Fantasy 7 crying

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SephirothJr0

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:21 pm


luvgrint
Sepheroth IS really bad, but I would still marry him if he were real. I listen to his theme music when I sleep and have wonderful dreams of me hanging off of him whild he slamms METIOR into the earth. Than we would get as much ALONE time as we wanted in the promised land. heart



Why did he have to die in the end of Final Fantasy 7 crying


Another true fan
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:41 am


I think they're both terribly wonderful.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:43 am


hey! sephiroth is cool!
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 12:46 pm


metal-gear-gear
hey! sephiroth is cool!

Nobody's questioning how cool he is. sweatdrop We're seeing if people think that he's evil or just misunderstood.

Amylin


the_low_rid_er

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:00 pm


Amylin
metal-gear-gear
hey! sephiroth is cool!

Nobody's questioning how cool he is. sweatdrop We're seeing if people think that he's evil or just misunderstood.


Thanks
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:03 pm


Solardemon
Yes! My friend drew this and look what Sephiroth did!

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Now you know...


That pic and your sig are awsome!

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TaoKitty

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:12 pm


Sphiroth was orginally nice if you noticed and also kind, he just when crazy cause of Jenova and only knowing have truth so I think I b;ame Jenova for this....AND Hojo since Sephiroth could have been a normal person if it wasn't for Hojo....But technicly he did keep his sanity since*WARNING SPOILER TO SOME PEOPLE!!*he showed a picture to Cloud but that's all I'm going to say..
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