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 Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:41 pm
the admins should show more backbone, and stop being so nice to all those little bastards!
being nice to them has caused more problems then needed, think inflation.
those kids will come here anyway, they should do like businessmen and lie to them and say "yeah, you'll get a awesome donation item if you donate" , them pass out something that almost everyone hates and say "but on the forum everyone said they liked it, well give you something better in the next donation letter" and then pull the same scam, until donation letters are worth 4K again.
that would help and make them shut up. those bastards will donate anyway, just because they think they'll be rich fast that way..
and thats the reason why donation letters should be released late in the month
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:19 pm
its pretty funny how many gaians try to sell their start sets... they want gold so badly, that they're almost giving it away...
only need cool sandals and i got the cool clothes complete... XD
* choosen the neutral set *
i dont give a crap about the housing items.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:36 pm
Starter sets encourage newbies to join without fear of being too inadequate. It's hard to start fresh and fit into a new crowd, but a nice set of clothes and a roof over your head probably makes you want to stick around.
Less naked people running around? No complaints here. blaugh
Sides, a lot of self-proclaimed oldbies could be bashed for being spoiled as well. You weren't here when it was MUCH harder to obtain gold by surfing and posting, when Gambino wasn't even on the map, when there were no minigames for extra gold, when the Marketplace wasn't an option and starving artists made 1K for amazing headshots.
And super golden oldbies like Lady Pyre didn't even GET peasant clothes. :]
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:31 pm
Sirius Silverstar Starter sets encourage newbies to join without fear of being too inadequate. It's hard to start fresh and fit into a new crowd, but a nice set of clothes and a roof over your head probably makes you want to stick around. Less naked people running around? No complaints here. blaugh That's precisely my problem with it. More n00bs who would have given up because they had to work for gold staying because they have clothes that are rather nice. They should at least have to take a quiz to prove that they have read the tutorial before they get their clothes. That way, some might actually learn not to be complete asshats.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:12 pm
i don't like it because it's too much, and as such removes the incentive to participate to earn gold to buy outfits, like i said in much more long-winded terms in the other thread.
i don't see why they had to give them 4 pairs of shoes and everything else - one would have been MORE than enough.
i too am an old fogey who was similarly irked when they started giving away peasant clothes for free JUST for joining up, but on the other hand they were crazy cheap anyway and they had an image of newness and poverty so i got over that. but this is overkill. i can see giving one of the outfits in the starter set - even THAT is a little much - but 4 DIFFERENT ones? WHY?
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:51 am
xd
You guys crack me up. A bunch of crochety ol' farts is what ye sound like.
"IN MY DAY WE HAD TO WALK 15 MILES EACH DAY TO POST!
UPHILL!
BOTH WAYS!
....Don't argue with me, boy, or I'll get my whipping stick stare "
Seriously, it's not like they're handing out old donation items for free. It's a bunch of new crap so they don't need to wear rags and perhaps all the *cough* elitists *cough* won't be like "Pfft, b***h, don't talk to me in rags, your opinion values less because you can't play pretty princess dress me up with clothes as cool as mine talk2hand "
I mean, things change. Sheeyat. Back in the day, no free peasant dresses.
Back in the day, there were no donation letters.
Back in the day, the first letter nobody even knew they were getting.
Back in the day, you could only donate to get two letters max, and needed to make mules to buy more.
Back in the day, the Romani and Tuxedo sets were cool ( And still are, shut up! crying )
s**t changes, but this one doesn't seem to be directly a moneymaking scheme like the donation letter opening date was. This seems to be a move that, while admittedly it may keep new members around longer and inadvertantly lead to more donations, is actually dedicated to making members happy for no cost. It's a good change. And it doesn't hurt anyone.
Buuut hey, carry on. emo
Love these new picture thingies whee wahmbulance
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:06 pm
Setz, you crack me up. =)
Anybody else notice you can buy all the starter set clothes in Barton for 2 gold apiece?
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:09 pm
Hey Pasta Setz, you crack me up. =)
Anybody else notice you can buy all the starter set clothes in Barton for 2 gold apiece? Yup, I went to look after the Announcement. xp *chuckles at people selling them in Marketplace for (gasp!) two digits*
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:12 pm
Soranoko Hey Pasta Setz, you crack me up. =)
Anybody else notice you can buy all the starter set clothes in Barton for 2 gold apiece? Yup, I went to look after the Announcement. xp *chuckles at people selling them in Marketplace for (gasp!) two digits*
I'm one of those bad people that stopped reading the announcements because they rarely tell me anything I need to know.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:13 pm
Yes, I did notice that before, Pasta.
Setz- Romani and Tuxedo sets still cool, eh?
You're like on of those balding guys who so desperately tries to hold on to his hair.
heart
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:19 pm
Hey Pasta Soranoko Hey Pasta Setz, you crack me up. =)
Anybody else notice you can buy all the starter set clothes in Barton for 2 gold apiece? Yup, I went to look after the Announcement. xp *chuckles at people selling them in Marketplace for (gasp!) two digits*
I'm one of those bad people that stopped reading the announcements because they rarely tell me anything I need to know.I read them to get the annoying red font off the index page.. ...didn't work this time. emo
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:31 pm
Really, Setz, I wouldn't give a damn if they actually had to take the tutorial to get the items. It pisses me off because all they have to do is click "skip" twice. So all of the idiots who don't know how the ******** to use Gaia or how to act on a forum will be encouraged to stay because they got 4 sets of clothes and a houseful of furniture for free. Before, a lot would just quit because Gaia was "too hard."
If they had to answer a quiz and score a certain percentage to prove they read the tutorial before getting their clothes, I'd be all for it. It would cut down on all the stupid questions if people could get items for KNOWING how to use the site.
We all know that Gaia has been HEAVILY influenced by RO. I doubt I need to explain to most of you, but in RO, there is an optional tutorial. You can opt not to take it, but if you do, you'll miss out on the chance to win a few simple starting items and to get a headstart on leveling.
This tutorial, however, makes it NECESSARY to read what the NPC is telling you, because you'll be asked a question on it. If you get the question right, you get an item, if you answer wrong you get nothing. Then they take you to a "training field" with low-level monsters which you must cross to reach your class' city.
That is why among the idiots abounding on RO yelling "lol rez plz" and "zeny plz" you almost NEVER hear somebody asking about the basic elements of gameplay. IMAGINE how much work it would cut down on for mods and people answering questions in the Q&F if you could get FREE ITEMS from reading the tutorial.
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:43 pm
Soranoko Hey Pasta Soranoko Hey Pasta Setz, you crack me up. =)
Anybody else notice you can buy all the starter set clothes in Barton for 2 gold apiece? Yup, I went to look after the Announcement. xp *chuckles at people selling them in Marketplace for (gasp!) two digits*
I'm one of those bad people that stopped reading the announcements because they rarely tell me anything I need to know.I read them to get the annoying red font off the index page.. ...didn't work this time. emo
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Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm
I think they get the Starter Sets so they look and feel richer. (Even though they're not, at all.) The peasent clothes were grey and had holes in them, because of that reason, they were probably bombared with richer people calling them "newbs" and left the site because of it. Since some of the richer users of Gaia are wearing the Starter Set items as well, the new people may feel as if they are in the richer users' divisions.
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:53 pm
Hey Pasta Setz, you crack me up. =)
Anybody else notice you can buy all the starter set clothes in Barton for 2 gold apiece?
Shows how stupid people are, not knowing what things are worth....and about what Pyre said, not having much to chose from, I wouldn't know as I haven't been around that long.
Alas....Gaia shall never be the same.
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