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 Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:31 pm
Everyones backdash in this game has invincibility you should use them.
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:04 pm
AminorThreat Kura X The Slayer Bite infinite is pretty useless really. If the opponent knows it's coming then they can mash out of it real fast. That's why I torture n00bs with it. xp Anyways. The Jam infinite on Potempkin was only possible in GGX through the Faultless defense Cancel glitch. They took that out and you can't really do it properly anymore. You don't know what you are talking about, with the slayer bite infinite in xx you cancel a dash midway into commandthrow by jump cancelling basically it works in this order.(A dash can be cancelled into a jump and the first part of a jump frame can be cancelled into a move, thus if you do the motion*LOOK AT YOUR NUMBER PAD ON YOUR KEYBOARD*6632147hs You get the dash out it buffers into the half circle back you get a jump and the hs is hit before a jump is visable to come out. THIS ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE THE LOOP FLAWLESS AND NOT ALLOW YOUR OPPENENT OUT. FDC is taken out mostly except for some stuff that works for gameplay like with faust/chipp(nothing comboable.) Jams infinite works with instant airdash punches into hs. Sorry. crying ooookay...that's waay too much work for a simple bite. What happened to the good old days when people weren't crazy about glitches and frame rate in fighting games? ...but I'm pretty sure that everyone's backdash does NOT have invincibility. If that was true, you could backdash through Alpha Blades. I know for sure that they can dodge lows like I-no's 'Stroke the Big Tree' move. It's a given that Slayer's backdash gives him some invincibility, but it shouldn't be whored.
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:16 pm
Um, what is the matter with learning about your characters? Just because in america they don't tell us jack about a game when it's released doesn't mean we should then read the japanese books. EVERYONE DOES have backdash invincibility, you can't backdash out of that because of how many active hitting frames there are in an alpha blade.
That is not a glitch, that is how the system works to make it easier for some people to do moves. If it was so strict that you jumped instantly etc, then it would be alot harder to do things and jump abuse would be easy.
Also, why shouldn't it be 'whored'? If you don't know how to punish something why shouldn't I keep using it till you learn how? If you read the frame data on the links I posted you will see that everyone has some invincibility frames in part of their backdash. Slayer can abuse this like roll cancelling though by carrying invincibility frames from cancelling a dash into a move.
If you have any questions about anything please ask, I am not afraid to answer anything about this game.
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:35 pm
Dude, I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, I'm just relaying the info as it was told to me when i heard about it. There's nothing wrong with learning about your character, just it kinda sickens me to the point where players abuse flaws in games to get where they want. There's so much craving for victory that it makes the game not fun to play anymore. I'm a recovering win-a-holic, I know firsthand what's that's like on both sides iof the coin.
When I say Slayer's back dashed shouldn't be whored I mean that you shouldn't depend your life on it. It's a good move but it isn't godly, it can be punised if used improperly--I know from experience. My brother uses Axl JUST for his counterattack moves. He's learned to mix up his game a bit now but before that was the only thing he ever did. He 'whored' the move lie it was the best thing in the world and I punish him when he trips up.
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:39 pm
Kura X Dude, I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, I'm just relaying the info as it was told to me when i heard about it. There's nothing wrong with learning about your character, just it kinda sickens me to the point where players abuse flaws in games to get where they want. There's so much craving for victory that it makes the game not fun to play anymore. I'm a recovering win-a-holic, I know firsthand what's that's like on both sides iof the coin. When I say Slayer's back dashed shouldn't be whored I mean that you shouldn't depend your life on it. It's a good move but it isn't godly, it can be punised if used improperly--I know from experience. My brother uses Axl JUST for his counterattack moves. He's learned to mix up his game a bit now but before that was the only thing he ever did. He 'whored' the move lie it was the best thing in the world and I punish him when he trips up. I am not trying toi start a fight but just starting conversation, um when I asked about whoring I was just confirming for that fact that you know that all moves can be punished. There are the people who have no clue and if they consider a move "cheap" they don't want anyone doing it. I crave victory but I also crave understanding and when your oppenents put the same effort into playing it makes the competition that much better. For me I am know as one of the laziest players in the scene, if I practiced more I would be extremely solid technically wise but this is why you don't see me winning tourneys with eddie. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:44 pm
AminorThreat I am not trying toi start a fight but just starting conversation, um when I asked about whoring I was just confirming for that fact that you know that all moves can be punished. There are the people who have no clue and if they consider a move "cheap" they don't want anyone doing it. I crave victory but I also crave understanding and when your oppenents put the same effort into playing it makes the competition that much better. For me I am know as one of the laziest players in the scene, if I practiced more I would be extremely solid technically wise but this is why you don't see me winning tourneys with eddie. sweatdrop Mah, I don't bother to enter tourneys. To me, Tourneys just show exactly how many people use the same characters (Sol/Ky/Faust/Johnny/whoever) just to win. Tell me a tale of a May player winning a tournament and I will sign up for the next one. xd And I thought I was lazy, the only practice i get is when i play other people.
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:46 pm
Kura X AminorThreat I am not trying toi start a fight but just starting conversation, um when I asked about whoring I was just confirming for that fact that you know that all moves can be punished. There are the people who have no clue and if they consider a move "cheap" they don't want anyone doing it. I crave victory but I also crave understanding and when your oppenents put the same effort into playing it makes the competition that much better. For me I am know as one of the laziest players in the scene, if I practiced more I would be extremely solid technically wise but this is why you don't see me winning tourneys with eddie. sweatdrop Mah, I don't bother to enter tourneys. To me, Tourneys just show exactly how many people use the same characters (Sol/Ky/Faust/Johnny/whoever) just to win. Tell me a tale of a May player winning a tournament and I will sign up for the next one. xd And I thought I was lazy, the only practice i get is when i play other people. May is good, I have seen May win tourneys before. I got 2nd at the last tourney using zappa, ggxx isn't a game where tiers take a huge part into(except zappa vs slayer matchup OMFG I HATE THAT.)
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:54 pm
AminorThreat May is good, I have seen May win tourneys before. I got 2nd at the last tourney using zappa, ggxx isn't a game where tiers take a huge part into(except zappa vs slayer matchup OMFG I HATE THAT.) Well there's some hope in this victory-craving world after all. #reload comes out in like 2-3 days here. Once I get my copy I'll practice so i can see where i can go in the next tourney using Jam. xd
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:57 pm
Kura X AminorThreat May is good, I have seen May win tourneys before. I got 2nd at the last tourney using zappa, ggxx isn't a game where tiers take a huge part into(except zappa vs slayer matchup OMFG I HATE THAT.) Well there's some hope in this victory-craving world after all. #reload comes out in like 2-3 days here. Once I get my copy I'll practice so i can see where i can go in the next tourney using Jam. xd You'll be tier whoring yourself then. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:02 pm
AminorThreat Kura X AminorThreat May is good, I have seen May win tourneys before. I got 2nd at the last tourney using zappa, ggxx isn't a game where tiers take a huge part into(except zappa vs slayer matchup OMFG I HATE THAT.) Well there's some hope in this victory-craving world after all. #reload comes out in like 2-3 days here. Once I get my copy I'll practice so i can see where i can go in the next tourney using Jam. xd You'll be tier whoring yourself then. 3nodding Coincidence and purposly picking the character just to win are two different concepts blaugh
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:05 pm
Keep telling yourself that.... blaugh
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:06 pm
AminorThreat Keep telling yourself that.... blaugh I'm a Jam fan since X so I'll keep usin her. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:10 pm
I play who I feel like it, it has been zappa lately but may is my next project. I started xx playing faust, I liked poking since I am a big sf player so I picked him up. My next two characters were buri/sol since I am a dragon punch fan, I never really liked Ky and Ky's combos and setups just seemed too simplistic. I then started playing axl/millia and now have made it onto zappa. I would just learn any character in this game and play random if I could not procrastinate so much but it is very hard for me to get myself to go in training mode and practice combos/setups. I don't hold anything against anyone for picking any character though, especially in XX if I can't win a matchup it is my own fault.
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:46 am
I wish my arcade would have an Isuka tournament. I bet I could have a good chance of winning. Nobody ALWAYS wins, but my ratio is about...oh...I'd say 8 to 1. I have seriously b***h slapped some people with Slayer and Baiken
Alas, there is no tournament...and no chance for me to win cash prizes crying
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:51 am
I can do Sol's dust loop
here's in example 6+HS 236+P, jump K D, double jump wait a sec S D, land, high jump, dust wait a sec D, land jump S D, double jump S D 623+HS 214+K land then OTG 2+K s S
- there you go you just stole atleast half there life
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