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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 5:52 am


Kyotsuke Akihime
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Another way to look at it is Biological gender and mental gender. 3nodding Sometimes the same, sometimes different.


Excuse me for wondering, but what defines mental gender?

Sorry I ask so many questions. I was born and raised in the south, so a lot of this information is unfamiliar to me. But let's see if you can teach this old-fashioned dog some new tricks.

It's how you think. As an example:

There is a fallen tree blocking the road. If your first thought is to get some chains out of the back of you vehicle and try to move it yourself, your mental state is more likely male, if you think to call for someone who is actually equipped to deal with it and wait for them, probably female. (And if you think to blow it up with dynamite, you're probably me.)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:03 am


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Another way to look at it is Biological gender and mental gender. 3nodding Sometimes the same, sometimes different.
that makes sense.

You make sense. emotion_kirakira
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:31 pm


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It's how you think. As an example:

There is a fallen tree blocking the road. If your first thought is to get some chains out of the back of you vehicle and try to move it yourself, your mental state is more likely male, if you think to call for someone who is actually equipped to deal with it and wait for them, probably female. (And if you think to blow it up with dynamite, you're probably me.)


"most likely"?

Can a woman want to move the tree with their vehicle? Can a man call for someone else? Is there no definite way to know someone's mental gender?

What if someone with an XY chromosome thinks very masculine, but calls themself a woman? What does that make them?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:38 am


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Another way to look at it is Biological gender and mental gender. 3nodding Sometimes the same, sometimes different.
that makes sense.

You make sense. emotion_kirakira
i google xp

I KNEW IT! rofl

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:43 am


Kyotsuke Akihime
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It's how you think. As an example:

There is a fallen tree blocking the road. If your first thought is to get some chains out of the back of you vehicle and try to move it yourself, your mental state is more likely male, if you think to call for someone who is actually equipped to deal with it and wait for them, probably female. (And if you think to blow it up with dynamite, you're probably me.)


"most likely"?

Can a woman want to move the tree with their vehicle? Can a man call for someone else? Is there no definite way to know someone's mental gender?

What if someone with an XY chromosome thinks very masculine, but calls themself a woman? What does that make them?

Yes, a woman can try to move it herself and a man can ask for help. That's why I didn't say always. A lot of men think in a similar fashion to each other, but not all. A lot of women do the same. EVERYONE is different, which is why not everyone's mental gender matches their biological.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:45 am


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Yes, a woman can try to move it herself and a man can ask for help. That's why I didn't say always. A lot of men think in a similar fashion to each other, but not all. A lot of women do the same. EVERYONE is different, which is why not everyone's mental gender matches their biological.


So is there a definite way to tell someone's mental gender?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:49 am


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Yes, a woman can try to move it herself and a man can ask for help. That's why I didn't say always. A lot of men think in a similar fashion to each other, but not all. A lot of women do the same. EVERYONE is different, which is why not everyone's mental gender matches their biological.


So is there a definite way to tell someone's mental gender?

Just whatever feels right to the individual. One thing you could try is imagining yourself physically as each gender in turn (Gender fluid and non-binary included.) and think about if it makes you sad or happy to imagine yourself that way.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:49 am


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So is there a definite way to tell someone's mental gender?

Just whatever feels right to the individual. One thing you could try is imagining yourself physically as each gender in turn (Gender fluid and non-binary included.) and think about if it makes you sad or happy to imagine yourself that way.


Imagine myself how? Imagine myself as each physical gender? See which one feels right to me? Does that help indicate my mental one?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:52 am


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So is there a definite way to tell someone's mental gender?

Just whatever feels right to the individual. One thing you could try is imagining yourself physically as each gender in turn (Gender fluid and non-binary included.) and think about if it makes you sad or happy to imagine yourself that way.


Imagine myself how? Imagine myself as each physical gender? See which one feels right to me? Does that help indicate my mental one?

Yes. As if you had been born that gender physically in the hypothetical situation. If both feel right, gender fluid, if neither feels right, non-binary, and if only one feels comfortable, that should be pretty straightforward.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:14 am


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Yes. As if you had been born that gender physically in the hypothetical situation. If both feel right, gender fluid, if neither feels right, non-binary, and if only one feels comfortable, that should be pretty straightforward.


I don't need to imagine to know that I hate being male. That one DEFINITELY doesn't feel right. ... It's just too bad the physical world disagrees with me.

As for female, it's like a... "forbidden happiness". This one feels right to me, but I can't confidently say "I'm female on the inside" when surrounded by physical females. It's hard to think of myself as one of them when I'm being out-womaned.

If only I were physically female. Why couldn't we choose our sexes at birth?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:25 pm


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Yes. As if you had been born that gender physically in the hypothetical situation. If both feel right, gender fluid, if neither feels right, non-binary, and if only one feels comfortable, that should be pretty straightforward.


I don't need to imagine to know that I hate being male. That one DEFINITELY doesn't feel right. ... It's just too bad the physical world disagrees with me.

As for female, it's like a... "forbidden happiness". This one feels right to me, but I can't confidently say "I'm female on the inside" when surrounded by physical females. It's hard to think of myself as one of them when I'm being out-womaned.

If only I were physically female. Why couldn't we choose our sexes at birth?

It would be rather convenient if humans were a hermaphroditic species that could swap our genitalia at will. Oh well.

It's not a competition, try to not to be so hard on yourself for being different than other women. I hope you are able to be comfortable with yourself someday.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:18 pm


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other women


Are you implying that I'm also a woman?

Wow. That's so... nice of you. I'M SO HAPPY, I'M ACTUALLY CRYING TEARS OF JOY! crying

heart It fills my heart with the greatest joys I've ever known to be acknowledged as a female. Just why is that? heart

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:11 am


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other women


Are you implying that I'm also a woman?

Wow. That's so... nice of you. I'M SO HAPPY, I'M ACTUALLY CRYING TEARS OF JOY! crying

heart It fills my heart with the greatest joys I've ever known to be acknowledged as a female. Just why is that? heart

Aww, wish I could give you a hug in person. whee Your personality has always struck me as female, and based on how happy you are from that, I think it's safe to say you definitely feel that way, too.

As for why you are happy... Acceptance as you are is such a simple thing, but is actually not as common as you would think. Most of the world wants other people to conform to what they think is right, not see it as it already is and embrace it.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:55 am


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Acceptance as you are is such a simple thing, but is actually not as common as you would think. Most of the world wants other people to conform to what they think is right, not see it as it already is and embrace it.


Now that you bring that up, I have something to confess, just to clear my conscience.

I knew I was uncomfortable as a male be for an awful long time, but I found it irrelevant to physical biology. I may not have liked it, but I thought that's how reality works. I thought there was no use in saying I was female.

I would see people calling themselves transgender, and scoff at them. I would denounce them all as foolish. I may have been in their shoes, but I thought that the truth mattered more than what made them comfortable. It was for that, that I became hated. I was known for being intolerant.

But who said that being the messenger of dissent made me happy? I'm just as uncomfortable with my sex as all of the others were. I often wished I could believe what they did. So I made this thread, hoping someone would change my mind about how gender works.

I know I can't be forgiven by those who I've hurt in my past. But I just want to start anew with those who I haven't hurt. I was hoping that I could accept, and be accepted back. Who knows if that'll ever happen though?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:15 pm


Kyotsuke Akihime
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Acceptance as you are is such a simple thing, but is actually not as common as you would think. Most of the world wants other people to conform to what they think is right, not see it as it already is and embrace it.


Now that you bring that up, I have something to confess, just to clear my conscience.

I knew I was uncomfortable as a male be for an awful long time, but I found it irrelevant to physical biology. I may not have liked it, but I thought that's how reality works. I thought there was no use in saying I was female.

I would see people calling themselves transgender, and scoff at them. I would denounce them all as foolish. I may have been in their shoes, but I thought that the truth mattered more than what made them comfortable. It was for that, that I became hated. I was known for being intolerant.

But who said that being the messenger of dissent made me happy? I'm just as uncomfortable with my sex as all of the others were. I often wished I could believe what they did. So I made this thread, hoping someone would change my mind about how gender works.

I know I can't be forgiven by those who I've hurt in my past. But I just want to start anew with those who I haven't hurt. I was hoping that I could accept, and be accepted back. Who knows if that'll ever happen though?

I accept you as you are. 3nodding And although you can't change the past, it takes courage to change your ways for the future.
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