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LadySnark

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:54 pm


MairuiMarie
I know getting used to a tablet can be tricky, the hand moves but you can't see what you are drawing in your lap or on the desk. It feels strange to draw one place and have it show up in another.
One trick that may help speed up the process which is a popular sketch technique for figure drawers is to not even look at your paper at all. Just keep your hand moving to draw the basic shapes and gesture for two to five minutes.
Try it out with paper first for a bit, see how it goes.
It helped my brain fill the disconnect gap between tablet and my screen.
Muscle memory of what a smooth line or gesture is do the work for me.


Do you mean like if I were drawing someone standing in front of me to keep my eyes on them while I sketched instead of looking at my paper?

Because if so, I know about that technique...but I forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me! I'll try to be more careful of that next time.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:57 pm


Amandelie


Thanks for the advice! I went ahead and closed the lines like you suggested and I'll be sure to keep that in mind in the future.

And interesting about 'petting lines'. I'd never heard that before and I've always sketched that way. But I can see what you mean. I'll try to do that next time.

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LadySnark

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:09 am


My Little Llama WIP: Because I'm bored and they are cute and fun to draw. I'm not sure how I'll color it 0_o

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:10 am


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I'm a bit late to this party but oh well!

Now you've got a nice strong elf there all casual like with her axe.

What could use work though is her anatomy and really making her have some form.

Behold the three main steps!
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Now with your initial sketch you seem to have gone straight for drawing with the clothes already on the body - it's important that when you're at the planning stage that you really focus on the body that will be wearing those clothes. If you get proportions wrong at the start and don't catch it, they'll stick throughout the rest of the drawing and may cause issues down the track when it will be a lot harder to make changes!

At the planning stage, really think about the pose and the body and how it is a 3D object. Think of the various parts that stick together and how they do it. Don't be afraid to get in front of a mirror and mimic the pose to see how things bend!

I think an important part of this planning stage is also determining the 'middle' of the body and there can be two! I use the spine as well as an invisible line down from between the collar bone to the belly button and by having those two in you can already sort of see some 'space' that would indicate the width of your character.

When you hit the 'Define' stage, that's when you smooth those boxy lines - the body is made of both curved and straight lines and using them will help make the body seem more natural and provide more form. This is a good lil tute that can show that 'curves' tend to be muscle and 'straight' tends to be where the bone is.

Lastly, when you're happy with the body you can 'Accessorise' it by putting on the fancy clothes etc.

In this case that middle line of the body helps determine where the connector from the collar of her top flows down into the bodice. Another thing I would point out is that the curve line is a tad odd - it more implies that the fabric is oddly cut. If it's a straight across top then it should be the same and follow the line of the torso all across the top of the breasts - which brings me to my next image which might help with that.

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It's just another way of thinking of them in 'planes' which actually does help when you think about it from a lighting point of view because you know the 'top' will catch the light and below will be shadowed and the top plane is sort of how your tshirt would sit across them anyway - even tight across tops tend to have the fabric stretch straight across rather than conforming to each breast separately.

Hopefully that wasn't too much fluffling around and text @_@ I think you've got some strong basic skills going and it's just a matter of pushing what you have and really thinking about the form of what you're drawing!

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LadySnark

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:28 pm


HitokiriChibi


Holy s**t, this is the best thing ever! Thanks! I do admit I have some issues with anatomy, particularly anatomy on the tablet so all that stuff you just showed me is really helpful. I usually draw on paper and don't really do all that prep work because it shows, so I've learned to kind of just do it all in one shot.

The elf was actually me trying to re-draw something I drew on paper and kind of....failed...but you can see the pose I was going for. Its a little more natural looking if you ask me...and her proportions look better. She is kind of angular and boxy, but that was intentional.

Here is the original:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:08 am


Yep I know how it is with traditional and how it can get messy very quickly ^^

But while you're still learning it's still very important to do that ground work - even if it's on a separate piece of paper that you can refer back to and keep it in perspective as you work on your good copy.

There's also no reason for you to make the full jump into digital - if you're more comfortable doing things traditionally then by all means you can do the rough as a pencil sketch, scan it in and then line it digitally. Or you could even line it traditionally then scan it and only colour digitally.

There seem to be a lot of people who, once they get a tablet, want to make a full transition straight away to digital but there are so many things that can mix both mediums and turn out quite nicely ^^

I'll throw a Sakimichan example - she played around for a bit doing these traditional sketches and then would scan them and digitally add the colour. So it would be a similar thing ^^

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LadySnark

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:25 am


HitokiriChibi


I'm not exactly jumping right into my tablet. I've been doing the draw-scan-color method for a couple years, I'd just kind of stopped drawing all together for a little bit so it's been a long while since I'd been drawing, let alone touching a tablet. Anyway, around I picked it back up lately and kind of migrated back towards my tablet, only this time I don't have a working scanner. I can take pictures with my phone, but they're crummy quality and usually have a big giant shadow right above them from my hand.

So anyway, my point is that I am trying to make a full transition to my tablet, but its been a long time coming, not just from over excitement 3nodding

I will however, try and see how drawing it trad. and then lining it digitally will work out. That will be interesting.

You know the really funny thing though?
I can copy a face or pose anatomically correct if its from a referance, but the second I try to add different elements it goes all wonky. Like, the elf for example: I posed in the mirror to figure out how she was standing in the middle, but even so she's still a little wonky. If I'd drawn me posing in front of a mirror, everything would have been fine, but since I wanted an elf with an axe.....

Anyway, I really just draw for fun, so its nice to see that I'm progressing even if its really slow. But don't take that to mean I'm not hungrily gulping down ever bit of advice you give me. Keep it coming! I'll definitely implement it next time I sit down at my desk!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:29 am


Sorcerer This is a traditional drawing that I did on paper a month or two back that I've been meaning to color. The lines are kind of sloppy because apparently tracing is much harder than you'd think, and the coloring could be better but I was rushing through it.

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LadySnark

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HitokiriChibi
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:09 pm


Hi hi! Sorry it's taken me awhile to post here again ^^;

The sorcerer pic is cool - the pose and idea are really dramatic and I like the details on the end of her staff biggrin

There are a few things I'd like to point out though that will hopefully help you out anatomy wise wink

1) The Neck. The neck is a column that is generally straight (unless you are actually tilting it etc) and only really curves once it hits that muscle that leads into your shoulders. Her neck on her right side curves dramatically outwards when it should actually be more like the line of her neck on her left side.

2) The Head. Foreshortening is a tricky beast and I personally am horrible at doing extreme angles so instead I shall provide some handy youtube links that show you how to construct the head and deal with it at those pesky angles! Part 1 and Part 2 (part 2 is the one that deals with the head tilting up similar to what you were going for).

3) Hands. I actually have a mirror on my desk that I use to look at my hands etc when drawing so I can get an idea on how to draw things - after all they are attached and making a reference is as simple as picking something up and observing what the hand is doing in that pose. That being said in the Resources section I found the following in some of the Hand References that are similar to the pose of her grasping her staff.
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Reference 2 (2nd from the top on the right, flipped around would be close to your pose, just need to change the angle)

The following is a reference for the hand up in the air. Namely the hand that's on the right in the 2nd row, you just have to rotate it around and I think it would be exactly what that hand would be doing.
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4) Pose. I have to admit I'm unsure of how her body is turned in this picture. Originally I thought her upper torso was facing straight forward and that her hips were turned so that her left hip was higher. That felt a bit awkward and I think it might have worked a bit better and smoother if her torso was turned more to her right. BUT if you were adamant it was to be a frontal shot or something I can try to do up another sketch.
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5) Clothing. Just a few tips to remember - unless she has an asymmetrical jacket (which she very well could have) both sides of the jacket should be the same length, even if one side is blowing away in the wind.
With the collar it's a good idea to remember they are there to wrap around the neck - as such they are generally made close to and mimic the shape of the base of the neck.
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And there was one more thing that confused me about what way her torso was facing - the sleeve of the arm holding her staff. It's drawn in a way that indicates it's actually more forward than her torso. In which case it feels like she's really twisted around - her torso facing her raised arm while her hips are facing her staff - which is not a very comfortable pose to be in especially with the raised hip too.

But yes - just some things I wanted to point out. I understand this was something you drew a few months back but as always I think it's a good idea to take a step back and think about what you want the body to be doing and then sketch it out, perhaps even adopt the pose and see how comfortable and natural it feels.

Keep up the good work though and good job with the attention to details with the wood of her staff and the pattern on the belt biggrin I actually really do like how you've done the legs with the hip cocked like that - has a good strong attitude to it ^-^
PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:43 pm


I've been so busy I haven't had time to draw in a long while.

My Painttool SAI expired so I'm inbetween programs right now while I look for another one I can try out or buy, but I don't have a lot of money so it definitely needs to be one of the cheaper ones.

Anyway, I sat down and did some little doodles in my sketchbook the other day (nothing serious, just doodles) and thought I'd upload them so yall know I'm not completely slacking (even though I pretty much am).

BEHOLD!
I was messing around with merging animals with the characteristics of other living things.


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I also have some concept drawings for some characters in my novel that I will upload probably tomorrow-ish.

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