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 Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:05 pm
gayzilla See multiple previous entries.
Many people from the gay culture find that they can live happily without surgery, due to the culture they live in, which embraces gender diversity. This allows people to be feminine and yet still have male anatomy. In my case, I do not live in such a culture, however I do live in the most progressive midwestern state, in an urban area, and identify as female as a default (hiding my anatomy when necessary). You have to remember that in other cultures, such as more rural areas, like Iowa where I grew up, gender diversity is greatly frowned upon. The diversity we enjoy in urban climates will not spread to these rural areas for up to 50 years if not longer. Therefore, we all must make decisions as to how to live our lives in each of our own environments.
Personally, I believe that in an ideal world (which is impossible of course), there would be no need for sex reassignment surgery, except for people who 100% truly believe it is the genitals that are the problem. However even in gay culture, people alter their appearance to show their inner psychological gender (via makeup, wigs, and even hormones). Sex reassignment surgery is no different to me than someone who can't live without getting piercings, getting tattoos, dying your hair, or using prosthetic limbs. These are all decisions that effect the way people view your personality, even though they are actions or physical traits. Many amputees want to get the most realistic working prosthetics to blend into society, while many athletic amputees want to get the latest bionic gear, in some cases making them even BETTER athletes than their competitors (i.e. the climber with the awesome climbing pick, or the runner with the high-tech polymer spring absorption leg). Or some don't use prosthetics at all. Have you ever heard of the swimmer with no arms (Igor Plotnikov)?
I believe it is each our own decision whether to embrace what we have or embrace what we have the potential for. Celebrate your body. If that means change it, then go for it! If it means leave it as intact and possible, then great! I personally have gone through hormones and do not regret it at all, even though my libido functions differently. I embrace the different function of libido (just means sex is longer!) and I love my breasts! And yet, I will never have my body pierced or tattooed. I believe my body is my sanctuary, which means I get to decorate or not decorate it as I choose.
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:03 pm
Jameta gayzilla crescentdarklight ...You didn't hurt my feelings. But I do have to say that it has nothing to do with my clothes or the way I look. I feel like a woman more then a man emotionally and to fix that void I want to make the change. With me being who I'am spiritually, I felt it is the right choice to make. It has nothing to do with what I wear. It effects my life in such a way it makes me unhappy to be this way because it makes me feel like Im something im not. Then I need to ask you to explain further what you mean by "...feel like a woman more then a man emotionally" What does a woman feel like emotionally and how do you define that. And since you are not a woman, how do you know what they are supposed to feel like. Maybe your just human. We are all damaged little beings trying to make our way in a large and confusing universe. As far as I know, there is no universal definition of what a women is supposed to act and feel llike, You don't need to vandalize your body to find happiness, that comes from within your mind. at the very least, you should become an adult first. I wouldn't consider this "vanadalizing"; prostitution is more like vandalizing. It's a comfort thing. Consider if you were born with an abnormality, which made you uncomfortable, that could be changed. For some individuals, one can't just "deal with it"; they need to make that physical step. It may also be related to changes in religion and spirituality- though some are born Christians, the practices might not be comfortable, and one may need to make such a change. And mental, emotional, and spiritual changes can be just as drastic as physical. Exactly, thank you.
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:08 pm
jessicamundi gayzilla See multiple previous entries.
Many people from the gay culture find that they can live happily without surgery, due to the culture they live in, which embraces gender diversity. This allows people to be feminine and yet still have male anatomy. In my case, I do not live in such a culture, however I do live in the most progressive midwestern state, in an urban area, and identify as female as a default (hiding my anatomy when necessary). You have to remember that in other cultures, such as more rural areas, like Iowa where I grew up, gender diversity is greatly frowned upon. The diversity we enjoy in urban climates will not spread to these rural areas for up to 50 years if not longer. Therefore, we all must make decisions as to how to live our lives in each of our own environments.
Personally, I believe that in an ideal world (which is impossible of course), there would be no need for sex reassignment surgery, except for people who 100% truly believe it is the genitals that are the problem. However even in gay culture, people alter their appearance to show their inner psychological gender (via makeup, wigs, and even hormones). Sex reassignment surgery is no different to me than someone who can't live without getting piercings, getting tattoos, dying your hair, or using prosthetic limbs. These are all decisions that effect the way people view your personality, even though they are actions or physical traits. Many amputees want to get the most realistic working prosthetics to blend into society, while many athletic amputees want to get the latest bionic gear, in some cases making them even BETTER athletes than their competitors (i.e. the climber with the awesome climbing pick, or the runner with the high-tech polymer spring absorption leg). Or some don't use prosthetics at all. Have you ever heard of the swimmer with no arms (Igor Plotnikov)?
I believe it is each our own decision whether to embrace what we have or embrace what we have the potential for. Celebrate your body. If that means change it, then go for it! If it means leave it as intact and possible, then great! I personally have gone through hormones and do not regret it at all, even though my libido functions differently. I embrace the different function of libido (just means sex is longer!) and I love my breasts! And yet, I will never have my body pierced or tattooed. I believe my body is my sanctuary, which means I get to decorate or not decorate it as I choose.Very well said thanks for your support.
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:25 pm
gayzilla crescentdarklight ...You didn't hurt my feelings. But I do have to say that it has nothing to do with my clothes or the way I look. I feel like a woman more then a man emotionally and to fix that void I want to make the change. With me being who I'am spiritually, I felt it is the right choice to make. It has nothing to do with what I wear. It effects my life in such a way it makes me unhappy to be this way because it makes me feel like Im something im not. Then I need to ask you to explain further what you mean by "...feel like a woman more then a man emotionally" What does a woman feel like emotionally and how do you define that. And since you are not a woman, how do you know what they are supposed to feel like. Maybe your just human. We are all damaged little beings trying to make our way in a large and confusing universe. As far as I know, there is no universal definition of what a women is supposed to act and feel llike, You don't need to vandalize your body to find happiness, that comes from within your mind. at the very least, you should become an adult first. I feel that I have no need to explain my emotions to other people and that I shouldn't have to explain to anyone to reach their prefrances. I will say this though, I'am a very spiritual person, my parents are against this as you are but you know what it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks because its my choice to make this transition so that I may feel better about my self. The people that support this choice I cherish because I know it is not always accepted. Even if its not, no one has the right to judge me for what I choose to do. This is the way I feel and just because its not how you feel doesn't mean its completly wrong. To me this change can help me become a better person. I feel that the soul its self has made this choice because at first I wasn't to happy about thinking it but now its all different. I'am not afraid of discrimination or judgment from humans, your opinions that hurt others mean nothing and it only means your weak because you can't accept that is how some people are. I don't think that I "need" to become an adult because by making this choice I'am taking control of my life. I have many people behind me on this choice and there are very few who are not with me but nevertheless, you will not force me to put out how I feel for the sake to proove what its like to be a woman. How I know, is cuz I was raised around woman, I also have more woman friends then guy friends. Even the moms I'am friends with are okay with it and have no problem with my choice because they care for me no matter what I choose. This guild is about being friends and trying to get along no matter the religious prefrace. I don't see whats wrong with posting something that will effect my entire life. Just because something doesn't fit your liking doesn't mean that its a bad or wrong thing. This choice is not for everyone, it just depends on the person, however it would be the right choice for some who feel as I do. I respect your opinion even though it is disrimitory to the people like my self but, you will not make me explain my feelings toward you since your completly against it.
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:00 pm
Let me ask you this then, why do you hate your p***s so much?
(I'm not against anyones choices, nor do I judge anyone for them, I just think you will regret it, by then it will be too late. try turning 25 first. that's not too much of a commitment.)
Well, you have to live 2 years as a woman anyway. but please try to answer my above question, that is the main part I don't understand.
and remember, you will not become a female, you will just look more like one. An overweight preson can have a stomach staple or lyposuction but they will still have the issues that got them overweight in the first place.
learn to love your p***s, it's a wonderful thing. Please save the p***s.
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:14 pm
Dude, I'm uncoomfortable with Christianity as it stands, but I don't hate it. This isn't an issue of love or hate- it's an issue of comfort. Again, if someone is born with something like an extra toe, and it makes them severely uncomfortable, they may choose to have it removed. The only special thing about the male genitals is that they are part of the reproductive system.
And while genes do play an important part in what we are, they are not the only factor. After birth and peburty, nature pretty much leaves things up to nurture.
What really matters is the who, not what, anyways. How we display ourselves shows a lot about both; in the matter of a sex change, the physical will outweight the genetic. True, it will always be there. But like a bad memory, it can either be dwelled upon or it can be learned from, with happier memories taking more significant roles.
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Time-traveling Shapeshifter
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:43 pm
gayzilla Let me ask you this then, why do you hate your p***s so much? (I'm not against anyones choices, nor do I judge anyone for them, I just think you will regret it, by then it will be too late. try turning 25 first. that's not too much of a commitment.) Well, you have to live 2 years as a woman anyway. but please try to answer my above question, that is the main part I don't understand. and remember, you will not become a female, you will just look more like one. An overweight preson can have a stomach staple or lyposuction but they will still have the issues that got them overweight in the first place. learn to love your p***s, it's a wonderful thing. Please save the p***s.
Crescentdarklight, just remember right now, you need to focus on the present and take things one step at a time. These next few years are a real challenge, no matter what the outcome. Stick to your friends, but realize they won't always be there necessarily. Every morning when you wake up just remember that you have to be comfortable with you, and that you are the one who will make you happy in the end (in whatever manifestation of inner or outer reality that must take shape). Being able to find that bliss is a true happiness we all strive for. *hugs*
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:57 pm
gayzilla Let me ask you this then, why do you hate your p***s so much? (I'm not against anyones choices, nor do I judge anyone for them, I just think you will regret it, by then it will be too late. try turning 25 first. that's not too much of a commitment.) Well, you have to live 2 years as a woman anyway. but please try to answer my above question, that is the main part I don't understand. and remember, you will not become a female, you will just look more like one. An overweight preson can have a stomach staple or lyposuction but they will still have the issues that got them overweight in the first place. learn to love your p***s, it's a wonderful thing. Please save the p***s. It doesn't matter the physical looks of you. You are who you think you are. To me it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks, your judging by saying that I'am not female when I truly feel I'am. I'm a female in a males body and I wish to be more like my self then someone I'am not. I may of been born this way in physical but its not who I'am as a soul.
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:59 pm
jessicamundi gayzilla Let me ask you this then, why do you hate your p***s so much? (I'm not against anyones choices, nor do I judge anyone for them, I just think you will regret it, by then it will be too late. try turning 25 first. that's not too much of a commitment.) Well, you have to live 2 years as a woman anyway. but please try to answer my above question, that is the main part I don't understand. and remember, you will not become a female, you will just look more like one. An overweight preson can have a stomach staple or lyposuction but they will still have the issues that got them overweight in the first place. learn to love your p***s, it's a wonderful thing. Please save the p***s.
Crescentdarklight, just remember right now, you need to focus on the present and take things one step at a time. These next few years are a real challenge, no matter what the outcome. Stick to your friends, but realize they won't always be there necessarily. Every morning when you wake up just remember that you have to be comfortable with you, and that you are the one who will make you happy in the end (in whatever manifestation of inner or outer reality that must take shape). Being able to find that bliss is a true happiness we all strive for. *hugs*Awww thank you luv.
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:52 pm
After such consideration I think an explaination is needed in this area. First of all people like me, when they discover who they really are and yet already having those feelings from birth....you feel the need to transform into the person you feel. Its not because that we hate our bodies, its just because we feel we are wearing a mask and that we are not our selves. My parents always told my to be my self, my friends did as well. I want to do that by doing this. It may not be a complete change of sex within that certain area but I may become both at the same time just by getting hormones. I know what I want to do now but yet still not sure what next step to take because I haven't taken the first step yet. So, just like you being your self the way you are, I want to be who I'am to. I know I have the right to do that. All my life even as a child people thought I was a girl, now I might be able to actually look like that with out people looking at me weird or whatever. I don't like being stared at and here where I live it has happened since birth so...I may not be able to change that but at least I will be more happy knowing I can wear what I want with out the feeling of being looked at because I'am a guy wearing clothes. But! The other reason is because I feel more female then male. The energy is completly different, and even a psychic told me the same thing. Even a resent new friend asked me if I wanted to get a sex change. It wasn't because I wore womans clothes because I know one of her friends does that and she never asked that question to him because I asked and I know him pretty well as well. She asked me because I had thought about it and when she did ask she asked me by a whisper. She was afraid to ask in front of the other people and I told her that I had thought about it. To her, I do feel female, I would like to transform into that. The physical aspect of male and female does not apply in any case here because it is what I FEEL that matters. So you see by staying the way I'am now just feels like I have a mask on and I can't take it off. It would probley feel really weird to have a mask on all the time and have people look at you differently now wouldnt it? I would think so. So to me its just becoming who I'am and I wont be changing anything about my self in a mental or emotional way. I hope that answers your question.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:19 pm
jessicamundi ...*I* am female and I don't have a v****a or two XX's. Female is a gender, a state of mind, an essence of the spirit. You have no more right telling her what gender she is or isn't than I have of telling you whether you're straight or not. maybe I should clarify as I pretty much agree with you (except for one point), the only real definition of a female is scientific, the Chromosome, menstruate produce eggs version. In those ways she will NEVER be female, you may not like it, but you must agree it is completely true, science is not there yet. BUt in every other way, every intangible way she already is female. I just don't think she needs to go through the genital mutilitation to make it so. On a side note I am also against circumcision, I am strongly agains any surgical alteration to the p***s unless its a life and death health situation. After the operation you will never be able to acheive orgasm, and I think that's a mighty price to pay. But there are places you can go and be happy ad feel happy and not worry about who is looking at you negatively. I grew up maine but live in NY now, I too get some bad looks when I go back to maine. My mom even got mad when I died my hair purple once and she was worried about all the attention it would attract, ******** that s**t man. I do hope you find more happiness though crecentdarklight.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:39 pm
gayzilla jessicamundi ...*I* am female and I don't have a v****a or two XX's. Female is a gender, a state of mind, an essence of the spirit. You have no more right telling her what gender she is or isn't than I have of telling you whether you're straight or not. maybe I should clarify as I pretty much agree with you (except for one point), the only real definition of a female is scientific, the Chromosome, menstruate produce eggs version. In those ways she will NEVER be female, you may not like it, but you must agree it is completely true, science is not there yet. BUt in every other way, every intangible way she already is female. I just don't think she needs to go through the genital mutilitation to make it so. On a side note I am also against circumcision, I am strongly agains any surgical alteration to the p***s unless its a life and death health situation. After the operation you will never be able to acheive orgasm, and I think that's a mighty price to pay. But there are places you can go and be happy ad feel happy and not worry about who is looking at you negatively. I grew up maine but live in NY now, I too get some bad looks when I go back to maine. My mom even got mad when I died my hair purple once and she was worried about all the attention it would attract, ******** that s**t man. I do hope you find more happiness though crecentdarklight. I understand the whole physical thing about the cells and all that. But, in my perspective it is who I'am no matter what the cells say I'am. I like you, your really nice smile but I just have a different perspective when it comes to all this. To me the universe flows in all ways and not just one. We all follow different paths. I understand your concern and I think thats wonderful that you have that. Like I said, I love my body its just that I feel like I'am wearing a mask. I'am not entirly sure about getting rid of the testicals yet lol but I do want to take hormones. I feel its the right path for me at this point. Thanks for your opinion your a cool person 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:11 pm
yeah, I think the hormones are a good idea. If you do decide to go through with it, I just think you should talk to your p***s a bit and see if you can't find a middle ground. It won't make you any more of a man than anything else. Like JM, I think you are already female and can find the balance within you. I understand the mask thing though.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:19 pm
gayzilla yeah, I think the hormones are a good idea. If you do decide to go through with it, I just think you should talk to your p***s a bit and see if you can't find a middle ground. It won't make you any more of a man than anything else. Like JM, I think you are already female and can find the balance within you. I understand the mask thing though. Your a wonderful person for understanding. Sometimes I can be very bullheaded but now I see where your coming from. Lol, that talking to p***s thing made me laugh your so silly. 4laugh Lol, but I understand how you feel I felt the same. smile
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