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 Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:45 am
Captain_Shinzo I don't cut slack to extremists or hypocrites.
You know, the ones that go "Church is awesome!" and the topic is on about it but when you put in your input about church by saying you have never been inside one, someone has to go
"You don't need to just say your an Atheist man. That's not cool."
and the room goes silent.
What the ********!??!!? >: One just has to learn to be more tolerant. They know nothing of atheism. Heck, my mother yesterday said that atheists were lazy because they don't "believe in anything." So some dumbass person should not have to say what's cool or not. Great reply to those people: "Talking about religion, not cool. It's a very sensitive subject that makes wars" Then, I would like to know their reaction.
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:45 pm
Yeah, I like to add some tongue in cheek to my responses but not too much. Then they get a little defensive and no one wants that.
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trenchcoat-on-a-tortilla Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:36 pm
Hrm...
In all honesty, I agree both ways.
On the right hand, you have moderates who are kind and actually tolerant. They tend to not CARE about your beliefs and because of this, they aren't proselytizing you.
On the left hand, however, you have few of these kind people and even then, they are still are religious. If someone has a different belief than you, they believe they are right, you are wrong, and that opens up the possibility of either hatred or just straight ministering someone.
Now, the same can happen with Atheists, yes, but religious people have it worse. I mean, we live in a society where our beliefs that are popular can be advertised anywhere.
Religious bumper-stickers, billboards, signs, churches, fund-raisers, banners, commercials, and soon it will be education.
Because of the hype and how popular it is, I could see why people would want to hate the difference from someone.
However, that is the same as saying your mainstream, following everyone else, blah blah blah....
The first girl I ever loved wouldn't date me because I was Atheist and went to pray for me. Least I have a new view on society today.
( and women. My standards are high now. B] )
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:47 pm
I think part of the gray area is due to most of us wanting to be able to get along with other people. It makes life a whole lot easier when we don't have to be constantly arguing. We want to be able to pick our battles not just because we find one set of delusions more harmless than another (personally I don't find any religion completely harmless). It's that it wears you out! (not everyone - I'm amazed at some patient individuals who can debate endlessly and find it invigorating rather than frustrating).
And to a point I also find myself sympathetic to others who aren't ready to let go of religion because I myself was not always an atheist. I think I may have clung to my delusions a lot tighter if confronted by a high level of hostility toward my beliefs.
Having said that I think it's important to differentiate between respecting someone's right to their own opinion/beliefs and respecting that opinion/belief. I think people have the right to believe what they want. But I do not think that just because someone holds a particular opinion it should be considered just as valid as another. Not all opinions are equal and deserve to be held with equal respect.
As for the question of just how tolerant should we be? I don't know - but I think the line has to be drawn where harm is being done to others in the name of a belief.
I don't think there's one perfect answer
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:29 pm
for me, as long as they dont try to convert me (jehovahs witnesses) i leave them to their hypocritical, jesus spouting, warmongering ways. if they do try to convert me, i give em the bird, and walk away. by the way, my girlfriend believes in god, and shes fine with me!
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:13 pm
I think for the average person interacting with another individual it doesn't have to be a big issue. They're either nice or not and you can care for someone without getting nit picky about what they believe as long as their not being a d**k about it.
It's when you're talking about larger groups and organizations that have social or political influence on others. That's where it becomes trickier.
Edit: I really like what Phil Plait had to say about this subject:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/08/17/dont-be-a-d**k-part-1-the-video/
The video is a bit long but well worth a look if you have the time smile
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