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Odd, I feel the same thing about this.

First of all:
This is win: "And the constant state of fantasy streetwalker wear and auctioning off dates could be seen as prostitution. " xd

Second:
Like Lang said, we don't need to post there.

Third:
In the very least, we can always give in a bit and cool down a little.
Keep fooling around without the usual sorts of remarks that lead us here the first place.

Well it isn't just one person acting like this. I know for a fact that it is at least two, maybe three depending on memory. And I know who is doing what for the most part, I don't know everything but I do know enough to be annoyed.

As for not posting there, plain and simple, I refuse to be allies with people I can't trust or be comfortable around. I just won't do it. If I can't consider my allies friends, I don't want them. Trust is huge with me. If I can't trust you, I don't want to be anywhere near you.

As for toning it down... Here is the thing, every instance has been something started on their end and how it was cracked down made both Lynn and I uncomfortable. Apparently from what my source says, they are getting tons of OMGPERVERTEDSHIT complaints on their own people constantly and are thinking of retconning their rules since it is starting to piss them off.

While this is going to be a petty sounding statement, I am what I am and if I have to fake something, I would rather just not bother. I am laid back until I am ******** with. Well, this is ******** with me hence the problem.

I actually trust my clan. I have yet to have any real problems with the attitude of my members in recent memory. My problem is that they apparently have a ******** of people lurking and playing moral Gestapo using rules that boggle my mind.

Im with the scary knight with the sexy siggy!
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I do know that there have been some hidden problems that stem from misinformation. And as we know misinformation does destroy alliances and friendships. I do not think that Dw or any clan member has to "watch their backs"
But if the DoG rules were clear and respected. As I assume they are, then there should be no problem. If the problems stem from the fact that they are fixing their rules then this matter should resolve itself with the completion of said rules. If not then obviously there is something wrong internally with said members.

From my information their clan will discipline their members if there is something needed to be said for instance if something is taken as cybering.
The sister will be warned but the non clan member will not have anything wrong delt to them. At least as far as I know. It is settled internally.
Now the current state of affairs I do not know what is going on completely.
But if a non clan member or affiliate steps out of line they will apparently be PM'ed about it. Is this not correct?

Dw I dont know exactly what it is this is for as usually you only stop alliances if something bad happens. And by then there is no reason to discuss the matter. Now if you are wanting to hear the words of your underlings then I understand. yet I remain as confused as ever. sweatdrop

The only thing that remains clear to me is this whole "To stay in our clan the other clan you are with must be an affiliate" crap.
This kinda pisses me off a little. So what if we stop the alliance then Lang, Twili, etc will be banned from their clan?
This is idiocy. Forcing a person to choose one guild or the other?

I think we need to refocus on why we are allianced with DoG.
And what effects could occur if we lose that alliance.
Then again I am like stated earlier confused.

The cards are on the tables.
SHould we go down to votes or wait for the next crisis to make the voting happen?

When there is a decision, I can just make it. However, I want discussion so I have enough perspectives to make an intelligent decision. So yea, I will make the call but I do want input. XD

So don't worry about a vote, just worry about getting all of our facts straight so I can make the best decision possible and be able to justify it. I hate people that throw the Because I said so crap so I want to avoid doing things like that.

Hence I like my crew. 3nodding

I only know of stuff I've seen (which is a few incidents) and the incident that Zepher was told about.

If it's as Zeph says and they're trying to sort out their rules, then I think we should give them more time.
I saw a guild announcement from them the other day regarding some rule additions, so they're working on things.

While they/we may be annoyed by 'prudes' or whatever, it's tough to cater to everyone in a guild, especially one with such different age ranges.
I reckon with some time, they'll sort out their end.