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 Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:51 pm
Joey Crash Quakes21 I'm still stuck on the 44k dollars. You spend, YOUR hard earned money, to drive YOUR car 3000 miles and put gas in your ride and what not just to travel, party, and show off. The idea still isn't quite clicking in my head. For all that's worth I can drive from where I live to Miami for free(not counting the cost of gas and other necessities). I mean, I'm not trying to down grade the idea of the race, well I can't say race because its not one, but that's a large sum of money to do something that shouldn't have to cost nearly that much. +1. Its blatant stupidity if you ask me, when you can sign up and compete for a year at an interstate rally that is FIA-affiliated, AND which is an actual motorsport event on that budget. Its basically an "event" to give the very rich an opportunity to feel like a racing driver except without the risks of the profession and "cleverly" sidesteps the generic competitor's lack of skill and race-craft by having it on public roads. That isn't rallying, its pointless. Here'a bit of ametuer motorsport THAT's tarmac rallying(just pointed up an incline) And this... Is actual tarmac Rally. Its an actual event called the Targa Tasmania, and its a RACE. Not really the same as a glorified cruise with a 44K entrance fee, eh? It really isn't, but a lot better at the same time. This is the type of racing that should be more embraced. 44k can get you a few years old Porsche or something of that caliber, and then I'd do these races.
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:24 pm
M8 it isn't 44k all-up, its 44k entrance fee only on top of the cost of your car. So say, if you went 20+ on an old Porsche to do the event, you'd end up 64K out of pocket at the end of it sans support, tyres, fines and potential damage/lodging/food. And considering the lodging quality for the event, I hate to think of what the final figure would be like if you wanted to run at the front.
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:35 pm
Joey Crash Quakes21 I'm still stuck on the 44k dollars. You spend, YOUR hard earned money, to drive YOUR car 3000 miles and put gas in your ride and what not just to travel, party, and show off. The idea still isn't quite clicking in my head. For all that's worth I can drive from where I live to Miami for free(not counting the cost of gas and other necessities). I mean, I'm not trying to down grade the idea of the race, well I can't say race because its not one, but that's a large sum of money to do something that shouldn't have to cost nearly that much. +1. Its blatant stupidity if you ask me, when you can sign up and compete for a year at an interstate rally that is FIA-affiliated, AND which is an actual motorsport event on that budget. Its basically an "event" to give the very rich an opportunity to feel like a racing driver except without the risks of the profession and "cleverly" sidesteps the generic competitor's lack of skill and race-craft by having it on public roads. That isn't rallying, its pointless. Here'a bit of ametuer motorsport THAT's tarmac rallying(just pointed up an incline) And this... Is actual tarmac Rally. Its an actual event called the Targa Tasmania, and its a RACE. Not really the same as a glorified cruise with a 44K entrance fee, eh? @ ametuer motorsport: That was pretty damn impressive, I sure don't know any blokes with control like that. @ Targa: I Didn't know they entered Zonda's and Lambo's and s**t, I usually watch it when it's on TV, Most of the blokes use old XY's or Escort's, I've never seen them using Zonda's.
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:53 pm
Who ever said that rich people were smart and not wasteful?
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:28 am
When I first herad about the gumball, like when they did it in europe and stuff. They where entering lambos and ferraris and stuff. It was aimed at rich playboys, to who $44k is one outfit.
Believe it or not if you go to say high class luxury stores that maybe sell Chopard watches or D&G or Hugo Boss suits, you'll be so amazed at how much those items actually cost.
Whats more amazing is that there are people who buy it...and regularly.
There are some crazy-wealthy people out there.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:38 am
^^^We had a customer who owned a business which sold such things. The mark-up was completely insane, trade VS market prices. Thing is he could tell us ABSOLUTELY what made these products stand apart, and to a point its worth the extra cost. But as a design professional, I really can't justify it after considering the elements behind these branded goods. The same reason I can't make sense of an event that's branded as a "rally," but doesn't have the elements or essence of an actual competitive environment.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:49 am
Dictionary dot com rally –noun 13. a recovery from dispersion or disorder, as of troops. 14. a renewal or recovery of strength, activity, etc. 15. a partial recovery of strength during illness. 16. a drawing or coming together of persons, as for common action, as in a mass meeting: A political rally that brought together hundreds of the faithful. 17. a get-together of hobbyists or other like-minded enthusiasts, primarily to meet and socialize. 18. Finance. a sharp rise in price or active trading after a declining market. 19. (in tennis, badminton, etc.) a. an exchange of strokes between players before a point is scored. b. the hitting of the ball back and forth prior to the start of a match. 20. Boxing. an exchange of blows. 21. Baseball. the scoring of one or more runs in one inning. 22. British Theater. a quickening of pace for heightening the dramatic effect in a scene or act. 23. Shipbuilding. a series of blows with battering rams, made in order to drive wedges under a hull to raise it prior to launching. 24. Also, rallye. a long-distance automobile race, esp. for sports cars, held over public roads unfamiliar to the drivers, with numerous checkpoints along the route. Maybe they're using definition 16, instead of 24? (Now I'm just being facetious.) I too don't believe that it's a true rally from our perspective. The original Gumball was though, wasn't it? People had to make the trip in as little time possible. I know that the most recent Cannonball was that way.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:51 am
Well if its not a race, it doesn't fit the definition of an FIA-affiliate run "Rally" where it pertains to vehicles used in competitive motorsport. "Mother of all Cruises" is much more suitable. Not too sure about the original Gumball though, as it was quite a long time ago.
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:40 am
Millefune Dictionary dot com rally 17. a get-together of hobbyists or other like-minded enthusiasts, primarily to meet and socialize. 24. Also, rallye. a long-distance automobile race, esp. for sports cars, held over public roads unfamiliar to the drivers, with numerous checkpoints along the route. Maybe they're using definition 16, instead of 24? (Now I'm just being facetious.) I too don't believe that it's a true rally from our perspective. The original Gumball was though, wasn't it? People had to make the trip in as little time possible. I know that the most recent Cannonball was that way.
From what I've read and seen, it's a mix of 17 and 24 - it's not a race, but it's a get together with driving from point A to point B with several stops. It was never a race, though many people choose to go quite fast.
The cannonball run is completely different than the Gumball.
Those vids Joey posted are awesome, that's the kind of racing I'd like to see more of. The Lamborghini in the second video was spitting hot fire, yo. And also, because that song was the s**t!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVu2cX0jEYk
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