was reading through a bit of your Christianity and homosexuality thread and thought I'd leave you a comment. I myself see myself as bicurious (I'd go bisexual but I've never tried dating a woman, I've been attracted to women and of course still am) and a Christian. Never really thought about it to much in high school and it wasn't till college that I realized what I had been feeling toward a friend of mine which of course led me to start feeling awful about myself.
I've researched into it a bit and found with some of my google searching what you've put on your page (that ancient Hebrew doesn't actually HAVE a word for homosexuality) but seeing your research makes me happy. It honestly makes me want to become a translator and try and learn ancient Hebrew so I, myself, could just try and figure out what the raw words of the bible are trying to say. It is sad that the word of God is being lost in the context of bad translations if that's the case.
I honestly don't think God would put these feelings in me and then call them sinful. It'd be like them putting up a rule that says anybody born with a nose is sinning.
I didn't choose this, I've always been this way but I guess conservative Christians would also argue that all man is born with sin so therefor my feelings of love toward a woman are from that sin. I have a hard time going to church (and honestly it's been quite a while, especially to any in my small retirement town) because of the conservative teachings going on there. I also have a hard time identifying myself as a Christian because of those types of people.
Thanks for your awesome threads in the ED. Truly inspiring and lifting after reading them all.
I was truly shocked to learn that the term homosexuality was invented in the late 1800s, and since Judaism was like +2-3000 years, one must logically think that something's up o-o;
*random hug* and I'll dive back into your threads lol sweatdrop
While I'm here, I have some horrible movies to recommend if you ever have the time:
Clip from Tommy Wiseau's "The Room". Meant to be a heart-wrenching drama, Wiseau coughed up 8mil for this movie. Bad script, worse acting, overall train wreck and possibly the best movie that will make a man out of anyone. Tommy is the main character, Johnny. The perfect employee, neighbor, friend, fiance, (future) son-in-law and father figure to a confused man-child. Things suddenly turn to s**t for him and, well, this movie is his personal blow-job. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ4KzClb1C4&feature=related
"Lost Skeleton of Cadavra" - Intentionally bad. It's B&W and kind of slow but It's very well done and hilarious. A scientist and his wife go looking for a falling star with large quantities of atmospherium which will shake the foundation of everything they believe in. Another scientist wakes the Lost Skeleton of Cadavra whom also requests this atmospherium for his own evil deeds, while a couple aliens run out of fuel for their ship which is made of...*GASP* Motha 'uckin' atmospherium. Awkwardness ensues. Oh, random monster appears. And a cat-lady named Animala. My friends and I decided to play a drinking game with this movie once. Taking a shot every time someone says "science" or "atmospherium." is a very dangerous idea. Never again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BlqogvkOpI (P.S. They're releasing part two next year, I'm so exciting I feel the need to explode, implode and explode again)
"Shark Alarm of the Mediterranean" - Originally in German, the English translation is god awful. Awful, stinky, which makes it beautiful. The plot is simple: Main character's wife is killed by a shark. Main character runs from the pain to pretty island. Same shark that killed wife appears and starts killing again. Main dude seeks revenge. Towards the last half of the movie, they completely rip off a scene from "Terminator" frame by frame, word for word. This link is not that particular scene but an example of the enthusiasm you will find: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqgtn5muHyc
Finally, any 80's-mid90's kid will remember this fool - Vanilla ice in "Cool As Ice". V-Ice's motorcycle breaks down in this tiny 50's-esque neighborhood and decides to be all CRAZY and ZANY and runs around trying to impress people, especially the main female who he wants to sex, makes fun of her b/f for being a square and of course, the main heroine's parents hate him because he's just too damn WACKY. Main chick's little bro is kidnapped and held for ransom because dad got wrapped up with some bad people and it's up to Ice to save the day. Singing and dancing will be found. It's cheesy and painfully nostalgic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex_gBUtEuMw&feature=related
I host "Bad Movie Night" at my house, I'll post more later if you have any interest. smile
Thank you for giving me hope in such a cruel and sinful world.
God bless you and your family. I thank God for creating people like you.
Love,
Your Sister in Christ Jesus, Child of God, and a shining light in a dark world.
Hello Loki... I heard you were Catholic, I have a friend, who is Catholic and refuses to hear the voice of reason, even if they are Biblical...
Here's what I think about Catholicism:
I'll refer Revelations:
Revelations 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Revelations 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Pope is arrayed in the same colours.
Revelations 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
If you look at the geopgraphy of Rome there are 7 hills in the one city.
I really want to reach out to you in support, I am happy that you are enthused to serve God, but, I would like you be on the road of absolute truth.
Oh yeah, please, watch this video, this time I am serious, its a bit long but it almost made me cry because I never knew that the Roman Catholic
Church was still practicing pagan practices.
You ask me the question, do I believe in unicorns...?
And who is Lucifer?
Here is my response:
Unicorn (the unicorn that is mentioned in the Bible is not the unicorn that most people portray, which is a mythical, gentle, white horse with a spiral horn coming out
of its forehead that deemed to have magical properties. This is NOT the unicorn I know of.
The unicorn that is mentioned in the Bible, is described...
[quote=Unicorn - Hebrew Translation]
H7214
רם רים ראים ראם
re'êm re'êym rêym rêm
reh-ame', reh-ame', rame, rame
From H7213; a wild bull (from its conspicuousness): - unicorn.
[/quote]
The translation here is wild bull...
[quote=All the uses of 'unicorn' mentioned in the KJV Bible]
Numbers 23:22 God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.
Numbers 24:8 God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.
Job 39:9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?
Job 39:10 Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
Job 39:11 Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?
Job 39:12 Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?
Psalms 29:6 He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.
Psalms 92:10 But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
[/quote]
Here we see the description, that this 'unicorn' is a very strong creature, that cannot be tamed, you may wonder as to why
they didn't use the word bull.
[quote=Bull]
H7794
שׁור
shôr
shore
From H7788; a bullock (as a traveller). wall used by mistake for H7791: - bull (-ock), cow, ox, wall [by mistake for H7791].
[/quote]
Because 'bull' or 'bullock' is of the cow/oxen variety.
Now even today, we have many things called bulls - Cows, Seals, Whales... etc.
Based on speaking of it's strength, I'd say it can't be a cow, because cow's can be tamed and even ridden...
Now what about the Rhinoceros...?
That's strong, untame, can pierce like arrows, break bones. etc. I think, they spoke of the Rhinoceros.
If we were using the terminology - unique horn, then what other animal but the narwhal has such a horn that can pierce.
So, I strongly think of the Rhinoceros as the 'unicorn'.
Might I ask as to why, you ask about 'Lucifer'? I noticed that the name isn't mentioned in the NIV version of the Bible, which is why you
probably asked...
Here is the translation:
[quote=Lucifer]
H1966
הילל
hêylêl
hay-lale'
From H1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning star: - lucifer.
[/quote]
The verses in context:
[quote=Isaiah 14-11-15]
11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
[/quote]
Satan is/was Lucifer, I say was because I'm not sure if it was his name before he fell from Heaven, Satan wanted to be God, so he was cast down, this is what the Bible
tells me.
Might I ask if you read the links I recommended...?
here is another: [url=http://www.bereancall.org/newsletters/foundations.htm]KJV vs. NIV[/url]
I shall say to you my friend, I want you to read, be a Bere
I shall give you a lesson as I am led to to so... Firstly, this is for your edification, as there is a very unbiblical post you placed on the forums
I plan to edify, not to offend.
Firstly this is on about your interpretation of God's Holy and righteous word:
please read these article: [url=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NIV/worship.htm]Truth about the NIV[/url]
[url=http://www.av1611.org/kjv/fight.html]Bible comparisons[/url]
You say you are a Christian, I shall assume you are truly wanting to serve Christ, this is expected of all Christians, including myself.
My friend, if your church endorses false doctrine and principles, flee from them! I did!
I'll be using the KJV!
Now you support the theory that God condones the act of homosexuality... and loves it... thou art sorely mistaken.
Now, in the world to day where there are so few true Christians, so many denominations (or deviations) that are
turning God into something that pleases them.
When I see the blaspheming or utter misinterpretation of God's Word, I get really upset and am always compelled to
prove just Righteous God is how disgusting and unacceptable things are to God.
Truth is so scarce nowadays... and I am truly worried.
Do you know how scary these verses are:
[quote=1 Peter 4:17-18]
17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
[/quote]
and
[quote=Matthew 7:19-23]
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
[/quote]
These verses are a secondary motivation for me, to be acceptable, the first is knowing about the character of Our awesome God and His Son and Our Redeemer Jesus Christ.
[quote=linaloki]People think they know about it, and yet they fail to know even the most basic knowledge from this religions holy texts. I am, of course, talking about Christianity. It’s a religion that, in America, 83% of people claimed in 2004. Yet, out of that 83%, maybe only 40% can name the 10 Commandments. Shameful, isn’t it? Therefore, I’m going to try to give a little view of what Christianity at it’s most naked is.[/quote]
I do hope this was you before you found truth... as it seems you yourself may very well be lacking. Again, I'm here as a representative of Incorruptible, Holy and Righteous Words, not here to condemn but to edify/admonish...
I personally do believe the 10 Commandments are still applicable... Jesus himself said so:
[quote=Matthew 5:18-19]
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[/quote]
Moving on to the meat of the matter.
HOMOSEXUALITY IS UNACCEPTABLE TO GOD!!
In your argument, you pointed out that God wasn't against homosexuality, but was against rape: certainly Our God is against rape, but that was a blatant
assumption to put into that context, never did it say rape a
hate to bother you but please check my profile and give me any heads up about my quizilla stories and tell me in my journal, comments, or PM!
tell your friends!
or family!
or strangers!
thank you for your time ~
You make good threads, pity most of them are kind of wasted on ED. Most people there already agree with you. The rest are just trolling. Macai is a notable exception to that - he's not trolling. Small internet communities like ED are not a fair representation of a population that those kinds of threads are aimed at.
Though, I still remember the days when ED was half-life issues half-debate. Too bad the forums got separated. People's problems were a nice distraction. XD
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