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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:41 am
As not to spam the other thread, I'm opening this one here. If this is not appropriate, I will delete this thread.
So, what I want to know is:
Why do Kataangs hate Zutara so much?
I have seen a lot of Kataangers react rather violently, against Zutara but they lack reason. I am not saying that all people wo ship Kataang are this way, because I've met some that were very accepting too, but the thing that puzzles me, is that they frequently go 'EW! GO AWAY, I HATE ZUTARA!!' but they never say why.
I'm not trying to start a shipping war or a flaming thread, in fact I would actually appreciate it, if you as a Zutarian could give me reasons why you think they ship it. While we're at it, we can discuss the various aspects, I'd love to do that most of all, because I want to see both sides of the story.
oh, and from taking a peek into a "Let's BASH Zutara!!!" thread, what I suspect is that they just dislike Zuko. >_>
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:46 am
Until now I never really thouhgt about why Kataangers hate Zutarians so much. Mabey they acctually feel there may be hope for Zutara, so they don't want to encourage it.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:36 pm
I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Kataang is a little more canon than Zutara? Just guessing. Sorry if it sounded like sarcasm, because it wasn't.
EDIT: For those of you who don't think some of the Kataangers aren't mean to the Zutaraians and Taangs, I searched Zutara on photobucket and found a bunch of Zutara bashing images. They weren't really Kataang, just anti-Zutara and anti-Taang. The person who hosted these images was called KataangianElite for those of you who don't believe me.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:28 pm
RockyRoadSmith Until now I never really thouhgt about why Kataangers hate Zutarians so much. Mabey they acctually feel there may be hope for Zutara, so they don't want to encourage it. I wouldn't mind if they complained about Zutara, if their points were legitimate. I mean, we interpret a lot of things of course, but there is almost no case where I could say:
"if you think about it, isn't that scene/sentene/word/gesture ambiguous? It works both ways, so the hint COULD be there."
What really gets me, is their agressiveness and lack of arguement.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:31 pm
Sjs-Katuko I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Kataang is a little more canon than Zutara? Just guessing. Sorry if it sounded like sarcasm, because it wasn't. That's a good point, and I'm glad that you actually bring this up. :3 I can see that they would say that we are searching for the needle in the hay, but then again, they seem to conviniently forget that it's also canon, that Guru Pathik says that Aang has to let go. If I'd be cruel, I'd say that that could be taken as an 'official' hint that Kataang will die. :/
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:15 am
Oh yeah.... I forgot all about Aang having to let Katara go. It's kind of depressing when I think about it. ;_;
I agree that it is strange how much more aggressive they are. I never really noticed until you mentioned it before.
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:04 pm
Yeah, I was browsing the Kataang guild and noticed a thread for bashing pairings that stand in the way of their ship, so it kinda makes me think that maybe they feel threatened by the possibilty of another ship.
I think most of the people like the fluff and simplicity of the pair. They don't have a lot of obstacles to overcome and they're already great friends, so why not have them get married and have a family? Where as with Zutara, they have a lot of obstacles to over come and they're enemies, so how could they ever stand each other?
Meh. I dunno. I think the series could go either way personally, but after the what the Guru said I'm feeling more confident that it might be Zutara.
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:49 am
*Nods*,You have a point Rachaella,... And i saw that thread too (I spy on Kataangs >W<) But when you look close enough most Kataangs are Aang's Age (Not saying there aren't some young Zutarians)Read this >W< (Well Katara's part)By the way, Quote: Until now I never really thouhgt about why Kataangers hate Zutarians so much. Mabey they acctually feel there may be hope for Zutara, so they don't want to encourage it. Yeah, They know it'll happen they are just to proud to admit it (I mean just cuz there's some Kataang Fluff D:<)
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:22 am
Like I probably said before: I don't really mind that they ship Kataang, and say that it's canon, but what irks me is that they hate Zutara, and in most of the cases don't/can't explain why.
As you said, I have the suspicion, that they ship Kataang because they are the same age as Aang or Katara, or because it's 'canon'. But unlike them, we can admit that we are grasping for the stars, desperately looking for hints and clues, eventhough our ship might sink fast. but we don't rub it in their faces.
Now for some discussing: I think, that the fortuneteller (Aunt Wu) gave a big clue, "a powerful bender". This could of course be anyone, but definetly not Aang, because then she would have said "the avatar", and she didn't see any romance in his future. But to be fair, we could count in the possibility that they might date or something, but it doesn't last?
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:07 pm
Pinumbra Like I probably said before: I don't really mind that they ship Kataang, and say that it's canon, but what irks me is that they hate Zutara, and in most of the cases don't/can't explain why. Now for some discussing: I think, that the fortuneteller (Aunt Wu) gave a big clue, "a powerful bender". This could of course be anyone, but definetly not Aang, because then she would have said "the avatar", and she didn't see any romance in his future. But to be fair, we could count in the possibility that they might date or something, but it doesn't last? *Nods* But the thing that makes me the happiest, that link was pulled right out of a Nick Magazine =D
They Might Date or something *shrugs*, Yeah, also about the thing where Kataangs hate Zutara but, can't explain why really annoys me >.<
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:32 pm
sorry to intrude on the conversation, but, there is a plausable reason why Aunt Wu didn't say "the avatar". because usually, most furtunetellers are ambigous and aren't straight to the point.
I'm a zutara fan, even though I just deffended Kataang... gonk
I think the reason why they may zutara is because the majority of A:TLA fans are Zutarians. Though Kataang fans are close behind. Maybe it's a grudge sort of thing?
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:37 am
Kachimo sorry to intrude on the conversation, but, there is a plausable reason why Aunt Wu didn't say "the avatar". because usually, most furtunetellers are ambigous and aren't straight to the point. I'm a zutara fan, even though I just deffended Kataang... gonk I think the reason why they may zutara is because the majority of A:TLA fans are Zutarians. Though Kataang fans are close behind. Maybe it's a grudge sort of thing? Ah, good point, should have thought of that. xD It's okay to point out things that we should keep in mind, it helps us see everything from all the different viewpoints. :3
The big question is why they hate us....and it seems that we won't get an answer gonk
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:41 pm
Quote: Ah, good point, should have thought of that. xD It's okay to point out things that we should keep in mind, it helps us see everything from all the different viewpoints. :3
The big question is why they hate us....and it seems that we won't get an answer gonk Well *takes out glasses and shuffles papers* I think maybe they hate us (More then other shippings) is we pull Katara far away from Aang and uh.. o_o; They feel threatened by Zutara..? Maaaaybeee They Are threatened *shifty eyes*.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:19 am
On the topic of Aunt Wu, I think I remember her saying that Aang could choose his own destiny, and that he was not bound to what she predicted. Which is actually very true, because in the second season finale he chose to keep his attachment to Katara. However, at the end, he tried to go into the Avatar State, so maybe he ended up letting go of his attachment and romantic feelings.
Oh, and I saw that article in the magazine before. It made feel all fuzzy and warm inside.
:3
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:54 am
I think the only way we can know for sure why kataang shippers hate us, is if we ask why, and not take their silence or their stupidy for an answer.
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