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Lorelei Yeager


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:26 pm


Disclaimer
Hello, my name is Hannah Yeager and on ff.net my pen name is Isabel Night. I write Ronin Warriors / Yoroiden Samurai Troopers fan fiction, and I mostly focus on the Four Dark Warlords / Yon Masho

I will try to write, at least once a month, and editorial on fan fiction writing and ff.net; please note that these are editorials are not endorsed by ff.net or any of the staff in this guild. These are purely my opinions in the 11+ years I've been writing fan fiction.

I also ask that my editorials not turn into actual blown-out fights. The guild moderators do have the power to lock my editorials should a verbal fight break out. You don't have to like what I say or agree with it, but do not pick a fight in my thread.

With that out of the way, here is my first editorial...


Fan Fiction & The First Impression

Let's face it, the world is shallow. Americans who enjoy watching reality TV can be amused by American Idol, 16 & Pregnant, Growing up Gotti, and more as the list stretches on. We like to see TV Stars get their just desserts on TV for our sick, demented pleasure. And if you think Americans are bad, you should see some of the stuff they advertise in Europe.

My point is: the world is shallow. People do judge how you look and first impressions are a big deal. Because of how shallow society is, how you dress, how you present yourself, and all the non-verbal signs you give tells everyone everything about you in that one moment. Is it shallow? Yes. Do I hate it? Yes.

However, I'm not a young teenager who believes that I can change the world. I tried that when I was part of a mock government organization; harsh reality blew my dreams out of the water. That's not to say I didn't have small victories: a state-wide implementation of the Amber Alert System in North Carolina, a uniform sex education policy to be adopted in North Carolina - again, small victories.

One thing I learned while in mock politics was that research and appearance is everything. You dress the part and you cite your sources. You do your research and you come prepared. In simple terms, you had to sell your idea. And if you couldn't sell it, then why should anyone vote for your bill or resolution?

It's the same way in fan fiction. Most people who read your fan fictions on ff.net aren't going to know you personally. They're looking for a good story and they have chosen to spend time looking at your story. They're going to like, review, or dislike your story based on its first impression. That's how it works. I'm a firm believer in judging a person based on character. Even at 29 years old, I wish people could judge others not by appearances, but by their actions.

Sadly, this is not the world we live in. People are shallow. Unless they know you in real life, most people who read your fan fiction are going to judge your work. Not because they don't know you personally - they could care less - they just want to read a good story. And your story is the first impression reader get to view you. And if you don't make a good first impression by not having correct grammar, correct spelling, well-rounded characters, etc. what do you think they're going to think of you? If your story hasn't gone through several Beta Readers, why should they like it? Why shouldn't they just think you're a dumbass n00b writer who doesn't take time to put effort into his/her work? Again, back to real world/mock politics reasoning. Is it shallow, yes, but a poorly written story with typos does create a bad first impression. And in this world, first impressions are everything.

Here's another example of first impressions: I recently went to a job interview at a local McDonalds. I dressed up in a nice top and skirt, wore jewelry, and wore make-up. When I got there, there were all these other job seekers dressed in a collared shirt and jeans.

I waited until it was time for my interview. After the initial interview, I was taken aside by the hiring manager and thanked for dressing up and looking nice. Do you know what that told me? I made a good first impression over other candidates. Believe it or not, I actually got the job - but had to quit because of transportation to and from work.

Now, was that hiring manager shallow by taking me aside and thanking me for dressing up because I was serious about the job and I cared enough to look nice? You can decide that for yourself. My point is: those who read fan fictions do not know you personally. Your story is their first impression of you as a writer. Yeah, you can say fan fiction is just for fun, but when someone wants to look at your story, what first impression are you giving them? A crappy story that has typos, grammar and spelling errors, and chat speak? Or are you trying to make a good first impression by submitting a grammar/spell-checked document, with well-rounded characters that has been looked over and checked?

Yeah, fan fiction can be fun. But always remember that every new story is a first impression. And you can blow that first impression or make it worthwhile. The choice is up to you.


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Fan Fiction Editorial #1 ( <-- You are here.)
Fan Fiction Editorial #2
Fan Fiction Editorial # 3
Fan Fiction Editorial # 4

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:27 pm


And now, let the debate begin...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:03 pm



Everything you say is true and I'm inclined to agree with you to a point.

The thing is, fan fiction is not a job interview. Its not public speaking. You're not trying to pass a bill or achieve anything of any real importance. Fan fiction is a hobby, its not professional writing.

Yes, people are choosing to read your stories, but that's just it -its their CHOICE. You are not charging them to read, they are not paying you to write. The author writes because its fun and the reader reads because they gain some form of enjoyment from it. When I write, I'm not writing to impress people, I'm writing because I have an idea that I need to get out and I have fun doing it. When I post, I post because I want to share what I've written with the fandom, not because I'm trying to win "Best Fan" or something.

When I read another person's story, I tend not to be bothered by small typos or spelling errors. True, this is mostly because I actually fail to notices many of them thanks to my dyslexia. But you also have to remember that not every fan author out there is 29-years-old and a collage graduate. Most authors are teens and pre-teens and are just doing it for fun. Same as I am. Its not serious business to them, and quite frankly, it shouldn't be 'serious business' at all because it's NOT business, its pleasure. A simple past-time.

Now, for original stories... those I hold to a high standard and am critical of. But fan fiction? Fan fiction is just good fun.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:41 pm


I do agree with you when you say that first impressions are an important key in relationships and society. In fact, scientists have researched and concluded that, when meeting new people, the human brain takes a mere two seconds to categorize them as, for lack of a better explanation, a "good" or "bad" person. Even though you don't exactly realize it, the brain makes a 'fight or flight' response, '"fight" meaning you would stay with the person to get to know them or "flight" meaning you don't want to get to know them. Simple as that.
I suppose that a summary is equivalent to a first impression. A good summary gives the reader the main outline of the story, but not every detail.
When you said that grammar and spelling errors can make a bad first impression, I agree with you, but to an extent. Normally when I read a fanfic and I come across a spelling/grammar error, it doesn't usually bug me. Sometimes I make those mistakes and I don't notice until its been published. But if they frequently make the same mistakes, it does irk me, since they should at least have a spell check on their computer.
Like Renkon, I agree. Writing itself can be a passion, but writing fanfiction is usually something people do to express themselves in a simple way.
 

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:16 pm


I'd never quite use a job interview as an example because fan fics are for fun ,amusement, and enjoyment.Its good to make a good impression on a reader as long as your enjoyin its a hobby though if it stops being that then don't. I agree with you about a lot of things with society. As for good fic bad fics people will read them never less like and hate it. I don't think grammar is as bad since its only a issue when it gets difficult to follow or understand. I myself don't mind spelling errors much or minor structure problems.It just when it remains a constant issue that it may irk me a bit. In those cases I will let them know. Like stated earlier not all of us are college graduates or excelled with a degree in the field. Beta readers are not an absolute must for writing a good fic it just helps.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:33 pm


So long as I can understand what the fanfic writer wrote, I tend to be lenient with grammar and spelling. Everyone makes mistakes and not everyone has a beta readers. I have one or two, but even they miss things.

I'll go over a story about a year later after posting it notice all sorts of small things wrong with it that I didn't notice in the ten edits done on the story before posting.

Now, if there are more spelling mistakes then there are properly spelled words, that's when I doubt the worth of the story and don't bother reading. A couple typos in each chapter are no big deal though. Spell check doesn't account for words spelled right but the wrong form and grammar check isn't always the best thing to listen to, because context is completely lost on it. Once I had imminent and eminent mixed up and neither programs caught it. Same with accept and except. (One of my reviewers let me know and I was happy to fix it.)

But I do think it is important to at least try your best to make the story as good as it can be, both in it's storyline and it's more technical aspects. It may be a hobby, but that doesn't mean it's okay to not put any real effort into it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:41 pm


Hey, sorry for hijacking the thread, but you can find Beta Readers on Gaia that take gold.

I don't know if any of you go to the Mini Shops Forum, but they have a more recent sub-forum called Writing Shops. If you search through the sub-forum, you can find good and critical Beta Readers for your stories.

Here's the link to the sub-forum: IV

So you don't always have to depend on Beta Readers on ff.net to look over your stories. I always advise multiple Beta Readers and you can find them in the above sub-forum.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:15 pm


Hannah Yeager
Hey, sorry for hijacking the thread, but you can find Beta Readers on Gaia that take gold.

I don't know if any of you go to the Mini Shops Forum, but they have a more recent sub-forum called Writing Shops. If you search through the sub-forum, you can find good and critical Beta Readers for your stories.

Here's the link to the sub-forum: IV

So you don't always have to depend on Beta Readers on ff.net to look over your stories. I always advise multiple Beta Readers and you can find them in the above sub-forum.

I found two beta-reader shops and have added them to the Resources Thread. Thank you for sharing this.

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