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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:28 pm
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:58 pm
Kor: "Of course the answer is Broly."
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Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:27 pm
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:54 pm
basically goes like this:
Chou Gohan > LSSJ3 Broly > SSJ3 Gotenks >= Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:50 am
I'm highly bias toward Super Buu, but I hated using him in Tenkaichi 3 b/c his ultimate attack was a suicidal explosion, but I'd have to give this one to Broly(sadly) considering he technically can't die.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:11 am
ShadowBoyKai basically goes like this:
Chou Gohan > LSSJ3 Broly > SSJ3 Gotenks >= Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku Kor: "BULLSHIT. There is no way in HELL that LSSJ3 Broly is weaker than Mystic Gohan. Sorry but LSSJ3 Broly would probably stronger than SSJ4 Goku after receiving the energy absorption from Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Majuub, and Pan. I mean Legendary means that he would be at least 10x stronger than the regular Super Saiyan form, not to mention that Legendary Saiyans still receive the Zenkai Power Boost after becoming a Super Saiyan."
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:54 am
LSSJ6 Kor Kor: "BULLSHIT. There is no way in HELL that LSSJ3 Broly is weaker than Mystic Gohan. Sorry but LSSJ3 Broly would probably stronger than SSJ4 Goku after receiving the energy absorption from Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Majuub, and Pan. I mean Legendary means that he would be at least 10x stronger than the regular Super Saiyan form, not to mention that Legendary Saiyans still receive the Zenkai Power Boost after becoming a Super Saiyan." LSSJ is 10X stronger than a normal SSJ? Not true, since SSJ2 Goku already beat LSSJ Broly in Hell at the end of Movie 11.
Don't underestimate Chou Gohan. He's 3X stronger than SSJ3 Goku, Broly is lucky to even reach this level.
You can only assume, but nothing whatsoever puts Broly as being stronger than Gohan or even Super Vegito.
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:03 am
ShadowBoyKai LSSJ6 Kor Kor: "BULLSHIT. There is no way in HELL that LSSJ3 Broly is weaker than Mystic Gohan. Sorry but LSSJ3 Broly would probably stronger than SSJ4 Goku after receiving the energy absorption from Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Majuub, and Pan. I mean Legendary means that he would be at least 10x stronger than the regular Super Saiyan form, not to mention that Legendary Saiyans still receive the Zenkai Power Boost after becoming a Super Saiyan." LSSJ is 10X stronger than a normal SSJ? Not true, since SSJ2 Goku already beat LSSJ Broly in Hell at the end of Movie 11.
Don't underestimate Chou Gohan. He's 3X stronger than SSJ3 Goku, Broly is lucky to even reach this level.
You can only assume, but nothing whatsoever puts Broly as being stronger than Gohan or even Super Vegito.Kor: "Prove to me that this SSJ2 vs. LSSJ Broly fight in hell ever happened. I just watched the Bio Broly Movie and that fight doesn't exist. They do mention something about Broly acting up in Hell when Goku's eating but they don't ever show Goku and Pikkon ever going down there to fight Broly."
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:54 am
well... there is no other fighter in the Other World that can defeat Broly other than Goku, not even Pikkon. I mean Pikkon was only i tiny tiny tiny bit stronger than SSJ Goku. Broly is ALOT stronger than SSJ Goku. Goku used SSJ2 to defeat Broly. Why? Well firstly, SSJ Goku would get outright killed by Broly if he used SSJ. He didn't use SSJ3 either, he said to Janemba that the only other person who forced him to go SSJ3 was Buu. And movies are canon to eachother. So SSJ2 Goku fought him without any help.
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:34 am
ShadowBoyKai well... there is no other fighter in the Other World that can defeat Broly other than Goku, not even Pikkon. I mean Pikkon was only i tiny tiny tiny bit stronger than SSJ Goku. Broly is ALOT stronger than SSJ Goku. Goku used SSJ2 to defeat Broly. Why? Well firstly, SSJ Goku would get outright killed by Broly if he used SSJ. He didn't use SSJ3 either, he said to Janemba that the only other person who forced him to go SSJ3 was Buu. And movies are canon to eachother. So SSJ2 Goku fought him without any help. Kor: "Prove that he didn't use SSJ3. Sure movies are canon to each other, but you are forgetting that the Bio-Broly movie takes place after the Janemba movie, which means what he told Janemba doesn't necessarily apply in the situation of the fight with Broly in Hell. Also there is no real way to tell who won since the fight never happened. For all we know, they could've discovered a way to subdue Broly instead of kicking his a**. Maybe Pikkon summoned with his Magic Materialism another LSSJ Restraint Collar that was more powerful than the last."
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:08 pm
ShadowBoyKai basically goes like this:
Chou Gohan > LSSJ3 Broly > SSJ3 Gotenks >= Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku why 3x and alsobroly is at least 10x stronger than goku
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:20 pm
wait kai i remember you said ssj2 is 2x ssj and you said ssj2 goku beats broly so your saying broly is 1.5 x stronger than goku not even double sorry i dis agree and i say buu vai absourbsion and lssj3 broly my (opinion) beats mystic gohan since A.T. didnt make him and is hurrugarn stronger than buuhan
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:13 pm
LSSJ6 Kor Kor: "Prove that he didn't use SSJ3. Sure movies are canon to each other, but you are forgetting that the Bio-Broly movie takes place after the Janemba movie, which means what he told Janemba doesn't necessarily apply in the situation of the fight with Broly in Hell. Also there is no real way to tell who won since the fight never happened. For all we know, they could've discovered a way to subdue Broly instead of kicking his a**. Maybe Pikkon summoned with his Magic Materialism another LSSJ Restraint Collar that was more powerful than the last." What do you mean doesn't apply to the situation of the fight with Broly? It applied to the situation of the fight with Majin Buu, who said it doesn't apply to Broly?
Everything more points to Goku fighting Broly, since Pikkon has no magic abilities whatsoever, he's just a fighter.
@Goku Prime - In DBZ, you don't have to be THAT much stronger than your opponent to kick their a**.
Take Chou Gohan for example, he wasn't even 2X as strong as Buu and he beat the tar out of Buu. So Broly being at 1.5X stronger than Goku is enough to pulverize him.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:57 pm
ShadowBoyKai LSSJ6 Kor Kor: "Prove that he didn't use SSJ3. Sure movies are canon to each other, but you are forgetting that the Bio-Broly movie takes place after the Janemba movie, which means what he told Janemba doesn't necessarily apply in the situation of the fight with Broly in Hell. Also there is no real way to tell who won since the fight never happened. For all we know, they could've discovered a way to subdue Broly instead of kicking his a**. Maybe Pikkon summoned with his Magic Materialism another LSSJ Restraint Collar that was more powerful than the last." What do you mean doesn't apply to the situation of the fight with Broly? It applied to the situation of the fight with Majin Buu, who said it doesn't apply to Broly?
Everything more points to Goku fighting Broly, since Pikkon has no magic abilities whatsoever, he's just a fighter.
Kor: "I'd have to say that you're wrong in saying that Pikkon has no magic abilities cuz all Namekians have the Genetic ability to Magic Materialism. Also some Namekians have the ability to heal others. Just because we've never seen Pikkon use him Magic Materialism b4 that doesn't mean that he can't. Also what is to say that Broly hadn't achieved LSSJ3 by then which would make him much stronger than both Goku and Pikkon put together. I'm also pretty certain that with Broly making trouble that he might've set free Cell, Frieza, Babidi, and any other locked up villains that have a previous record of being troublemakers in HELL, so that means that it wouldn't just be Goku & Pikkon vs. Broly. It would be Goku & Pikkon vs. Broly, Frieza, Raditz (possibly), Nappa (possibly), the Ginyu Force (possibly), Cell, Babidi (who would Majiinize Frieza, Cell, and the others to be much stronger and ruthless), Super Android 13 (most likely; 90% chance or higher), and a few others that I can't think of at the moment. With all those fighters helping Broly (who I think would take the help since they are also enemies of Goku), Goku and Pikkon would be defeated horribly. They would most likely have to come back with assistance from the other dead fighters and possibly the Z Warriors (if it is somehow possible to bring the living to the Other Worlds for a short amount of time). So with that extra help, do you still think that Goku would easily defeat Broly who is 10x stronger in comparison to any comparable SSJ transformation when you compare it to LSSJ forms. Also Broly still receives Zenkai Power Boosts (PLEASE I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS TRUE!!!!).
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:33 am
Pikkon does not have any magical abilities, he already stated himself that he isn't a Namekian.
Broly turning LSSJ3 in Hell? First of all Broly can't turn LSSJ3 in a few minutes after being sent back to Hell.
Secondly, it can never happen. His body has a limit as seen in movie 8, when he had to expell his ki. Broly can't get any stronger than he was at movie 8 or 10.
Buu Saga villans including Babadi aren't in Hell lol, as this movie takes place during the 25th Budokai. This was before Babadi was even mentioned in DBZ. You can't even say Babadi can majinize them as he didn't do it in the other world when Kid Buu was fighting.
You do understand that Goku can one shot all the enemies you listed in his base form, right? Except for Cell, which he would destroy in SSJ2. And in DBZ, the numbers game don't work in DBZ, if your opponent is much stronger than you.
btw, how is LSSJ Broly 10X stronger than SSJ Goku? If that were true, Goku would've been one shotted by Broly's finger. He's 1.5X stronger, enough to make SSJ Goku his b***h, and lose to SSJ2 Goku.
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