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 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:48 pm
I think the final level of hell in inferno is icy, actually. Which is interesting. There are a couple of passages in the bible mentioning a fiery place (Gehenna?) but whether that applies to hell varies by interpretation.
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:01 pm
Really? Icy, huh? That's the complete opposite of the pop culture version of hell, so I'm surprised.
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:25 pm
Yep, traitors in the ninth circle are encased in ice according to Dante. He may have drawn inspiration from Niflheim of the Norsemen. I haven't done a study on Dante so I don't know.
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:33 pm
Ah, so the icy circle is reserved for traitors? Interesting...
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:36 pm
Yeah, each circle has a different sort of slant to it. The first one is for the unbaptised and righteous Pagans, then you sort of go down through it. I don't remember many of them. The fifth circle is for the wrathful and gloomy, suicides etc. It was mostly a political commentary or something anyway.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:19 pm
Yea, Dante's Inferno was used for as much as thoughts on the afterlife, as political fodder. He had a lot of famous people in hell, I think even a pope (Dante was such a caring person....not.). I don't remember him making hell hot, but in various levels there were extreme heat (though which I can't remember). The 10th level (9th and final circle) was a lake of ice, filled with traitors. The worse they betrayed people, the deeper they were incased in ice. In the center of the lake was Satan, depicted as a three headed beast with giant wings. The more he struggled and tryed to escape (more specifically flapping his wings), the harder it became to escape. In his mouths were three of the worst betrayers (in Dante's Opinion): Cassius, Judas, and Brutus. Cassius and Brutus were included because they had, in Dante's mind, crushed the possibility of a unifified Italy.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:51 pm
Hmm, I hadn't thought of Dante writing Inferno as a way to get back at political people he didn't like. XD Even a pope, wow.
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:30 am
Here is my two cents: I don't believe heaven or hell exists. I believe people created the concept of afterlife because the idea of death scares them. Nobody knows what it's like to die so we make ourselves feel better by creating life after death...but if you think about it, life and death are opposites. If you are physically dead, then you cannot be alive. When we die, I'm going to guess it feels like we are asleep; no pain, no worries, no fear, no life. It's the great abstinence (as LaVey describes it).
We all have our own theories of what death feels like but no one can really speak from experience.....unless if you were in a hospital and were clinically proven dead for a period of time then came back. It was medicinal drugs that helped you come back and may have even caused weird out of body experiences. But if not for the medicine, then you wouldn't be alive.
Of course, that's just what I think. Who knows, I could be wrong and when I die, I'll be like "ooops....heh heh guess I was wrong!" xP
This can bring up all sorts of other questions like what are spirits? Souls? Do they move on when we die or are they also just theories? What about ghosts? Real, or our imagination? Is it possible for our spirits/souls/ghosts to be trapped in between life and afterlife? Or is it just biologically and chemically impossible? Are ghosts for real or just smoke and mirrors? I don't even know what I think about these questions. I want to say yes...and no. It's a lot to think about and really complex to type into words at 12:30am. sweatdrop
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