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Super Panda454

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:25 am


Oh yeah, I was wondering when that bit was going to come up. I guess thats why the US could work, since I can er 'look' American. sweatdrop
Mmm, Since my hair is already a dark colour I could get really thick framed glasses...What do you think? Or should I post a mug of my beautiful self so you can judge for you selves. Although the bone structure could be a bit of a prob.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:31 am


Back to the topic at hand. What do you guys think of all these dry shot Nitrus systems that you can fit on stock cars?

Super Panda454


Tomatoman
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:27 am


In no particular order:
1st: Turbo. Turbo is not cheap, but it sure as hell is worth it.
In my plan for a WRX, manual releace blow off valves. They dont really add performance, but I dont care. They arent ricey, and they look absolutely awesome when you blow off a load of steam xd whee
2nd: Dry shot on stock cars. Bullshit. Its 1 a waste of time, because Dry shots are s**t. Pay extra and get wet or direct port. Dry is dangerous, and its designed for people who love to screw up their engines. Thats what it does. Why do you think its so cheap?
3rd: Silvias in the 9's. I've seen civics that do 9's. Now Im not saying the Silvias arent impresive, I am saying that a 9 second civic is a little more impressive blaugh
PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:03 am


Thats probably true about the dry shots. It seems that magazines like super street are geared towards young punks, who's parents by them thier new cars. Not that I don't enjoy thier articiles, as I myself am a young punk. Or as the one Subaru dealer I met, would say. Im a "Hooligan". But in one issue Super Street, or Import tuner or somthing carried a article on how to install a nitrus system. They did it on a stock car and bragged about how easy it was.

Personally I don't really belive in Niturs. But thats probably because my love for cars was fostered in games. Im a romantic who believes that you can win a race against big bad team cobra, in any old beater, so long as you have the skill. Oh well sweatdrop

Super Panda454


SuperUmeMan
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:10 am


Nitrous is good as long as you know what you're doing with it and you don't depend on it completely to win the race for you. Even D1 (Kei Office) and Indy Racing (incorperation of the "boost button") are both making a move towards nitrous. Kazama of Kei Office, who is the current overall points leader and winner of rounds 1 and 2 of the D1 Drifting Circuit this year, says that it's the difference between pushing your car with a hand as opposed to pushing your car with a finger. That delicate balance is what drivers should strive to achieve when using nitrous. Athough the difference may not seem like a big deal, it's still enough to allow the driver to appreciate it.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:30 am


I know nitrous is pretty dangerous stuff if you don't know what you're doing. Also, even though the NOS-bottles and similar do provide a pretty good jump in power, you've got to keep in mind the weight of the bottles, as well as the fact that, like all bottles, they'll run empty soon enough. I guess you could call it consumable horsepower.

Turbos are a different story for the most part, though. Even though it does require some mechanical stuff in the engine compartment, and needs to get up to a certain engine speed before it'll kick in, I'd say it's a better purchase, in the long run, than a bottle of nitrous is.

As for all the old-fashioned ways of working on the engine (boring, tuning, etc), yeah, it's a lot of work, but yeah, it pays off big time. Like they say, "There's no replacement for displacement." If you've got turbos and nitrous on a stock Civic engine, just think of how much better it could be if you had the same stuff on a Hemi V-8, or if you wanna go wild, a Viper V-10

Jayden Kelvari


Tomatoman
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:26 pm


Arent Hemis and the Viper engine N/A? I didnt think you could turbo those. Or at least I've never heard of anyone doing it... 3nodding
PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:09 pm


Jayden Kelvari
"There's no replacement for displacement."
Yeah, unless you have technology on your side 3nodding
Money aside, throwing a turbo into a civic is much more practical than throwing in a V8 because a turbo will give you the same horsepower without the grossly imense wieght that a V8 block would add.
Also, the fastest Japanese cars right now are all 3L or smaller engines with low comp ratios. This allows for better accomidation of infinitely high boost that you see in Skylines (2.6L), Supras (3.0L) and LanEvo's (2.0L).

SuperUmeMan
Crew


Jayden Kelvari

PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:07 pm


Oh crap! I hit the edit button instead of the quote button sweatdrop gonk xp sweatdrop
Sorrry Jayden!!!!!!!!!


-Tomatoman-
PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:59 pm


Anyway, aside from that faux pau, What Jayden said was something about the Vecor W8 having 2 possible engines, the Lamborgini V12 or the Corvette V8.

What my responce was was, Jayden, wouldnt W8 imply a W style engine and not a v shaped engin?

Maybe thats just me... blaugh sweatdrop

Tomatoman
Vice Captain


SuperUmeMan
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:54 am


How's a W-shaped engine work? Is that like the M12 engine in the Volkswagon Phaeton?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 7:35 am


The Bugatti Veron super car has a W-16 engine, here is the watchamacallits.

Bugatti
How stuff works (Bugatti Veron)

Super Panda454


Tomatoman
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:26 pm


Think of the pistons in a V shape
In this diagram, the P's represent the piston heads and the v's the rods. This top down view represents whow they are in a V shape. This is a V8:
PvvP
PvvP
PvvP
PvvP


A W 16 would look like this:

PvvPPvvP
PvvPPvvP
PvvPPvvP
PvvPPvvP

It really is kinda hard to describe without pics, but its basically like the V engines are in a V shape and W engines are in a W shape

xd
Im really doing a bad job of explaining thin, but I have to type quick sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:01 pm


So having a W16 engine is basically the same as having 2 V8's in the same engine bay? Are there seperate crank shafts for each side too, or do they all run off of a common one?

SuperUmeMan
Crew


SuperUmeMan
Crew

PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:06 pm


Nevermind, I found my answers on the website sweatdrop
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