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Zan Alexander

PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:20 pm


Celestial Moon
~Do all the Sailorscouts end up with each other then? It certainly seems that way. (Except Usagi and Mamoru of course, and possibly Pluto and Saturn)

~ SailorStars - guys or girls?! or both..... eek


Actually SailorMoon does end up with a Sailor senshi, Mamo-chan is the senshi of earth
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:21 pm


Hotaru-hime
Question from the manga:
Remember that sword Minako gets from Queen Selenity when they go to the Moon and later kills Beryl with it? Whatever happened to the sword?


Okay, if you wonder anything like that, like the sword and other senshi gear, Naoko has it on her desk at home xd

Zan Alexander


Hotaru-hime

PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:02 pm


SailorZanarkand
Hotaru-hime
Question from the manga:
Remember that sword Minako gets from Queen Selenity when they go to the Moon and later kills Beryl with it? Whatever happened to the sword?


Okay, if you wonder anything like that, like the sword and other senshi gear, Naoko has it on her desk at home xd

Naoko!!!??? stressed Don't be so familiar! *whacks you with a harisen* That's Takeuchi-sama to you!!
Hmph! Naoko!
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:01 am


Wakka_Strife
ScorpionOcean
This is meant to be a fun thread so contribute whatever you can think of 3nodding

How come Fiore of the R movie was the only person to recognize Sailormoon as Usagi?

Yeah that always kind of bugged me... Just all of a sudden he's like "hey, you're Sailor Moon!" But no other villan in the entire series could figure it out.


I have to agree. When i first saw that movie and he goes "hey your Sailor Moon" when no villian or any other character could tell she was Sailor Moon its annoying yet shocking that he was the one to look past the whole transformation and say she was Sailor Moon. What about her earth mother? Surely that hair style she ALWAYS wears gave her some sort of suspisious feeling when she saw Sailor Moon and her own DAUGHTER. There is NO ONE else in the series who had that odango style hair so whats with Fiore being able to see and no one else? I thought that hair style would of totally given it away.

Demonic Curse


Demonic Curse

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:07 am


I also hate when people think that Sailor Earth doesnt exsist. We, the people of earth, have the ever so hot Tuxedo mask as our defender but people think that SM is a girls anime so they never mention Tuxedo Mask for the fact that, i guess, he is always on earth so since we are on earth he is not mentioned as a "scout" for the fact that he isnt from some other planet in the solor system. I have ALWAYS concidered him a scout just that people think he doesnt count because he isnt wearing a way to short skirt....

Though i do wonder what on earth the maker was thinking. She said in an interview i read once that she wanted to mae this an all female anime so she made it all scouts though when asked "what about Tuxedo Kamen" she replied "I dont really think of him as one of the Sailor Scouts" so i dont know whats going on there...
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 3:25 pm


Demonic Curse
I also hate when people think that Sailor Earth doesnt exsist. We, the people of earth, have the ever so hot Tuxedo mask as our defender but people think that SM is a girls anime so they never mention Tuxedo Mask for the fact that, i guess, he is always on earth so since we are on earth he is not mentioned as a "scout" for the fact that he isnt from some other planet in the solor system. I have ALWAYS concidered him a scout just that people think he doesnt count because he isnt wearing a way to short skirt....

Though i do wonder what on earth the maker was thinking. She said in an interview i read once that she wanted to mae this an all female anime so she made it all scouts though when asked "what about Tuxedo Kamen" she replied "I dont really think of him as one of the Sailor Scouts" so i dont know whats going on there...


Technically, Tuxedo Kamen does not qualify as "Sailor Earth." Only girls can be Sailor Senshi - Takeuchi herself said that. While he does carry the Sailor Crystal of Earth, and is the protector of his planet -much like the Sailor Senshi are the protectors of their respective planets- he still cannot be called "Sailor Earth" because he is male. So while be may he a "senshi" (soldier), he is not a "sailor senshi."

And as to why Takeuchi made the carrier of Earth's Sailor Crystal male - all shoujo manga need a love interest! 3nodding

Orange Skirt


Demonic Curse

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 3:59 pm


Orange Skirt
Demonic Curse
I also hate when people think that Sailor Earth doesnt exsist. We, the people of earth, have the ever so hot Tuxedo mask as our defender but people think that SM is a girls anime so they never mention Tuxedo Mask for the fact that, i guess, he is always on earth so since we are on earth he is not mentioned as a "scout" for the fact that he isnt from some other planet in the solor system. I have ALWAYS concidered him a scout just that people think he doesnt count because he isnt wearing a way to short skirt....

Though i do wonder what on earth the maker was thinking. She said in an interview i read once that she wanted to mae this an all female anime so she made it all scouts though when asked "what about Tuxedo Kamen" she replied "I dont really think of him as one of the Sailor Scouts" so i dont know whats going on there...


Technically, Tuxedo Kamen does not qualify as "Sailor Earth." Only girls can be Sailor Senshi - Takeuchi herself said that. While he does carry the Sailor Crystal of Earth, and is the protector of his planet -much like the Sailor Senshi are the protectors of their respective planets- he still cannot be called "Sailor Earth" because he is male. So while be may he a "senshi" (soldier), he is not a "sailor senshi."

And as to why Takeuchi made the carrier of Earth's Sailor Crystal male - all shoujo manga need a love interest! 3nodding

Though you forget one thing. A "sailor" can be either male or female which means that even though he isnt wearing a sailor suit (like the girls) he can still be classed as a sailor.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:56 pm


Demonic Curse
Though you forget one thing. A "sailor" can be either male or female which means that even though he isnt wearing a sailor suit (like the girls) he can still be classed as a sailor.


Granted, that's true if you count the phages in Stars (Sailor Guts, etc.) - but they were not real Sailor Senshi. They were just people with ordinary star seeds who got turned into monsters-of-the-day. If we're getting into anime logic, Tuxedo Kamen never did turn into a phage, and never would, because he is the carrier of a true star seed. In this case, Tuxedo Kamen cannot be classified as a "sailor" because he can't turn into a phage who calls himself "Sailor" Whatever.

The only way Tuxedo Kamen can be called a "sailor" is if he goes to a costume shop and starts singing sea shanties out on a dock somewhere.

Orange Skirt


Demonic Curse

PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:42 pm


Orange Skirt
Demonic Curse
Though you forget one thing. A "sailor" can be either male or female which means that even though he isnt wearing a sailor suit (like the girls) he can still be classed as a sailor.


Granted, that's true if you count the phages in Stars (Sailor Guts, etc.) - but they were not real Sailor Senshi. They were just people with ordinary star seeds who got turned into monsters-of-the-day. If we're getting into anime logic, Tuxedo Kamen never did turn into a phage, and never would, because he is the carrier of a true star seed. In this case, Tuxedo Kamen cannot be classified as a "sailor" because he can't turn into a phage who calls himself "Sailor" Whatever.

The only way Tuxedo Kamen can be called a "sailor" is if he goes to a costume shop and starts singing sea shanties out on a dock somewhere.


But if i recall those bad guys were there to mock Sailor Moon that is all. Kicking butt is what happend in the end and it was thiers (the bad guys) as well. Though i could say the the same goes with the real sailor scouts. Unless they are singing some old sea dog songs on the edge of a dock they shouldnt be considered sailor scouts either even if they are in what looks like sailor suits.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:30 am


Why is it, in the dubbed version, do they edit out that bit of green skirt on Jupiter's arse. I used to think that it was her undies, so I knew why they erased it... it just looks weird because they don't even draw the line of her legs going up, it just stops and there's this pink skin-coloured blob.

Anyway, I used to think they were undies, but I realised that they all haev white ones because it's part of their fuku - it's like, a bathing suit with a skirt... so it must've just been a skirt ruffle they removed because it's green in the Jap version when she does her henshin, not white. Hmmm. Just confuses me.

LamingtonQueen


Rakinu417

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:08 am


I will return and hopefully try to answer some questions, although I have not finished the Manga yet as it is quite difficult to find these days... o.o() I am merely marking this page so that I can return to it more easily.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:39 pm


alright, after reading the manga I have plenty of questions that BEG to be answered. Remember these pertain to the manga ONLY.

1.During the R arc, Chibiusa had a ginzuishou around her neck. But whose ginzuishou was it? Was it her ginzuishou (the pink moon crystal) or was it Neo Queen Serenity's ginzuishou? Which I had assumed absorbed into Chibiusa's skin and that was the ginzuishou that came out through her tear when Pluto died...

2. so the time door...is that the ONLY time door there is and does it only lead to the 30th century? what if someone wants to go to the 50th century? Is there another door for that? and who guards that one since the time doors are oh so important?

3.and does Pluto KNOW all that happens throughout the time line or does she only know what happens in front of that door?

4.And whose rules are those that say she cant let people go through the time door, and she can't stop time? Who made up those rules because King Endymion told her to give time key to Sailormoon and she just gave it up and Sailormoon and her group were running back and forth throughout time.

5.so basically whoever is the queen of the Silver Millenium dictates what Pluto does. Neo Queen reincarnated her and sent her on a new mission, so who the hell is watching the time door?? I thought guarding the door was important??

6. OHH, and what the hell happened to Neo Queen Serenity when Usagi and the rest were sent to the 30th century? What happened to the whole earth frezing thing?? what happened to Chibiusa, what century did she go to when she reappeared, couldn't have been the 30th century because Usagi of present day is now there.

I think that's it for now, but rest assured I'll have more! I'm only on manga #7 (old version)

ScorpionOcean
Captain


Orange Skirt

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:07 pm


ScorpionOcean

1.During the R arc, Chibiusa had a ginzuishou around her neck. But whose ginzuishou was it? Was it her ginzuishou (the pink moon crystal) or was it Neo Queen Serenity's ginzuishou? Which I had assumed absorbed into Chibiusa's skin and that was the ginzuishou that came out through her tear when Pluto died...


Chibiusa took Neo Queen Serenity's ginzuishou and brought it with her to the past, thinking she would be able to use it. It was the one of the crystals which Usagi took out of Demand's hands (the ginzuishou of the past, and the ginzuishou of the future). Yet another ginzuishou, Chibiusa's tear, is her very own crystal, which would later become the Pink Moon Crystal.

ScorpionOcean

4.And whose rules are those that say she cant let people go through the time door, and she can't stop time? Who made up those rules because King Endymion told her to give time key to Sailormoon and she just gave it up and Sailormoon and her group were running back and forth throughout time.


Since it seems Queen Serenity was the one who gave Pluto her duties as guardian of the space-time door, I'd say they were her rules originally. Of course, that really remains to be seen. We don't know if there was another guardian before the Sailor Pluto we see at the beginning. (I wouldn't think so, since Charon Castle was given to Pluto by Queen Serenity upon her birth, and Guardian Pluto looks exactly like the Sailor Pluto we know).

But then again, since it's said that Sailor Pluto's father is Chronos, maybe they're his rules? He is the God of Time after all.

And I'd think it wouldn't matter who travels through time if a) the world is about to end, b) if the enemy knows about the door, and can also travel through time, or c) if the King of Earth asks nicely enough for a key.

ScorpionOcean

5.so basically whoever is the queen of the Silver Millenium dictates what Pluto does. Neo Queen reincarnated her and sent her on a new mission, so who the hell is watching the time door?? I thought guarding the door was important??


This is kind of explained (not really) in later volumes of the manga, but I'm under the impression that there are two Sailor Plutos. Don't ask me how it's possible, because I really don't have an answer, but while Setsuna is fighting as Sailor Pluto in the past (in her "eternal" power-up costume), we also see Neo-Queen Serenity talking to a Sailor Pluto guarding the door in the future (in her "super" power-up costume).

But then my whole theory is turned on its head when Setsuna is regenerated like the rest at the end of Stars, and is sent to the 30th Century. From there, I guess, she's destined to be the Pluto that dies to save Earth from the Black Moon. But I honestly have no idea where or when the "super" Pluto came from.

ScorpionOcean

6. OHH, and what the hell happened to Neo Queen Serenity when Usagi and the rest were sent to the 30th century? What happened to the whole earth frezing thing?? what happened to Chibiusa, what century did she go to when she reappeared, couldn't have been the 30th century because Usagi of present day is now there.


I thought the Earth freezing theory was only brought up in the anime? Anyway, remember that Chibiusa, and Crystal Tokyo as well, are over 900 years old. Chibiusa must have been sent back to the time she came from, while Usagi was sent to the 30th Century 900 years before that (and conceives Chibiusa after she and Mamoru are married).
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:22 pm


There are two Plutos in the manga. The first one appeared in the Black Moon story arc. At the end, she was killed for stopping time. In the arc afterwards, she is discovered to be reincarnated as Setsuna. She is called when she is attacked by a Daimon and Uranus and Neptune rescue her. She stays on as a full time senshi. Cut to the future, there is another Pluto guarding the time gate. This, I believe, is her future counterpart. 3nodding

In the anime, there is only one Pluto. She leaves her post from the time gate every once in a while to help the past. That's what I think, at least.

Marvel Boy


phantomkitsune

Dangerous Enabler

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:21 pm


ScorpionOcean
And a question bout Sailor V...who is Boss?? Who was that talking to her through that pen?? eek
I always just thought that was Luna.


And for Pluto, well, hasn't it seemd like there were other rules they all had to follow? I just thought that was one of those.
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