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 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:13 pm
Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant You are misinformed. Jesus fulfilled all the prophesies concerning His first coming. It was prophesied that He would be born in Bethlehem by a virgin. It was prophesied that He would be betrayed for thirty shekels of silver. It was prophesied that people could receive healing just by touching the corner of His clothes. It was prophesied that He would arrive in Jerusalem on a young donkey. He even said who He was. There are tons more fulfilled prophesies. And it's common knowledge that fallen angels often masquerade as angels of light. YOU are misinformed, the donkey was about a military leader, He STILL didn't come in a time of peace and STILL didn't bulid the 3rd temple in Jerusalem, andf no where in the Old Testament does it refer to the Messaih as a demigod. I have nothing againbst Jesus and there is a chance he was, but there is also the chance he was not. And Gabriel is not a fallen angel. THe Heavens should be insulted that you would scorn and hate one of their best. Wait, wasn't it Gabriel who told Mary she was pregant with Jesus, the son of God? Since, according to you, Gabriel was a fallen angel we can consider this a lie. 1. It's the second coming when Jesus will conquer everything. 2. Jesus isn't a demigod. He is part of the Trinity. 3. I am not saying that Gabriel is a fallen angel; I am saying that any fallen angel could claim to be an angel from God. Test the spirit! The point is the Old Testament didn't mention the Messiah being a God at all. OK, then what? The only way for JEsus to truely conquer all is to destory free will, and that doesn;t seem very just or godly. Last I checked Fallen angels where...what's that place called? In Hell! As much as Earth resembles Hell they are two different places. Actually, the Old Testament did, and Jesus referred to it. I'll look it up after I get back. Umm, doesn't follow that to conquer is to destroy free will. rolleyes According to the Bible, fallen angels and demons and such do roam about the earth. So Earth IS Hell! I knew it! For Jesus to reign supreme at the End of Armegetten, he must be unopposed, in order to be unopposed he must force everyone to belive in him, thus free will is lost. Even so, he still didn't come in an age where everyone was Jewish, didn't bulid that temple, and didn't lead the world to an age of peace, in fact Christianity has caused even more war.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:00 pm
Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant You are misinformed. Jesus fulfilled all the prophesies concerning His first coming. It was prophesied that He would be born in Bethlehem by a virgin. It was prophesied that He would be betrayed for thirty shekels of silver. It was prophesied that people could receive healing just by touching the corner of His clothes. It was prophesied that He would arrive in Jerusalem on a young donkey. He even said who He was. There are tons more fulfilled prophesies. And it's common knowledge that fallen angels often masquerade as angels of light. YOU are misinformed, the donkey was about a military leader, He STILL didn't come in a time of peace and STILL didn't bulid the 3rd temple in Jerusalem, andf no where in the Old Testament does it refer to the Messaih as a demigod. I have nothing againbst Jesus and there is a chance he was, but there is also the chance he was not. And Gabriel is not a fallen angel. THe Heavens should be insulted that you would scorn and hate one of their best. Wait, wasn't it Gabriel who told Mary she was pregant with Jesus, the son of God? Since, according to you, Gabriel was a fallen angel we can consider this a lie. 1. It's the second coming when Jesus will conquer everything. 2. Jesus isn't a demigod. He is part of the Trinity. 3. I am not saying that Gabriel is a fallen angel; I am saying that any fallen angel could claim to be an angel from God. Test the spirit! The point is the Old Testament didn't mention the Messiah being a God at all. OK, then what? The only way for JEsus to truely conquer all is to destory free will, and that doesn;t seem very just or godly. Last I checked Fallen angels where...what's that place called? In Hell! As much as Earth resembles Hell they are two different places. Actually, the Old Testament did, and Jesus referred to it. I'll look it up after I get back. Umm, doesn't follow that to conquer is to destroy free will. rolleyes According to the Bible, fallen angels and demons and such do roam about the earth. So Earth IS Hell! I knew it! For Jesus to reign supreme at the End of Armegetten, he must be unopposed, in order to be unopposed he must force everyone to belive in him, thus free will is lost. Even so, he still didn't come in an age where everyone was Jewish, didn't bulid that temple, and didn't lead the world to an age of peace, in fact Christianity has caused even more war. Personally I'm not convinced in the traditional hell. The Bible mentions a fiery pit where the Satan and his angels are cast along with those who died in the second death, but that isn't hell because it isn't the home of Satan and his demons now. They don't have a home. The Bible says that Satan was cast down to the earth. The closest the Bible comes to the traditional concept of hell is the pit or the grave mentioned in Psalms and Proverbs. Even so, that isn't hell. I think people got the concept from ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Nordic mythologies of the underworld. The Bible talks about a sign appearing in the sky proclaiming Jesus in the end times and everyone will realize the truth. People nowadays believe that the earth circles the sun. Does that mean we have no free will? Of course not. And as I said before, now is not after Jesus's second coming. We have yet to experience peace.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:23 pm
Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant 1. It's the second coming when Jesus will conquer everything. 2. Jesus isn't a demigod. He is part of the Trinity. 3. I am not saying that Gabriel is a fallen angel; I am saying that any fallen angel could claim to be an angel from God. Test the spirit! The point is the Old Testament didn't mention the Messiah being a God at all. OK, then what? The only way for JEsus to truely conquer all is to destory free will, and that doesn;t seem very just or godly. Last I checked Fallen angels where...what's that place called? In Hell! As much as Earth resembles Hell they are two different places. Actually, the Old Testament did, and Jesus referred to it. I'll look it up after I get back. Umm, doesn't follow that to conquer is to destroy free will. rolleyes According to the Bible, fallen angels and demons and such do roam about the earth. So Earth IS Hell! I knew it! For Jesus to reign supreme at the End of Armegetten, he must be unopposed, in order to be unopposed he must force everyone to belive in him, thus free will is lost. Even so, he still didn't come in an age where everyone was Jewish, didn't bulid that temple, and didn't lead the world to an age of peace, in fact Christianity has caused even more war. Personally I'm not convinced in the traditional hell. The Bible mentions a fiery pit where the Satan and his angels are cast along with those who died in the second death, but that isn't hell because it isn't the home of Satan and his demons now. They don't have a home. The Bible says that Satan was cast down to the earth. The closest the Bible comes to the traditional concept of hell is the pit or the grave mentioned in Psalms and Proverbs. Even so, that isn't hell. I think people got the concept from ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Nordic mythologies of the underworld. The Bible talks about a sign appearing in the sky proclaiming Jesus in the end times and everyone will realize the truth. People nowadays believe that the earth circles the sun. Does that mean we have no free will? Of course not. And as I said before, now is not after Jesus's second coming. We have yet to experience peace. Free will: People thinking what they want to think. If we are forced to belive or worship one thing. That is not free will. The Messiah will come in a unified world, not happened, A Jewish world, not happened,bulid that temple, not happened, and lead us to peace, not happened. Your post has not convinced me ogf anything, just solidifed my opinion of you as one of the brainwashed drones that belives whatever the church feeds you. I pity you.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:51 pm
Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant 1. It's the second coming when Jesus will conquer everything. 2. Jesus isn't a demigod. He is part of the Trinity. 3. I am not saying that Gabriel is a fallen angel; I am saying that any fallen angel could claim to be an angel from God. Test the spirit! The point is the Old Testament didn't mention the Messiah being a God at all. OK, then what? The only way for JEsus to truely conquer all is to destory free will, and that doesn;t seem very just or godly. Last I checked Fallen angels where...what's that place called? In Hell! As much as Earth resembles Hell they are two different places. Actually, the Old Testament did, and Jesus referred to it. I'll look it up after I get back. Umm, doesn't follow that to conquer is to destroy free will. rolleyes According to the Bible, fallen angels and demons and such do roam about the earth. So Earth IS Hell! I knew it! For Jesus to reign supreme at the End of Armegetten, he must be unopposed, in order to be unopposed he must force everyone to belive in him, thus free will is lost. Even so, he still didn't come in an age where everyone was Jewish, didn't bulid that temple, and didn't lead the world to an age of peace, in fact Christianity has caused even more war. Personally I'm not convinced in the traditional hell. The Bible mentions a fiery pit where the Satan and his angels are cast along with those who died in the second death, but that isn't hell because it isn't the home of Satan and his demons now. They don't have a home. The Bible says that Satan was cast down to the earth. The closest the Bible comes to the traditional concept of hell is the pit or the grave mentioned in Psalms and Proverbs. Even so, that isn't hell. I think people got the concept from ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Nordic mythologies of the underworld. The Bible talks about a sign appearing in the sky proclaiming Jesus in the end times and everyone will realize the truth. People nowadays believe that the earth circles the sun. Does that mean we have no free will? Of course not. And as I said before, now is not after Jesus's second coming. We have yet to experience peace. Free will: People thinking what they want to think. If we are forced to belive or worship one thing. That is not free will. The Messiah will come in a unified world, not happened, A Jewish world, not happened,bulid that temple, not happened, and lead us to peace, not happened. Your post has not convinced me ogf anything, just solidifed my opinion of you as one of the brainwashed drones that belives whatever the church feeds you. I pity you. I don't go to church. O.o I read the Bible. And according to the Bible, Jesus will not come to a unified Jewish world. The temple will have been rebuilt before then and the abomination that causes desolation will have happened as well. Peace comes later, later, later. I don't mix and match my beliefs from multiple religions or from summaries and traditions of texts. I read the Bible and if what someone says doesn't match up, even if it is a respected pastor or even an angel, I will disregard them.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:29 am
Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Actually, the Old Testament did, and Jesus referred to it. I'll look it up after I get back. Umm, doesn't follow that to conquer is to destroy free will. rolleyes According to the Bible, fallen angels and demons and such do roam about the earth. So Earth IS Hell! I knew it! For Jesus to reign supreme at the End of Armegetten, he must be unopposed, in order to be unopposed he must force everyone to belive in him, thus free will is lost. Even so, he still didn't come in an age where everyone was Jewish, didn't bulid that temple, and didn't lead the world to an age of peace, in fact Christianity has caused even more war. Personally I'm not convinced in the traditional hell. The Bible mentions a fiery pit where the Satan and his angels are cast along with those who died in the second death, but that isn't hell because it isn't the home of Satan and his demons now. They don't have a home. The Bible says that Satan was cast down to the earth. The closest the Bible comes to the traditional concept of hell is the pit or the grave mentioned in Psalms and Proverbs. Even so, that isn't hell. I think people got the concept from ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Nordic mythologies of the underworld. The Bible talks about a sign appearing in the sky proclaiming Jesus in the end times and everyone will realize the truth. People nowadays believe that the earth circles the sun. Does that mean we have no free will? Of course not. And as I said before, now is not after Jesus's second coming. We have yet to experience peace. Free will: People thinking what they want to think. If we are forced to belive or worship one thing. That is not free will. The Messiah will come in a unified world, not happened, A Jewish world, not happened,bulid that temple, not happened, and lead us to peace, not happened. Your post has not convinced me ogf anything, just solidifed my opinion of you as one of the brainwashed drones that belives whatever the church feeds you. I pity you. I don't go to church. O.o I read the Bible. And according to the Bible, Jesus will not come to a unified Jewish world. The temple will have been rebuilt before then and the abomination that causes desolation will have happened as well. Peace comes later, later, later. I don't mix and match my beliefs from multiple religions or from summaries and traditions of texts. I read the Bible and if what someone says doesn't match up, even if it is a respected pastor or even an angel, I will disregard them. Even an angel? The bible was written, edited, reedited, and proboly even butchered by HUMANS. No God nor angel has written even a word of that.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:45 pm
Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Actually, the Old Testament did, and Jesus referred to it. I'll look it up after I get back. Umm, doesn't follow that to conquer is to destroy free will. rolleyes According to the Bible, fallen angels and demons and such do roam about the earth. So Earth IS Hell! I knew it! For Jesus to reign supreme at the End of Armegetten, he must be unopposed, in order to be unopposed he must force everyone to belive in him, thus free will is lost. Even so, he still didn't come in an age where everyone was Jewish, didn't bulid that temple, and didn't lead the world to an age of peace, in fact Christianity has caused even more war. Personally I'm not convinced in the traditional hell. The Bible mentions a fiery pit where the Satan and his angels are cast along with those who died in the second death, but that isn't hell because it isn't the home of Satan and his demons now. They don't have a home. The Bible says that Satan was cast down to the earth. The closest the Bible comes to the traditional concept of hell is the pit or the grave mentioned in Psalms and Proverbs. Even so, that isn't hell. I think people got the concept from ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Nordic mythologies of the underworld. The Bible talks about a sign appearing in the sky proclaiming Jesus in the end times and everyone will realize the truth. People nowadays believe that the earth circles the sun. Does that mean we have no free will? Of course not. And as I said before, now is not after Jesus's second coming. We have yet to experience peace. Free will: People thinking what they want to think. If we are forced to belive or worship one thing. That is not free will. The Messiah will come in a unified world, not happened, A Jewish world, not happened,bulid that temple, not happened, and lead us to peace, not happened. Your post has not convinced me ogf anything, just solidifed my opinion of you as one of the brainwashed drones that belives whatever the church feeds you. I pity you. I don't go to church. O.o I read the Bible. And according to the Bible, Jesus will not come to a unified Jewish world. The temple will have been rebuilt before then and the abomination that causes desolation will have happened as well. Peace comes later, later, later. I don't mix and match my beliefs from multiple religions or from summaries and traditions of texts. I read the Bible and if what someone says doesn't match up, even if it is a respected pastor or even an angel, I will disregard them. Even an angel? The bible was written, edited, reedited, and proboly even butchered by HUMANS. No God nor angel has written even a word of that. I have to trust something. Experience and observation are flawed. What then can I turn to except special revelation? If it is flawed too, then I have no basis for living, no truth to hold fast to. I would cease to exist as a rational human being--I would be a vegetable, knowing nothing, understanding less than nothing. I believe that people, inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, and in parts, recorded the very words of God. The Bible is my guide book to life. I have personally experienced miracles, I've heard the voice of Jesus, I've feel the joy of the Lord. It is something to hold fast to, despite persecution, despite lies.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:53 pm
Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Personally I'm not convinced in the traditional hell. The Bible mentions a fiery pit where the Satan and his angels are cast along with those who died in the second death, but that isn't hell because it isn't the home of Satan and his demons now. They don't have a home. The Bible says that Satan was cast down to the earth. The closest the Bible comes to the traditional concept of hell is the pit or the grave mentioned in Psalms and Proverbs. Even so, that isn't hell. I think people got the concept from ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Nordic mythologies of the underworld. The Bible talks about a sign appearing in the sky proclaiming Jesus in the end times and everyone will realize the truth. People nowadays believe that the earth circles the sun. Does that mean we have no free will? Of course not. And as I said before, now is not after Jesus's second coming. We have yet to experience peace. Free will: People thinking what they want to think. If we are forced to belive or worship one thing. That is not free will. The Messiah will come in a unified world, not happened, A Jewish world, not happened,bulid that temple, not happened, and lead us to peace, not happened. Your post has not convinced me ogf anything, just solidifed my opinion of you as one of the brainwashed drones that belives whatever the church feeds you. I pity you. I don't go to church. O.o I read the Bible. And according to the Bible, Jesus will not come to a unified Jewish world. The temple will have been rebuilt before then and the abomination that causes desolation will have happened as well. Peace comes later, later, later. I don't mix and match my beliefs from multiple religions or from summaries and traditions of texts. I read the Bible and if what someone says doesn't match up, even if it is a respected pastor or even an angel, I will disregard them. Even an angel? The bible was written, edited, reedited, and proboly even butchered by HUMANS. No God nor angel has written even a word of that. I have to trust something. Experience and observation are flawed. What then can I turn to except special revelation? If it is flawed too, then I have no basis for living, no truth to hold fast to. I would cease to exist as a rational human being--I would be a vegetable, knowing nothing, understanding less than nothing. I believe that people, inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, and in parts, recorded the very words of God. The Bible is my guide book to life. I have personally experienced miracles, I've heard the voice of Jesus, I've feel the joy of the Lord. It is something to hold fast to, despite persecution, despite lies. I see, but while YOU may see it as infallable, people see it as flawed. It's all a matter of perception and opinion. Maybe people should take that into account before forcing there beliefs on people. I'm sorry about this.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:00 pm
Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Personally I'm not convinced in the traditional hell. The Bible mentions a fiery pit where the Satan and his angels are cast along with those who died in the second death, but that isn't hell because it isn't the home of Satan and his demons now. They don't have a home. The Bible says that Satan was cast down to the earth. The closest the Bible comes to the traditional concept of hell is the pit or the grave mentioned in Psalms and Proverbs. Even so, that isn't hell. I think people got the concept from ancient Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Nordic mythologies of the underworld. The Bible talks about a sign appearing in the sky proclaiming Jesus in the end times and everyone will realize the truth. People nowadays believe that the earth circles the sun. Does that mean we have no free will? Of course not. And as I said before, now is not after Jesus's second coming. We have yet to experience peace. Free will: People thinking what they want to think. If we are forced to belive or worship one thing. That is not free will. The Messiah will come in a unified world, not happened, A Jewish world, not happened,bulid that temple, not happened, and lead us to peace, not happened. Your post has not convinced me ogf anything, just solidifed my opinion of you as one of the brainwashed drones that belives whatever the church feeds you. I pity you. I don't go to church. O.o I read the Bible. And according to the Bible, Jesus will not come to a unified Jewish world. The temple will have been rebuilt before then and the abomination that causes desolation will have happened as well. Peace comes later, later, later. I don't mix and match my beliefs from multiple religions or from summaries and traditions of texts. I read the Bible and if what someone says doesn't match up, even if it is a respected pastor or even an angel, I will disregard them. Even an angel? The bible was written, edited, reedited, and proboly even butchered by HUMANS. No God nor angel has written even a word of that. I have to trust something. Experience and observation are flawed. What then can I turn to except special revelation? If it is flawed too, then I have no basis for living, no truth to hold fast to. I would cease to exist as a rational human being--I would be a vegetable, knowing nothing, understanding less than nothing. I believe that people, inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, and in parts, recorded the very words of God. The Bible is my guide book to life. I have personally experienced miracles, I've heard the voice of Jesus, I've feel the joy of the Lord. It is something to hold fast to, despite persecution, despite lies. I see, but while YOU may see it as infallable, people see it as flawed. It's all a matter of perception and opinion. Maybe people should take that into account before forcing there beliefs on people. I'm sorry about this. Requesting permission to shout "POSTMODERNIST!" Sorry, but I believe there is a truth correspondence with reality, no matter the opinion. Postmodernism is very very flawed. Just because the prevalent beliefs of the time said that the earth was the center of the universe and Galileo was a heretic for saying otherwise, didn't make the earth really the center! Truth exists! Reality exists!
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:12 pm
Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant I don't go to church. O.o I read the Bible. And according to the Bible, Jesus will not come to a unified Jewish world. The temple will have been rebuilt before then and the abomination that causes desolation will have happened as well. Peace comes later, later, later. I don't mix and match my beliefs from multiple religions or from summaries and traditions of texts. I read the Bible and if what someone says doesn't match up, even if it is a respected pastor or even an angel, I will disregard them. Even an angel? The bible was written, edited, reedited, and proboly even butchered by HUMANS. No God nor angel has written even a word of that. I have to trust something. Experience and observation are flawed. What then can I turn to except special revelation? If it is flawed too, then I have no basis for living, no truth to hold fast to. I would cease to exist as a rational human being--I would be a vegetable, knowing nothing, understanding less than nothing. I believe that people, inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, and in parts, recorded the very words of God. The Bible is my guide book to life. I have personally experienced miracles, I've heard the voice of Jesus, I've feel the joy of the Lord. It is something to hold fast to, despite persecution, despite lies. I see, but while YOU may see it as infallable, people see it as flawed. It's all a matter of perception and opinion. Maybe people should take that into account before forcing there beliefs on people. I'm sorry about this. Requesting permission to shout "POSTMODERNIST!" Sorry, but I believe there is a truth correspondence with reality, no matter the opinion. Postmodernism is very very flawed. Just because the prevalent beliefs of the time said that the earth was the center of the universe and Galileo was a heretic for saying otherwise, didn't make the earth really the center! Truth exists! Reality exists! OK, if I am a postmodernest, whatever that is, then your a thoughtless religous nut who uses their faith to torture people even though they don't even fully know there religon's beliefs. But I know your not that bad. Right? And I belive what I want to belive, because it is based on as many facts as the faiths of the time. If you don't like it, stop bitching.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:37 pm
Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant Wei Stan14 Britomartis-the-Valiant I don't go to church. O.o I read the Bible. And according to the Bible, Jesus will not come to a unified Jewish world. The temple will have been rebuilt before then and the abomination that causes desolation will have happened as well. Peace comes later, later, later. I don't mix and match my beliefs from multiple religions or from summaries and traditions of texts. I read the Bible and if what someone says doesn't match up, even if it is a respected pastor or even an angel, I will disregard them. Even an angel? The bible was written, edited, reedited, and proboly even butchered by HUMANS. No God nor angel has written even a word of that. I have to trust something. Experience and observation are flawed. What then can I turn to except special revelation? If it is flawed too, then I have no basis for living, no truth to hold fast to. I would cease to exist as a rational human being--I would be a vegetable, knowing nothing, understanding less than nothing. I believe that people, inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, and in parts, recorded the very words of God. The Bible is my guide book to life. I have personally experienced miracles, I've heard the voice of Jesus, I've feel the joy of the Lord. It is something to hold fast to, despite persecution, despite lies. I see, but while YOU may see it as infallable, people see it as flawed. It's all a matter of perception and opinion. Maybe people should take that into account before forcing there beliefs on people. I'm sorry about this. Requesting permission to shout "POSTMODERNIST!" Sorry, but I believe there is a truth correspondence with reality, no matter the opinion. Postmodernism is very very flawed. Just because the prevalent beliefs of the time said that the earth was the center of the universe and Galileo was a heretic for saying otherwise, didn't make the earth really the center! Truth exists! Reality exists! OK, if I am a postmodernest, whatever that is, then your a thoughtless religous nut who uses their faith to torture people even though they don't even fully know there religon's beliefs. But I know your not that bad. Right? And I belive what I want to belive, because it is based on as many facts as the faiths of the time. If you don't like it, stop bitching. Contrary to popular thought, I have actually never burned anyone at the stake, not even in my mind. However, as a Christian, I expect my own life to be short and to end violently. I never try to shove what I know of truth down people's throats. I will, however, answer questions and clear up misunderstandings. Please don't feel challenged by solidity of my beliefs.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:28 pm
I think that anyone who is against it has no valid reason. If you say it's because it's against your religion, that's what you belive, not everyone belives the same thing you do. If you say it's against God and he doesn't like it, isn't that hypoctritical of you? Because God is the one who is supposed to judge, not you. Also, if you say it's just gross, that is 100% your opinion and shouldn't even be taken into account when it comes to gay marriage.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:41 pm
crazygirl879 I think that anyone who is against it has no valid reason. If you say it's because it's against your religion, that's what you belive, not everyone belives the same thing you do. If you say it's against God and he doesn't like it, isn't that hypoctritical of you? Because God is the one who is supposed to judge, not you. Also, if you say it's just gross, that is 100% your opinion and shouldn't even be taken into account when it comes to gay marriage. In my first couple responses, I did not even refer to my beliefs to justify my position. I do not expect other people to respect my religious beliefs on the subject. Instead, I offered an argument based on sociology. In general, homosexual relationships tend to be less monogamous and more unstable than heterosexual ones. Kids growing up in that atmosphere in the future will have trouble relating to other people that are not of the sex of their parents. To allow gay marriage would imply redefining marriage. What would the new definition be? Would marriage be allowable for other unions previously looked down on like bestiality, *****, and polygamy?
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:38 pm
Britomartis-the-Valiant crazygirl879 I think that anyone who is against it has no valid reason. If you say it's because it's against your religion, that's what you belive, not everyone belives the same thing you do. If you say it's against God and he doesn't like it, isn't that hypoctritical of you? Because God is the one who is supposed to judge, not you. Also, if you say it's just gross, that is 100% your opinion and shouldn't even be taken into account when it comes to gay marriage. In my first couple responses, I did not even refer to my beliefs to justify my position. I do not expect other people to respect my religious beliefs on the subject. Instead, I offered an argument based on sociology. In general, homosexual relationships tend to be less monogamous and more unstable than heterosexual ones. Kids growing up in that atmosphere in the future will have trouble relating to other people that are not of the sex of their parents. To allow gay marriage would imply redefining marriage. What would the new definition be? Would marriage be allowable for other unions previously looked down on like bestiality, *****, and polygamy? I acctually don't have a problem with any of those three. Also I wasn't talking to you directly. It was just a general statement. One of my good freinds was raised by lesbians and he is the sweetest guy on earth. If you say there is something wrong with Dylon, there is something wrong with you.
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:01 pm
crazygirl879 Britomartis-the-Valiant crazygirl879 I think that anyone who is against it has no valid reason. If you say it's because it's against your religion, that's what you belive, not everyone belives the same thing you do. If you say it's against God and he doesn't like it, isn't that hypoctritical of you? Because God is the one who is supposed to judge, not you. Also, if you say it's just gross, that is 100% your opinion and shouldn't even be taken into account when it comes to gay marriage. In my first couple responses, I did not even refer to my beliefs to justify my position. I do not expect other people to respect my religious beliefs on the subject. Instead, I offered an argument based on sociology. In general, homosexual relationships tend to be less monogamous and more unstable than heterosexual ones. Kids growing up in that atmosphere in the future will have trouble relating to other people that are not of the sex of their parents. To allow gay marriage would imply redefining marriage. What would the new definition be? Would marriage be allowable for other unions previously looked down on like bestiality, *****, and polygamy? I acctually don't have a problem with any of those three. Also I wasn't talking to you directly. It was just a general statement. One of my good freinds was raised by lesbians and he is the sweetest guy on earth. If you say there is something wrong with Dylon, there is something wrong with you. I realize you didn't mean it directly at me, but as I am the only one defending the opposite position, I just had to snap at the bait. wink As for your friend, I can make no comment--I don't personally know him or the situation. I do know that if kids have a dysfunctional (one or both parents never around, or just bad family life) or perhaps a "non-traditional family", they will often seek out a surrogate parent or family. I don't know if this is true for everyone. I'd be afraid that a guy with no dad would turn into a sissy. I'd be afraid that a guy with no mom would turn into a boar. I'd be afraid that a girl with no mom would feel like she had no one to confide in and no one to understand. I'd be afraid that a girl with no dad would not be able to react or relate to guys very well. I believe that there is a purpose for everything. Life has meaning for me, and this is reflected in my beliefs. So there is a reason that kids can only come from a man-woman relationship. And actually, if natural selection is as powerful a tool as scientists believe and if homosexuality is (at least partly)genetic, homosexuality should have been selected out ages ago because they can't procreate.
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:34 pm
Britomartis-the-Valiant crazygirl879 Britomartis-the-Valiant crazygirl879 I think that anyone who is against it has no valid reason. If you say it's because it's against your religion, that's what you belive, not everyone belives the same thing you do. If you say it's against God and he doesn't like it, isn't that hypoctritical of you? Because God is the one who is supposed to judge, not you. Also, if you say it's just gross, that is 100% your opinion and shouldn't even be taken into account when it comes to gay marriage. In my first couple responses, I did not even refer to my beliefs to justify my position. I do not expect other people to respect my religious beliefs on the subject. Instead, I offered an argument based on sociology. In general, homosexual relationships tend to be less monogamous and more unstable than heterosexual ones. Kids growing up in that atmosphere in the future will have trouble relating to other people that are not of the sex of their parents. To allow gay marriage would imply redefining marriage. What would the new definition be? Would marriage be allowable for other unions previously looked down on like bestiality, *****, and polygamy? I acctually don't have a problem with any of those three. Also I wasn't talking to you directly. It was just a general statement. One of my good freinds was raised by lesbians and he is the sweetest guy on earth. If you say there is something wrong with Dylon, there is something wrong with you. I realize you didn't mean it directly at me, but as I am the only one defending the opposite position, I just had to snap at the bait. wink As for your friend, I can make no comment--I don't personally know him or the situation. I do know that if kids have a dysfunctional (one or both parents never around, or just bad family life) or perhaps a "non-traditional family", they will often seek out a surrogate parent or family. I don't know if this is true for everyone. I'd be afraid that a guy with no dad would turn into a sissy. I'd be afraid that a guy with no mom would turn into a boar. I'd be afraid that a girl with no mom would feel like she had no one to confide in and no one to understand. I'd be afraid that a girl with no dad would not be able to react or relate to guys very well. I believe that there is a purpose for everything. Life has meaning for me, and this is reflected in my beliefs. So there is a reason that kids can only come from a man-woman relationship. And actually, if natural selection is as powerful a tool as scientists believe and if homosexuality is (at least partly)genetic, homosexuality should have been selected out ages ago because they can't procreate. You make good points. You win the argument. ^.^
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