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 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:05 pm
Merely a Shade Merely the Lady The Leninator! Contra mundus The Leninator! We're putting out a newsletter from the GCP comrades, if anyone would like to contribute just check out the thread in the GCP (click my sig), that's our part to aid the cause on a larger scale, some of us are printing out copies and distributing them In Real Life and we're trying to get subscribers on Gaia. I have no idea what the NCS is doing, the website you guys made didn't make it, but trying again wouldn't hurt eh? Clearing it out is what I mean, just starting over and publicising a bit better. We've tried it twice actually. The only reason I didn't wish to revive the first one is that Spam bots viciously attacked it. I'll make another thread or something if I get around to it. Comrade! This is half the problem as I've observed, we need to work together and not seperatly, it will only make us stronger! If you have no newsletter currently just check the GCP, and you can copy and paste that thread here! Hell, if it's representation you want we can put the NCS logo on the paper but I think it's best if we work together on one newsletter, not compete with two. If you agree just pm me, because the key is solidarity comrade. Meh I could make one for us....a newsletter without the Orthodox SovietTank and Gallenger to balance him out is just not worth it. It would be entertaining, to say the least. We ought to. I do have a guild that we could work out of if you guys want to go up on it.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:08 pm
REDGallenger Having a news letter isn't a particularly bad idea - it's often hard to keep all the news straight with all the various sources available - especially one to circulate around gaia to help get people active in the organized movement for socialism. If you want to contribute just post pm me and I'll arange it, just run your article idea by me and when you finish email your article to me (I'll give you my email if you pm me) and I can handle the rest and if you just want to subscribe either post in the GCP thread (you have to be a member to post in the GCP) or pm me, or if it's ok I could post the subscription thread here....if that's cool with you guys then I'll just go on and do that.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:09 pm
By the way we desperatly need writers for the newsletter, I think there's only 2 or 3 people writing articles for the first issue so far.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:59 pm
The Leninator! By the way we desperatly need writers for the newsletter, I think there's only 2 or 3 people writing articles for the first issue so far. Need a science writer?
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:54 pm
Steven Hawkings The Leninator! By the way we desperatly need writers for the newsletter, I think there's only 2 or 3 people writing articles for the first issue so far. Need a science writer? I'll ask, the guy that's mainly in charge is Comrade James (check the GCP), I'm just helping him out. It would probably have to have something to do with socialism or communism and he'd want to know what specific thing you were thinking of writing about before greenlighting it but I dig the idea, I'll ask him.
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:22 am
Contra mundus the Tank of the Soviets T-34 If nationalism was the "death of empires" and its synthesis imperialism then what would perhaps Globalism vs Nationalism synthesis be? Doesnt matter what the westerner's do while they spread culture it is not on our hands nor in our name. It does not anger them against communist ideology it angers them about capitalism. If they wish to go reactionary nationalistic let them go into nationalistic pride isolation from the global market and see if they become self sufficent over time without aid/trade....(I have my doubts) Globalization does not create more problems unless you view more global proletarait and western influence upon the global population as a "bad thing." Marxism thrives off of westernization so wouldn't we have to be in support of westernization as a general culture for the entire globe to fullfill our overall distant ideal? If the supression is blamed upon the capitalists then let them be blamed upon but the supression that they create, creates more workers in other countries and creates less jobs so a larger unskilled workforce is unemployed. Globalism may create nationalism but it also creates more proletarait workers that are naturally conservative to industrialization. Even in India the 30% of the populace that works in the industrialized india would probably want to keep the status they are in and therefore will continue to use Western ideology and influence upon their culture. Nationalism didn't destroy empires, nationalism from other nations that fueled wars did. Regardless you did a turn in viewpoint here. Your argument here is the support of Globalization to cease Nationalism. However obviously it doesn't. We've seen the reaction to protests on May Day. No one was shouting a cease to Capitalism and to embrace Internationalism. No one mentioned unity with the workers of India. The best I heard was a cease to the actions of these companies and corporations. Now Capitalism can try to fuel itself and move around and I won't really care, because I still now it propels itself to it's own doom and demise; however supporting Capitalism to cease Nationalism isn't going to work. It's not valid and in reality we're fueling Nationalism further. If that's true we're not pushing them to Communism, but to National Socialism and Fascism. These people, if hyped up on Nationalist sentiments, aren't going to run towards Marxist ideals, they're going to run to whatever is closest to their idea and viewpoint. Since the viewpoint is Nationalism and keeping jobs it should be obvious.... Simply that's what I'm saying. Capitalism can do what it wants it will still be dismantled in the end. However supporting Capitalist actions to end an ideal isn't going to work. Like I said nationalism destroys Empires. Even outside nationalism is still nationalism. When Im talking about Nationalism destroying Empires I am looking at the Austro-Hungrian Empire and the Ottoman Empire which were easily destroyed due to nationalism even prior to WW1. My agruement is that with jobs being sent overseas we are helping social consciousness in First World Countries and creating more and more proletarait in other countries. Creating a larger base will only help a globalist revolution. Im am saying use Capitalism to industrialize because of the consequences of our own Industrialization could cause problems. With People wanting equal distribution etc industrialization would have to happen rapidly (as it does with capitalism all the time, just gets faster and faster). At this point it makes the culture go reactionary towards communism. I'd rather use force during Capitalism then during Socialist stage. Again Western Culture as the general culture (for the sake of Marxism) and regional culture later. If you wish we can also go the Eastern culture anti-humanist collectivist too and destroy human rights ^.^ either way is ok by me. How do you go about industrializing a country that hasnt industrialized fully with capitalism? Should we Use Stalinism or should we use Trotskyist methods or what?
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:24 am
Steven Hawkings REDGallenger Having a news letter isn't a particularly bad idea - it's often hard to keep all the news straight with all the various sources available - especially one to circulate around gaia to help get people active in the organized movement for socialism. It's hard to get reliable news and make non baisied news. All news is biased so it doesnt matter... anything with an opinion is biased unless its a fact.....which can be minipulated by opinions sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:23 pm
SoViEtTaNkT34 Steven Hawkings REDGallenger Having a news letter isn't a particularly bad idea - it's often hard to keep all the news straight with all the various sources available - especially one to circulate around gaia to help get people active in the organized movement for socialism. It's hard to get reliable news and make non baisied news. All news is biased so it doesnt matter... anything with an opinion is biased unless its a fact.....which can be minipulated by opinions sweatdrop Yes, but a person should report the news not say his mind, the facts should be facts only, they should be the real thing. Also why the worry?
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:04 pm
Steven Hawkings SoViEtTaNkT34 Steven Hawkings REDGallenger Having a news letter isn't a particularly bad idea - it's often hard to keep all the news straight with all the various sources available - especially one to circulate around gaia to help get people active in the organized movement for socialism. It's hard to get reliable news and make non baisied news. All news is biased so it doesnt matter... anything with an opinion is biased unless its a fact.....which can be minipulated by opinions sweatdrop Yes, but a person should report the news not say his mind, the facts should be facts only, they should be the real thing. Also why the worry? I think that the news can be biased to prove a point, for instance- the article that I wrote is heavily opinionated and biased, it's about how the US is declining into a fascist state. I use facts to back up my argument, news can be biased as long as it's read that way, if biased news is read as fact then it screws it up.
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:48 pm
The Leninator! Steven Hawkings SoViEtTaNkT34 Steven Hawkings REDGallenger Having a news letter isn't a particularly bad idea - it's often hard to keep all the news straight with all the various sources available - especially one to circulate around gaia to help get people active in the organized movement for socialism. It's hard to get reliable news and make non baisied news. All news is biased so it doesnt matter... anything with an opinion is biased unless its a fact.....which can be minipulated by opinions sweatdrop Yes, but a person should report the news not say his mind, the facts should be facts only, they should be the real thing. Also why the worry? I think that the news can be biased to prove a point, for instance- the article that I wrote is heavily opinionated and biased, it's about how the US is declining into a fascist state. I use facts to back up my argument, news can be biased as long as it's read that way, if biased news is read as fact then it screws it up. Its probably just like an RCP newspaper which uses the term "fascist" in almost every sentence.......
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:11 pm
The Leninator! Steven Hawkings SoViEtTaNkT34 Steven Hawkings REDGallenger Having a news letter isn't a particularly bad idea - it's often hard to keep all the news straight with all the various sources available - especially one to circulate around gaia to help get people active in the organized movement for socialism. It's hard to get reliable news and make non baisied news. All news is biased so it doesnt matter... anything with an opinion is biased unless its a fact.....which can be minipulated by opinions sweatdrop Yes, but a person should report the news not say his mind, the facts should be facts only, they should be the real thing. Also why the worry? I think that the news can be biased to prove a point, for instance- the article that I wrote is heavily opinionated and biased, it's about how the US is declining into a fascist state. I use facts to back up my argument, news can be biased as long as it's read that way, if biased news is read as fact then it screws it up. Humm, I did some news at my school paper for a year, and I tried y best not to impose my own view on any reader, or lower my voice. Why it's ok to give a opinion, I believe we should allow the reader to make their minds. at times we should break away from that though. While I don't bash others for there writing style for my own, I just like to keep many options open to allow the reader to think for themselves. To me it can have a deeper impact.
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:11 am
The RCP also has this thing about jacking off to Bob akkivakian or whatever his name is.
I do enjoyed the peoples weekly world - www.pww.org I wish I could get the CPC (canadian CP) 's theoretical journal I'm fairly impressed. Political affairs is nice but I don't have *that* much money.
It's silly to say we ought not to have a biased news paper - the whole point would be to spread class consciousness, otherwise we'd be waisting our time.
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:06 pm
REDGallenger The RCP also has this thing about jacking off to Bob akkivakian or whatever his name is. I do enjoyed the peoples weekly world - www.pww.org I wish I could get the CPC (canadian CP) 's theoretical journal I'm fairly impressed. Political affairs is nice but I don't have *that* much money. It's silly to say we ought not to have a biased news paper - the whole point would be to spread class consciousness, otherwise we'd be waisting our time. I just dont care for reading something that only contains the words imperialism/christian fascist in every single line........@_@
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:10 pm
SoViEtTaNkT34 REDGallenger The RCP also has this thing about jacking off to Bob akkivakian or whatever his name is. I do enjoyed the peoples weekly world - www.pww.org I wish I could get the CPC (canadian CP) 's theoretical journal I'm fairly impressed. Political affairs is nice but I don't have *that* much money. It's silly to say we ought not to have a biased news paper - the whole point would be to spread class consciousness, otherwise we'd be waisting our time. I just dont care for reading something that only contains the words imperialism/christian fascist in every single line........@_@ Well you can fix that. Congradulations you've been appointed Head Editor of the NCS newspaper! You have two weeks to get a paper together.
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:08 pm
That's just crappy writing not having a bias there comrade biggrin
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