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 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:36 am
OMG THEY ARE SO CUTE TOGETHER
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:01 am
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:23 am
-[Neji][Hina]- Reyairia rofl NaruHina is so one-sided it hurts? Proof plz. For all we know, Naruto could have requited feelings for Hinata, as nowhere it says that he doesn't. P: As for NaruHina, I really don't think Hinata's going to get rejected for Sakura when she's been there for Naruto since the beginning of the manga when Sakura wasn't. That would just be cruel and have no point, especially when GaaSaku would have the same "proof" for Sakura's character development as NaruSaku. P: I made a little rant here on people hating Naruhina, putting it next to Sasusaku, and with links proving how deep the pairing is. Kishimoto really put a lot of thought into the pairing, and I don't think he's going to throw it away anytime soon. Hell, you can tell they're made for eachother just by looking at their timeskip outfits. Sun/Moon parallels ftw. Just like Shakespeare. xd I'm such a poetry nerd sometimes. P: At first I was worried I'd have to work hard on this response. While it's messy, it's becoming very easy to contradict NaruHina with fact. <3
First of all, Naruto and Hinata have had two hours of interraction. No, it's less. The fillers...Oh, to hell with those damned fillers! Swelling up the NaruHina fandom like a balloon.
...EXAMPLE:
- up till Chuunin exams, Naruto called Hinata a dark weirdo girl who can't look him in the eyes. In short, she most probably never talked to him.
- they talked Once between the prelims and the match against Neji, and that's it.
- then Naruto went to train with Jiraiya.
- then there was the rescue arc.
- between the end of the rescue arc and Naruto leaving, Hinata did not speak to Naruto Once: when she went to see him at the hospital, she fainted and had since not gathered the courage to speak to him again.
- weirdly enough, she hasn't spoken to him post-timeskip either...
Hinata had about as much impact on Naruto's life as Lee. Just because she's a GIRL makes people pair her up with him. :/ Right? RIGHT. This pairing irks me in canon, for lack of Hinata in the manga. Her panel time is only a little more than Iruka. Tsk, tsk.
And what? Hinata was THERE FOR NARUTO!? Really? Can you actually SAY that? I'm sorry, but she just watched him. She did not actually try and get him to feel better about himself. Because she does not know his pain. She knew only one of his pains: The pain of not being acklowledged.
As far as the manga has stretched, he no longer feels that pain. He is acklowledged and admired by many.
AHEM...Note the many characters that appear
Hinata is only one person in that crowd who acklowledged him. She does not stand out.
Hinata does not understand his pain. The pain of being a jinchuuriki, of losing Sasuke, she does not know how that feels. She doesn't KNOW anything about the kyuubi, funnily enough, and she most likely has no idea how much it hurts Naruto to lose his BROTHER.
Is this how it's gonna end up? Really? They're going to need a lot more that THIS if Naruto and Hinata are going to end up together.
Plus, why didn't Kishimoto place Hinata to help Naruto, instead of creating two brand new characters to help him deal with his problems? Yamato and Sai, when it EASILY could have been Hinata.
And just some more things...
Because Hinata seems to have a crush on Naruto doesn't mean they'll end up.
By putting Hinata with Naruto, you are taking the easy way to fix her problems. Her marrying the Hokage, and him changing the Hyuuga clan, when it should just be him helping her, and Hinata doing it on her own.
It's humiliating. It's making Hinata so much less than she is.
Opposites attract? Why do people compare a law of PHYSICS, to a law of LOVE? There is no law of love. ...Really. But ya know, I don't usually see the quiet boy with the loud girl, or vice versa. Or at least, I don't see it working out.
And [Shimuzu-chan]...We share essay knowledge.XD
Sakura vs. Hinata (Helping Naruto vs. His Current Pains!) Someone didn't read my rant. =/ Interaction doesn't matter as so much as what happens during it. This is a shonen manga and therefore romantic interaction is kept to a minimum, hell, Kishimoto has always mentioned that he has a trouble with romance. As for the fillers, I don't think they'd put all those hints for no reason or knowing that another pairing could happen. That'd be unprofessional. Even if you were to argue that Kishimoto has no control over them whatsoever, he mentions that he's inspired from them and maybe its because I know people who write, but if animators were screwing around with my manga canon I really wouldn't like it. In case you haven't noticed, he also said he liked people like her, and she's changing. As for the fight against Neji don't just throw that away, that interaction was incredibly emphatic, and if you remember that scene where Naruto wiped her blood with his fingers, swore on defeating Neji and actually do some research you'll notice that a blood connection isn't something to shake a stick at in Japan. "Oh yeah, just the Neji fight and that's it rolleyes ." I'm sorry, hon, but I'm not going to take you seriously there, in case you haven't noticed, ALL the chuunin preliminary and finals in respect to Naruto - the Kiba-Naruto match, the Hinata-Neji match and the Neji-Naruto match - was all about the connection between Naruto and the Hyuugas. We're talking about quite a few manga volumes here. The fact that she's the character most put emphasis on in Team Eight despite her being a girl and this being a shonen manga is worthy of notice too. Also, that hospital scene didn't happen in the manga. In reality, Hinata has only fainted in front of Naruto once, and that was during the post-timeskip scene. As for the rest of the interaction post-timeskip, read what I said in my last paragraph: this is a shonen manga, romantic interaction is kept to a MINIMUM. Besides, we've seen team sand, Gai, and Asuma all have their share of the spotlight lately so I'm not a moron for thinking team Kurenai may have an appearance soon. As for Lee, that's not true. Did Naruto try to avenge Lee because of what Gaara did to him? No. Did he try to avenge Hinata because of what Neji did to her? Yes. As for not making an impact on Naruto's life; http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g13/tanuki-kage/The rant/0000hfh6.jpg Again, not true. Naruto was all down in the dumps and thinking that he'd never defeat Neji until Hinata cheered him up. Naruto probably wouldn't have defeated Neji if Hinata wouldn't have done that to him. Wait! That sounds farmiliar! Isn't Naruto the one that's supposed to be cheering people up? Well, this is one of the very few instances where it was the other way around, someone cheered Naruto up and changed the direction where he was going. She may have only watched him, but she actually cared about him when everybody else shunned him. Naruto wanted acknowledgement and Hinata was one of the first to give it to him. I have seen that manga chapter btw, and I think that's mostly because Naruto had no idea of Hinata being there for him until the chuunin exams. Nobody knows what the pain of being a jinchuuriki is except the jinchuuriki. Unless you're arguing GaaraNaruto, NarutoYugito or a NarutoxFancharacter I fail to see this in retrospect. Neither GaaraNaruto or NarutoYugito will happen because the main character of a shonen manga will not become gay and Yugito is dead. Either way, if Naruto can love Iruka as a father even if Iruka is not a jinchuuriki and have a crush on Sakura despite her not being a jinchuuriki either I don't see how he couldn't fall in love with someone that's not a jinchuuriki. As for Hinata, you gravely understimate her past, but you're not to blame since, again, she's a bit of a minor character. Hinata probably knows the pain of loneliness as well as Naruto and Gaara. Judging by the fact that her mother didn't appear at the finals of the chuunin exam I can safely assume she's dead. Judging by the fact that she as considered weak all the time she was probably shunned by the clan and constantly received attention, but negative attention - her dad technically abandoned her and said he didn't care if Hinata died! Judging by the fact that she's the oldest daughter of the main branch and from a noble high-class family she most likely wasn't allowed outside a lot and interact with other children (look at Hinata's kidnapping). I can make the intelligent guess that she probably had no council in her parents and no friends until she met team eight and was forced to interact with them and that's little to no different than what happened to Naruto and Gaara. I think that's the most tragic past you can get without being a jinchuuriki and look at what happened to the female jinchuuriki; she got killed off. No, Hinata does not know the pain of losing a brother, or Sasuke, but she does know what it feels like to have a relative, a cousin, hate her for something that wasn't her fault, plus there's something similar as seeing that Neji did not hate Hinata at the beginning (young Neji: "She's cute."). You could say that Neji developing a strong hatred towards the main branch and consequently Hinata when his father died as a form of abandonment. If you think about it in detail you'll notice its pretty obviously paralleled. Yamato is supposed to be older to draw the connection to Orochimaru and to avoid a fourth member, as for Sai they needed a male replacement for their team. Hinata is neither a guy, and she already has her own team. It'd make no sense for the manga to go through all the trouble to bend the team rules just for a romantic situation. If I were the type to say that just because a girl has a crush on a guy means they're going to end up together I'd like SasuSaku and if you knew me you would know that I absolutely despise SasuSaku to probably unhealthy lengths! Just because SasuSakuers often like NaruHina doesn't mean its the same thing, assuming so would be an insult to me as a NaruHina-antiSasuSaku fan. I like NaruHina because its deep contrary to SasuSaku. I like NaruHina because Hinata cared about Naruto when everybody - except for Iruka - underestimated and shunned him, I like NaruHina because Naruto could become Hokage and get together with any girl he wanted but instead go for the "shy, dark weirdo" (a little something I like to call maturity), I like NaruHina because Hinata had a shitty childhood but managed to get past that because of Naruto, I like NaruHina because Hinata makes Naruto stronger too, we're talking about practically Team Kurenai in the manga (I don't think Kiba or Shino not getting any specific goals when even Tenten has one a coincidence), I could go on and on. NaruSaku has its advantages too, but I don't see it near as deep as NaruHina, and any deepness NaruSaku has can be found in GaaSaku as well, and probably pulled off better. (And I don't like GaaSaku just because its cute either) As for NaruHina being the "easy way out", I recommend you don't believe Mizura/Heronite, because her "essays" are really, s**t, flawed, and you can obviously tell she's ridiculously paranoid. =/ I think this link here will explain all of my points better than I ever could. Its a direct counter-essay to Heronite's and your points. =/
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:14 pm
I'm done with this.
I'm not going to change your mind.
You're not going to change my mind.
That's that.
I know that SasuSaku and NaruHina are total opposites.
Yeah, I'm a SasuSaku fan, because I personally think SasuSaku is deep. I think NaruHina is the exact opposite. Why would Kishi point towards anything besides NaruHina when he could have done so many other things? Even if he IS bad with romance, he DID have Sakura fall in love with Sasuke. Even if you don't think Sakura ACTUALLY loved Sasuke, I do. Whatever. We disagree. It happens.
I don't think Hinata 'loves' Naruto. :/ Maybe she does. Maybe she doesn't. That's not for the fandom to decide. NaruHina and SasuSaku are completely different pairings. Sakura loves/loved Sasuke. And Naruto never stated he even liked HINATA as an INDIVIDUAL.
'I like people like you' is not stating that he likes her. There's a difference. He likes Sakura. That's been stated. That's obvious.
If he can give up on everything he's done for Sakura, and everything she did for her, then that's s**t. Then NaruHina, that's s**t
Unless Kishimoto suddenly makes romance the main plot, and makes Hinata a more noticeable character, and makes NaruHina more developed...That's s**t.
Heronite's opinions are not s**t. They are OPINIONS. They are ASSUMPTIONS.
Of COURSE you disagree! You're ANTI-NaruSaku, and PRO-NaruHina!
OF COURSE I agree! I'm the exact opposite!
It happens. ^^ You believe what you believe. I believe what I believe.
Neither of us are right, because nothing is canon.
NaruSaku is not canon. NaruHina is not canon. GaaSaku is not canon. The only canon pairing is Asuma/Kurenai. ShikaTema is probably the second closest thing to canon.
And that's that. Whatever happens, HAPPENS.
If it ends up NaruHina...I'll get over it. I'll be upset. I won't like it. But I'll eventually get over it.
If it doesn't end up my favorite pairings...Oh well.
I'll get over it.
Because it's a manga.
PS: I didn't mean to rant...XD Teehee, I did anyways. <3333
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:23 pm
Quote: I recommend you don't believe Mizura/Heronite, because her "essays" are really, s**t, flawed, and you can obviously tell she's ridiculously paranoid. =/
If her essays are s**t, then all SasuSaku, Naruhina, GaaSaku, ANY PARING essays are s**t. :/
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:00 am
very sexy and cute couple
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:23 am
They are so for each other.
I am in a relationship right now and it so totally works out.
I was the shy, quiet girl hiding in the corner.
I would know.
If you admire someone, you keep them in your mind.
That admiration can turn into love.
You can't live without thinking about them every second of your life.
I eventually had enough courage to talk him.
When I did, I found out things that I wouldn't have known if I just sat there.
We started talking more and more often.
Then we got separated.
We were sent to different schools.
I only got to see him on holidays.
This upset me, but I didn't give up.
I kept going.
I kept believeing in him.
Suddenly, 2 years later, we started going out.
We still are.
This pairing is kinda like my love life right now.
I totally support NaruHina!
I don't think Sakura is that mean person who steals people you love.
That's not her image.
That's not her intention.
I'm not saying that Sakura likes Naruto.
I'm saying that Sakura should stay with Sasuke.
It helps her everyday.
It's the reason she wakes up in the moring,
the reason she goes to bed,
the reason she continues to survive.
Although, I have to say...
Sasuke's 2.5 years later picture is a bit gay.
NO OFFENSE!
So there is hope for NaruHina!
There is!
I am pro-NaruHina.
I'm also pro- NejiTen and ShikaTema.
I am anti- SasuSaku (I'm sorry, I just don't seem to like it), ShikaIno (Lazy-bones and frigid b***h [again, i don't seem to like Ino either] don't look like they're gonna get together.), and anything with Gaara or Shino (I love them both... plus they don't seem like the going out type.)
If they don't get together,
I'll get over it... but I'll want a good reason why they discontinued it.
I'm not the ranting type but I do agree with Reyairia.
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:59 am
[Shimizu-chan] Quote: I recommend you don't believe Mizura/Heronite, because her "essays" are really, s**t, flawed, and you can obviously tell she's ridiculously paranoid. =/
If her essays are s**t, then all SasuSaku, Naruhina, GaaSaku, ANY PARING essays are s**t. :/They are, because she argues against what the databook said, and the publishers wrote that book, its canon law. =/
Not too mention they're full of flaws and double standards.
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:02 am
Bow_Meow_girl They are so for each other.
I am in a relationship right now and it so totally works out.
I was the shy, quiet girl hiding in the corner.
I would know.
If you admire someone, you keep them in your mind.
That admiration can turn into love.
You can't live without thinking about them every second of your life.
I eventually had enough courage to talk him.
When I did, I found out things that I wouldn't have known if I just sat there.
We started talking more and more often.
Then we got separated.
We were sent to different schools.
I only got to see him on holidays.
This upset me, but I didn't give up.
I kept going.
I kept believeing in him.
Suddenly, 2 years later, we started going out.
We still are.
This pairing is kinda like my love life right now.
I totally support NaruHina!
I don't think Sakura is that mean person who steals people you love.
That's not her image.
That's not her intention.
I'm not saying that Sakura likes Naruto.
I'm saying that Sakura should stay with Sasuke.
It helps her everyday.
It's the reason she wakes up in the moring,
the reason she goes to bed,
the reason she continues to survive.
Although, I have to say...
Sasuke's 2.5 years later picture is a bit gay.
NO OFFENSE!
So there is hope for NaruHina!
There is!
I am pro-NaruHina.
I'm also pro- NejiTen and ShikaTema.
I am anti- SasuSaku (I'm sorry, I just don't seem to like it), ShikaIno (Lazy-bones and frigid b***h [again, i don't seem to like Ino either] don't look like they're gonna get together.), and anything with Gaara or Shino (I love them both... plus they don't seem like the going out type.)
If they don't get together,
I'll get over it... but I'll want a good reason why they discontinued it.
I'm not the ranting type but I do agree with Reyairia. Hooray for anti-Sasusaku/Pro-naruhinaers!
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:05 pm
Reyairia [Shimizu-chan] Quote: I recommend you don't believe Mizura/Heronite, because her "essays" are really, s**t, flawed, and you can obviously tell she's ridiculously paranoid. =/
If her essays are s**t, then all SasuSaku, Naruhina, GaaSaku, ANY PARING essays are s**t. :/They are, because she argues against what the databook said, and the publishers wrote that book, its canon law. =/
Not too mention they're full of flaws and double standards.
And besides, I don't see her arguing the data book in her NarutoxSakura essay.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:16 pm
Reyairia [Shimizu-chan] Quote: I recommend you don't believe Mizura/Heronite, because her "essays" are really, s**t, flawed, and you can obviously tell she's ridiculously paranoid. =/
If her essays are s**t, then all SasuSaku, Naruhina, GaaSaku, ANY PARING essays are s**t. :/They are, because she argues against what the databook said, and the publishers wrote that book, its canon law. =/
Not too mention they're full of flaws and double standards.
Ya know what? Then Believe is s**t. And you can't say it's not, or that it's the greatest essay in the world, because that's MY OPINION.
The data books are also s**t. It's just a way of stretching the truth and getting people to think about things that will never happen.
You sound like a Sakura basher. :/ OOH the essay was flawed!
That's how people make Sakura look bad. Because she has flaws. I have flaws. No doubt you have flaws.
So what's so bad about a freaking essay having flaws? XD At least it doesn't make the pairing seem soooo likely because of a chapter cover. >> (Even though there is a cover that TOTALLY yells 'NARUSAKU') And why exactly was the episodes' name 'In Front of the Person I Admire' and not 'In Front of the Person I LOVE' if Hinata's so in love with him? [/rhetoricalquestion]
*votes for V.C. Anders* Similars attract, FTW!
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:48 pm
-[Neji][Hina]- Reyairia [Shimizu-chan] Quote: I recommend you don't believe Mizura/Heronite, because her "essays" are really, s**t, flawed, and you can obviously tell she's ridiculously paranoid. =/
If her essays are s**t, then all SasuSaku, Naruhina, GaaSaku, ANY PARING essays are s**t. :/They are, because she argues against what the databook said, and the publishers wrote that book, its canon law. =/
Not too mention they're full of flaws and double standards.
Ya know what? Then Believe is s**t. And you can't say it's not, or that it's the greatest essay in the world, because that's MY OPINION.
The data books are also s**t. It's just a way of stretching the truth and getting people to think about things that will never happen.
You sound like a Sakura basher. :/ OOH the essay was flawed!
That's how people make Sakura look bad. Because she has flaws. I have flaws. No doubt you have flaws.
So what's so bad about a freaking essay having flaws? XD At least it doesn't make the pairing seem soooo likely because of a chapter cover. >> (Even though there is a cover that TOTALLY yells 'NARUSAKU') And why exactly was the episodes' name 'In Front of the Person I Admire' and not 'In Front of the Person I LOVE' if Hinata's so in love with him? [/rhetoricalquestion]
*votes for V.C. Anders* Similars attract, FTW!
And also...
your siggy is teh awesomeness. =3
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:55 am
-[Neji][Hina]- Reyairia [Shimizu-chan] Quote: I recommend you don't believe Mizura/Heronite, because her "essays" are really, s**t, flawed, and you can obviously tell she's ridiculously paranoid. =/
If her essays are s**t, then all SasuSaku, Naruhina, GaaSaku, ANY PARING essays are s**t. :/They are, because she argues against what the databook said, and the publishers wrote that book, its canon law. =/
Not too mention they're full of flaws and double standards.
Ya know what? Then Believe is s**t. And you can't say it's not, or that it's the greatest essay in the world, because that's MY OPINION.
The data books are also s**t. It's just a way of stretching the truth and getting people to think about things that will never happen.
You sound like a Sakura basher. :/ OOH the essay was flawed!
That's how people make Sakura look bad. Because she has flaws. I have flaws. No doubt you have flaws.
So what's so bad about a freaking essay having flaws? XD At least it doesn't make the pairing seem soooo likely because of a chapter cover. >> (Even though there is a cover that TOTALLY yells 'NARUSAKU') And why exactly was the episodes' name 'In Front of the Person I Admire' and not 'In Front of the Person I LOVE' if Hinata's so in love with him? [/rhetoricalquestion]
*votes for V.C. Anders* Similars attract, FTW! Believe doesn't have double standards, and Believe doesn't use arguements that can be used against the pairing argued for either.
There are such things as good essays and bad essays, a good essay will make me understand where the person is coming from and may make me rething my opinions a little, a bad essay will make me go wtf and Heronite's essay did the latter, the whole thing practically being a bunch of fanmade assumptions.
Databook s**t? Excuse me? The publishers wrote the databook, by saying the databook is s**t you're pretty much saying canon is s**t.
And I'm a big Sakura fan, which is why I want her to get away from BOTH Sasuke and Naruto and why I'm not keen on pairing her up with the closest male humanoid her age.
As of why, this is a SHONEN manga, obviously romance is to be avoided as much as possible because PRETEEN boys, whom this manga is aimed at, still think girls and romance is "icky."
As for similars attract... -looks at her bookshelf full of manga, in which most with a single exception feature opposites-attract couples- ... Right.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:37 pm
Reyairia -[Neji][Hina]- Reyairia [Shimizu-chan] Quote: I recommend you don't believe Mizura/Heronite, because her "essays" are really, s**t, flawed, and you can obviously tell she's ridiculously paranoid. =/
If her essays are s**t, then all SasuSaku, Naruhina, GaaSaku, ANY PARING essays are s**t. :/They are, because she argues against what the databook said, and the publishers wrote that book, its canon law. =/
Not too mention they're full of flaws and double standards.
Ya know what? Then Believe is s**t. And you can't say it's not, or that it's the greatest essay in the world, because that's MY OPINION.
The data books are also s**t. It's just a way of stretching the truth and getting people to think about things that will never happen.
You sound like a Sakura basher. :/ OOH the essay was flawed!
That's how people make Sakura look bad. Because she has flaws. I have flaws. No doubt you have flaws.
So what's so bad about a freaking essay having flaws? XD At least it doesn't make the pairing seem soooo likely because of a chapter cover. >> (Even though there is a cover that TOTALLY yells 'NARUSAKU') And why exactly was the episodes' name 'In Front of the Person I Admire' and not 'In Front of the Person I LOVE' if Hinata's so in love with him? [/rhetoricalquestion]
*votes for V.C. Anders* Similars attract, FTW! Believe doesn't have double standards, and Believe doesn't use arguements that can be used against the pairing argued for either.
There are such things as good essays and bad essays, a good essay will make me understand where the person is coming from and may make me rething my opinions a little, a bad essay will make me go wtf and Heronite's essay did the latter, the whole thing practically being a bunch of fanmade assumptions.
Databook s**t? Excuse me? The publishers wrote the databook, by saying the databook is s**t you're pretty much saying canon is s**t.
And I'm a big Sakura fan, which is why I want her to get away from BOTH Sasuke and Naruto and why I'm not keen on pairing her up with the closest male humanoid her age.
As of why, this is a SHONEN manga, obviously romance is to be avoided as much as possible because PRETEEN boys, whom this manga is aimed at, still think girls and romance is "icky."
As for similars attract... -looks at her bookshelf full of manga, in which most with a single exception feature opposites-attract couples- ... Right.
It made you go WTF. ^^ Meaning it's s**t in your opinion. It made me go: Yep. I get where you're coming from. Because I understand NaruSaku. That's just me. And you. EXACTLY!
Opinion. Opinion. No response.
WAIT STOP! gonk
Why does NaruHina always make me think: SHOUJO!
Sure, it'd seem 'original' because it's a shounen manga, so a shoujo pairing would be perfect. Nah...NAH. I'm sorry, I do not see it. I do not see Naruto suddenly looking past what's always been there, and what he's always protected, to see someone else, who is completely different.
You like opposites attract. I don't. :/ It's a freaking opinion, again. In one of my favorite series, the characters who fall in love have the same hobbies, likes, etc.. A ballerina falls for another dancer. (And her brother...And a doctor...But they're all kind people, like she is! gonk )
I don't even understand how yin and yang works with NaruHina. >> Because it most certainly doesn't.
Part of Hinata is her being yang. She is the light. She is the kindness. And people are not born without one or the other. They just have to find it within themselves. (In other words, Hinata was born with yin already inside of her...She just has to find it)
Must...stop...ranting. XD [/endrant]
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:16 pm
I love this couple. Thay'd be cute together.
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