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...Yeah but I thought the Sumerian civilization was before the Mesopotamian. Also I thought Meso was on like a pennisula or something near the Eu...Euphrey...That river is ancient times that began with an "E" and ended with what sounded like "Es" Kind of like the end of Haiti.

How does that answer if Aztec or Mayan is older? That aside did we decide on what way we'd be doing it? Pms and word, or 1x1 forum?

Exactly...though some of the younger ones might care. Not sure about the sole middle guy. He could probably play favourites.

Yeah that river, wasn't Mesopotamia's center near that river or whatever it is?

...Wait I forgot about Incan.

-waves hands about- No no no! I got that figured out already and the person that's in the council and covenant is one of the older members. I meant age wise. You have three young member, three old member...than the one that's in the middle. Silly.

I see well maybe Sumeria rose up and started a civ in ancient times...something happened, then Mesopotamia came out of it? Could work, I guess though prove me wrong XP

AHAHAHAHAHA Divines no! If only the oldest were on the council, it'd be mired in traditionalist bullshit and other hooey that'd bring teh races demise to a slow painful end. No it's who's likely the most suited, and has proven themselves. Sure they might all seem old when compared next to each other, but...I kind of want to say it varies between race. Like the gnome member might be in his midlife, same with Aysel...-snaps fingers- That could be her problem. She's having a mid/three-quarter millennium crisis.

You know how much I'd love to discuss stuff... but right now I have to get ready for work. sweatdrop I'll be back in a few hours, or whenever I finish.

Phew. How do they prove themselves? Does species play a factor? Democracy sucks and having the other council members vote would lead way to corruption faster than I can think of a metaphor for.

Coolio. Have fun posting. There's really no rush. I still have to fnish my last post.

-Slams fists down on table- ******** a duck!! ...So apparently Betelgeuse is one...of the younger Vampires. Not what I was expecting.

...Anway since I figured out the court/covenant's ages I figured I'd write it down. Well the main seven members...not the stenographer or the barista? Using the term court for vampires makes me think of literal court.

Eldest: Mesopotamian; 5919
Egypt; 5171
China; 4213
Middle: Mayan; 2817
Betelgeuse/Nasir: Byzantine; 1558
Ottoman; 812
Youngest: Aztec; 684

You were right...Sumeria is a section/province within Mesopotamia.

-giggles- Honey the four oldest are the closest things to hermits the Covenant has or will. Sure Catriona and or Vivian/Victor could be I guess. They could probably be stenographer or Barista if I can't think of anything else.

Pre-dracula what? Oh the court thing? Eh I just don't like that term, a Covenant sounds neater and sort of hints at what the organization actually is.

Oddly enough that was very easy to find. Haven't figured out a name. I'm thinking On Xia or Tao Xia or possibly and perhaps redundantly Zhi Xia for the chinaman.

I guess we could and what do you mean by have? Like use him? I guess it'd be okay. I still need a picture and a decision on whether his name should be Aziz or Zarek. I was leaning toward Zarek since Persians could probably be traced back to Mesopotamia...and that he probably forgot his original name. So he adopted a Persian one.

You do understand that he'd be the most monstrous one. I'm not even sure how to imagine him. I kind of want to say he'd be like that Vampire elder in Blade 2 but...much less human. Possibly something like this Unless you can find something better.

Oh I had an idea while looking for picture. What if, stay with me here...What if over time, you following me...over time, Vampirism, Ra are you listening?...affected everyone differently!

Bodyguard or whatever you suggested in addition to what became the stenographer. Sure we can use Court...I just have to get used to the word is all. I could see a newling(?) who's just been turned asking about why it's called a court and not something cooler, then the older vampires (that have been around for more than a century) get all disgusted/pissed by the newling's idiocy.

...Eh I was thinking sort of the more modern things. Like enchanced strength, enchanced/peaked speed, aversion to light depending on how it affects you. All from slight itch/feel slightly hotter than those around you...to bursting into flames. Crucifixes and the church thing are just myths since they've been around before Christ. Most of the bottom half is just superstition since they've had to survive on whatever they could get for centuries at a time. Not sure about the process of being changed. I wanna say bitten, but I also wanna say that there's a random chance that it'll happen if they survive.

Tao Xia it is.

...No I haven't. Betel and Aysel are the only two ones I feel comfortable with. The gnome possibly but he'd be more of a joke. And this is the Vampire court, not the Midnight Council. Betel's the only vampire I'll be indirectly using in my part. The age and race/lineage thing was only so that they could be called Elders. I kind of left it open on there gender and name...well cept Betel and Xia. Though if I could add one more thing it'd be making the egyptian a female vampire.

Niether does beauty. By monstrous I should've said that his humanity has left him as he's pretty much emotionally dead...or just really distant/apathetic towards others. Though I thought it'd....just be sort of symbolic if he didn't look human since let's say that his vampiric difference was that. Then again, something that appears human could probably perturb more people than something that doesn't.

Oh goody though it doesn't become apparent until...like after their first millennium. Meaning the Ottoman and Aztec elders are still waiting on their manifestation. I kind of figured out Betel's...possibly not sure.