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I dont think that your government staged the actual attack, but I wasnt suprised it happened. They were pushing people so far to the edge it was inervitable. They had to have known that.

I highly suggest you Google something called 'PNAC'. This document was written in 1998, and outlines what needs to be done to maintain american supremacy in the world. One of it's objectives is to start a war in the middle east, to obtain control of the oil fields.

And, i normally would agree with you. However, there is just enough that the government hasn't answered, or has not said, or done, or has just ignored, to dismiss this claim. An example is the metal from the Two Towers. The government pulled it all out imeaditly, rather then let scientists examine it, to discover what happened. They also pulled the bomb sniffing dogs out of the towers a couple of weeks before the attacks.
Am i suggesting that BOMBS took out the towers? When you add this information to the facts that controled demolition experts say it looked like it was a controled demo, and that the metal examination could have yealded that it was a blast that took out the support members, YES, I am saying it is a possibility.
Also, the scrambling of aircraft took place 30 minutes after the first plane HIT THE TOWERS! FAA regulation says that interceptors must be flying over the capitol within 2 minutes of any aircraft being hijacked ANYWHERE in the U.S. The order came from the pentagon to scramble jets from an Air Force Base 30 minutes away from the capitol. This was in direct violation of the FAA regulations. Also, there is an Air Force Base that can have jet flying over the capital in 2 minutes. and yet, the order was sent late, to a base that was too far away, and it was in violation of FAA regulations.
The final point (for now, at least) is the manuver required to hit the pentagon that the "terrorist" used. I put terrorist in quotes not because i believe they did a good thing, but because of this. The manuver that they needed to do to hit the part of the Pentagon that was hit required a 80000 foot descent in 2 minutes, a manuver that fighter pilots are hesitent to do in an F-16, much less a comercial transport. Also, we STILL don't have the footage of the plane hitting the pentagon, and the damage patterns matched that of a Bunker-Buster missle. Also, that part had just been renovated, and was reletivly empty. They could have just done a nose dive, and killed MANY more people

I never researched the subject, so I'll do the logical thing. (Assume it was the Government, because humans aren't very nice.)

My thoughts on 9/11

The information pressented by the government was imediate and "without question." What's more is it just doesn't necesarilly seem true. Even if the government DIDN'T doing it there is a whole bunch of stuff they just don't want to tell, and that makes it suspicious.

People often say that the government wouldn't be so stupid because if peopel found out it'd be AN UPRISING or whatever.
Let's just imagine it WAS set up by the government. What's happening now is exactly what would happen. The Government would deny, deny deny. A lot of people would continue eating it up and there would be these same debates. If the government did due it, it would take SUBSTANCIAL evidence for the government to admit it. Have we even acknowledged the Armenian genocides yet?

Another point about conspiracy is that you must ALWAYS look at who gains. When you make some theory, you have to show how a certain group clearly gains. We can easily see how gov. power ramped up right after the attacks. We were put into a war under shadey inteligence that previous administrations acknowledged would be too risky. Haliburton which is connected dirrectly to the VP easilly benefited from now having ties to oen of the worlds largest oil producing nations.

If the terrorist group Al Qaida (Sp?) taliban and whatever did it...one must look at THEIR gains as well. How much are THEY gaining by knocking down our buildings? It may be easy to note that their gains are far mroe abstract than the possible gains of the current administration.


I wont say with absolute certainty who DID do it, but I can EASILY see how it would have been the us doing it to ourselves.

(I apologize for length.)

Occam's Razor states: "All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one.”

Let us apply it to the differing stories explaining the September 11th attacks.

The “official story” as some of you have called, it, is that members of Al Qaeda hijacked and crashed four airplanes.

The conspiracy theorists claim that in fact the United States Government staged the attacks, using explosives in the Two Towers, a missile to hit the Pentagon and so on.

So, what is the simplest solution? We must dig deeper to figure out which explanation is the simpler one.

The official story is supplemented by the following facts: at the begging of the current Presidential administration, George W. Bush and his advisors appointed Regan-era experts to important positions in the FBI, CIA, and other intelligence agencies. These advisors are/were stuck in a “Cold-War frame of mind” if you will. They are/were worried about more traditional threats, not terrorism.

Also, these same advisors probably added some politics into how they did their jobs: they ignored the warning of Clinton-era intelligence leaders (warnings about Al Qaeda) because, well, the Clinton-era experts worked for a Democrat.

And, if you want to assume the current administration has few scruples, you may believe what I do: the Bush Administration purposely ignored the Al Qaeda threat, basically allowing the terrorist attacks of September 11th to happen.

Now, let us consider the “9/11 conspiracy” hypothesis: the airplanes that hit the Twin Towers were remote-controlled cargo planes, the Pentagon was hit by a Cruise Missile, and the Twin Towers were packed with explosives so that they would collapse.

Now, this line of reasoning requires hundreds, indeed thousands, of US government employees to be in on this conspiracy. The Air Force pilots and technicians behind the remote-controlled cargo planes and Cruise Missile, the people who planted the explosives in the Twin Towers, the security guards who were bribed to ignore this, and so on.

Indeed, no certified Structural Engineer or explosives expert has confirmed the “9/11 conspiracy” hypothesis. Are in on the conspiracy theory too? Or did the US government perform a perfect hoax, that fooled all the experts and had no dissenters?

After viewing all the evidence, I find the “official story” to be much more elegant and considerably less complicated. Also, Popular Mechanics (and indeed, Peen & Teller) have debunked many of the claims 9/11 conspiracy theorists have made. For example, steel does not need to melt to lose all of its structural integrity, it simply needs to heated to about 800 degrees, and jet fuel can burn at up to 1200 degrees. Thus, a fire of jet fuel & office objects could have weakened the Twin Towers to collapse.

Finally, we must talk about conformation bias. This is when someone (a researcher, scientist or conspiracy theorist for example) is based towards hypothesis being correct, and thus they interpret all the data to confirm this, and ignore any data that does not. Yes, even scientists can be guilty of this.

Consider a conspiracy theorist: they believe the United States government is responsible for many of the horrible things that have happened in recent US history (like the JFK assassination). So they are biased: they believe the US government does bad things, and so they interpret and present the evidence to support the hypothesis that the US government was behind 9/11.

So, in short, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists are biased. Too much so for their version of 9/11 to be credible. Yes, I admit structural engineers and explosives experts are somewhat biased in their own way, but if every expert in several fields confirm a conclusion (Al Qaeda is responsible for 9/11), then it is a strong point in favor of the “official story”

So, in conclusion, using Occam's Razor, we would determine that the scenario of Al Qaeda being responsible for the attacks, while intelligence experts with political agendas and an outdated world-view ignored the evidence, either consciously or unconsciously.

(I can de-bunk more specific claims by the 9/11 conspiracy theorists if asked to do so.)

Finally, let me end on a slightly humorous note. A web-comic about confirmation bias:

Al-Qaida:
They would have had to find willing suicide candidates. This probably isn't TOO hard wit hJihadist education systems and other social problems. They then must legally enter the country. Successfully take courses on piloting and so forth. Then we have to expect that after all that time, they attack on the exact day when NORAD would be least likely to notice? They use very similar attack strategies to those being drilled for that day?

This requires inside government Info I would imagine. Then these people have to hijack a plane with what sounded like minimal weaponry. I can only imagine that it wouldn't be hard to over-take. We have the reccords of one set of passangers fighting back, seems easy thugh they screwed up.

The U.S.:
Prepare a trained servicemen (who may be desperate or deep within military confidentiality) to perform a suicide mission. They'll be told to crash two airplanes into the trade towers. For a trained military career fellow who could potentially have already "disapeared" this wouldn't be very hard.

I heard a theory stating that another type of plane was used for the pentagon. Simply a small military plane that can fly at top speed above airtraffic radar. Fake a signal, show up in the correct spot and simply dive (with much more grace than a massive jetliner could possibly perform ESPECIALLY under the control of a noive pilot) straight into a designated section of the building.

The people of the original flight could simply have just been flown off and slaughtered. Maybe even in the ocean? I don't think it would be a difficult cover up.

The bonus is that the government doesn't need thousands of people to be in on it.

The only people so far that need to be in on it are the few pilots and government higher-ups.

If the trade towers were pre-rigged with demolition charges, only the demo team would need to know. Depending on the amount of time for preperation this might have been performed by a small team. There's only one building that appeared to PLAINLY have demo charges in it before-hand which is the infamous building 7.

Considering government resources, it seems EASY for our government to do it. I would be astonished that a small jihadist group could pull it off.


I think people act like it would be difficult for our government to do, which is rediculous. They'd have an easy time of it.

I'm pretty sure there's enough terrorists in the world that we don't have to accuse our own government of being terrorists in our own country. Though I'm not entirely sure that Bush isn't a terrorist in his own right.