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 Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:18 pm
I'll take this one. But I should put up a few sides notes first. I don't believe that Jesus is exactly the same as YHWH, and I don't believe that Jesus is YHWH playing a different role (I'm not Oneness). I believe in the Trinity, that is, Jesus, YHWH, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct personas united in their deity. I believe that Jesus is deity. I believe that one cannot prove that Jesus is not deity based on the Bible.
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:33 am
SoundDoctrine I'll take this one. But I should put up a few sides notes first. I don't believe that Jesus is exactly the same as YHWH, and I don't believe that Jesus is YHWH playing a different role (I'm not Oneness). I believe in the Trinity, that is, Jesus, YHWH, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct personas united in their deity. I believe that Jesus is deity. I believe that one cannot prove that Jesus is not deity based on the Bible. The one problem we may run into on this subject has to do with the question of divinity. What is the operating definition?
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:53 am
I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever.
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:44 am
Elf Lord Chiewn SoundDoctrine I'll take this one. But I should put up a few sides notes first. I don't believe that Jesus is exactly the same as YHWH, and I don't believe that Jesus is YHWH playing a different role (I'm not Oneness). I believe in the Trinity, that is, Jesus, YHWH, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct personas united in their deity. I believe that Jesus is deity. I believe that one cannot prove that Jesus is not deity based on the Bible. The one problem we may run into on this subject has to do with the question of divinity. What is the operating definition? Shoot. That's a good question. I'm thinking of an entity which is above both humans and angels, able to go against logic, such as being human and deity at the same time, or being able to do what some would consider impossible, such as raising the dead or ascending into heaven, and an entity which is a deity because said entity was begotten of God, or another deity, being that entity is called,"the only begotten Son of God". Is that good enough, or do I need to go further?
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:55 am
M-mann I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever. You know, I would but I just don't know enough to have a withstanding argument. Everytime I debate it with someone, they either tell me I am mixing communism with either socialism, not-true-communism, marxism, etc. So I just give up. I am normally against communism.
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:54 pm
My Conscience M-mann I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever. You know, I would but I just don't know enough to have a withstanding argument. Everytime I debate it with someone, they either tell me I am mixing communism with either socialism, not-true-communism, marxism, etc. So I just give up. I am normally against communism. Awwwww, come on.... Just one argument... Come on you can triple team me if you want.
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:18 pm
M-mann My Conscience M-mann I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever. You know, I would but I just don't know enough to have a withstanding argument. Everytime I debate it with someone, they either tell me I am mixing communism with either socialism, not-true-communism, marxism, etc. So I just give up. I am normally against communism. Awwwww, come on.... Just one argument... Come on you can triple team me if you want. I'll take you, but first: Are you a theoretical Communist or a realist communist? Do you favor perfict socialism as a theory or as a practice?
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:30 pm
[.Parade.of.Underpants.] M-mann My Conscience M-mann I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever. You know, I would but I just don't know enough to have a withstanding argument. Everytime I debate it with someone, they either tell me I am mixing communism with either socialism, not-true-communism, marxism, etc. So I just give up. I am normally against communism. Awwwww, come on.... Just one argument... Come on you can triple team me if you want. I'll take you, but first: Are you a theoretical Communist or a realist communist? Do you favor perfict socialism as a theory or as a practice? ? I'm a....Dialectical Marxist Communist....?
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:09 am
M-mann [.Parade.of.Underpants.] M-mann My Conscience M-mann I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever. You know, I would but I just don't know enough to have a withstanding argument. Everytime I debate it with someone, they either tell me I am mixing communism with either socialism, not-true-communism, marxism, etc. So I just give up. I am normally against communism. Awwwww, come on.... Just one argument... Come on you can triple team me if you want. I'll take you, but first: Are you a theoretical Communist or a realist communist? Do you favor perfict socialism as a theory or as a practice? ? I'm a....Dialectical Marxist Communist....? Rather than debate you, I wouldn't mind discussing your thoughts on communism and how you would respond to my dissenting opinions. I haven't really affiliated myself with any social ideological theory. I have my doubts with some of communisms ideas. I think my main discontent is technological advances. In a capitalistic society, technological advances occur because of the demand for the consumer. Companies invest their money into innovations to beat their competitors. Do to factors of budget, distribution, competitors, and consumers, companies make their products more efficient, cheaper, better, and they better adhere to the wants of the consumer. How would technological advances occur in a communistic-type society?
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:18 pm
M-mann [.Parade.of.Underpants.] M-mann My Conscience M-mann I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever. You know, I would but I just don't know enough to have a withstanding argument. Everytime I debate it with someone, they either tell me I am mixing communism with either socialism, not-true-communism, marxism, etc. So I just give up. I am normally against communism. Awwwww, come on.... Just one argument... Come on you can triple team me if you want. I'll take you, but first: Are you a theoretical Communist or a realist communist? Do you favor perfict socialism as a theory or as a practice? ? I'm a....Dialectical Marxist Communist....? Im going to go find out what that means, but I'll be back.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:09 pm
Were you around for my old thread on this? I forgot who ripped into and who dd not. If you weren't there before for it, I will take you on this just for fun. wink
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:32 pm
My Conscience M-mann [.Parade.of.Underpants.] M-mann My Conscience M-mann I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever. You know, I would but I just don't know enough to have a withstanding argument. Everytime I debate it with someone, they either tell me I am mixing communism with either socialism, not-true-communism, marxism, etc. So I just give up. I am normally against communism. Awwwww, come on.... Just one argument... Come on you can triple team me if you want. I'll take you, but first: Are you a theoretical Communist or a realist communist? Do you favor perfict socialism as a theory or as a practice? ? I'm a....Dialectical Marxist Communist....? Rather than debate you, I wouldn't mind discussing your thoughts on communism and how you would respond to my dissenting opinions. I haven't really affiliated myself with any social ideological theory. I have my doubts with some of communisms ideas. I think my main discontent is technological advances. In a capitalistic society, technological advances occur because of the demand for the consumer. Companies invest their money into innovations to beat their competitors. Do to factors of budget, distribution, competitors, and consumers, companies make their products more efficient, cheaper, better, and they better adhere to the wants of the consumer. How would technological advances occur in a communistic-type society? Actually, I thought technology advanced because of the military. The race to develop things before the other guys, thats how we got the internet.
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:39 pm
My Conscience M-mann [.Parade.of.Underpants.] M-mann My Conscience M-mann I challenge anyone to an argument about Communism. Wherever, whenever. You know, I would but I just don't know enough to have a withstanding argument. Everytime I debate it with someone, they either tell me I am mixing communism with either socialism, not-true-communism, marxism, etc. So I just give up. I am normally against communism. Awwwww, come on.... Just one argument... Come on you can triple team me if you want. I'll take you, but first: Are you a theoretical Communist or a realist communist? Do you favor perfict socialism as a theory or as a practice? ? I'm a....Dialectical Marxist Communist....? Rather than debate you, I wouldn't mind discussing your thoughts on communism and how you would respond to my dissenting opinions. I haven't really affiliated myself with any social ideological theory. I have my doubts with some of communisms ideas. I think my main discontent is technological advances. In a capitalistic society, technological advances occur because of the demand for the consumer. Companies invest their money into innovations to beat their competitors. Do to factors of budget, distribution, competitors, and consumers, companies make their products more efficient, cheaper, better, and they better adhere to the wants of the consumer. How would technological advances occur in a communistic-type society? The have technological advances now because of effieceny correct? And the seek efficiency because it makes them more profit and such. Jsut take that and subtract the money part. That's technological advances under Communism. In Socialism? The same way the Military makes technological advances, or any other state owned institution. Deo Machina defined it well for Socialism.
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:36 am
M-mann My Conscience M-mann [.Parade.of.Underpants.] M-mann Awwwww, come on.... Just one argument... Come on you can triple team me if you want. I'll take you, but first: Are you a theoretical Communist or a realist communist? Do you favor perfict socialism as a theory or as a practice? ? I'm a....Dialectical Marxist Communist....? Rather than debate you, I wouldn't mind discussing your thoughts on communism and how you would respond to my dissenting opinions. I haven't really affiliated myself with any social ideological theory. I have my doubts with some of communisms ideas. I think my main discontent is technological advances. In a capitalistic society, technological advances occur because of the demand for the consumer. Companies invest their money into innovations to beat their competitors. Do to factors of budget, distribution, competitors, and consumers, companies make their products more efficient, cheaper, better, and they better adhere to the wants of the consumer. How would technological advances occur in a communistic-type society? The have technological advances now because of effieceny correct? And the seek efficiency because it makes them more profit and such. Jsut take that and subtract the money part. That's technological advances under Communism. In Socialism? The same way the Military makes technological advances, or any other state owned institution. Deo Machina defined it well for Socialism. I don't want to generalize communism incorrectly. This is my take on it (If I am wrong call me on it). Each communist city works independently. They have their own doctors, their own producers of homes, etc. There is no need for many home builders. Because of the inefficiency for the town having many home builders without the competition, they only have one. Having many producers is inefficiency for the town. They only need one producer of a product that works for everyone. Now, where do the technological advances come in? Why "waist" time to make technological advances for your town when you already have suitable working products? I am just afraid that we will end up like Australia, which is 50 years behind in technology. Actually... can you explain how you view how each town will work?
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:53 am
My Conscience I don't want to generalize communism incorrectly. This is my take on it (If I am wrong call me on it). Each communist city works independently. They have their own doctors, their own producers of homes, etc. There is no need for many home builders. Because of the inefficiency for the town having many home builders without the competition, they only have one. Having many producers is inefficiency for the town. They only need one producer of a product that works for everyone. Now, where do the technological advances come in? Why "waist" time to make technological advances for your town when you already have suitable working products? I am just afraid that we will end up like Australia, which is 50 years behind in technology. Actually... can you explain how you view how each town will work? Ehhh....... The competition isn't so much of a problem. In fact I would theorize most of us shouldn't care. In fact greed probably wouldn't bother us too much either in some instances. Just as long as you have cooperation. In any rate the goal of the producers or any such thing is a surplus, It allows for easier distrbution and solves the problem of being under-supplied. So the Technological gaisn woudl be purely so effieceny is increased and therefore prodcution is increased. I imagine there would be a quota they would liek to meet, but I don't think there would be a problem in exceeding it.
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