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three words..... chaotic evil rogue...

this is every ce rogues mentality. "alright we just beat that mindflayer... the party is down to 10 hp or less... i have an elven cloak i'm a dex whore... they'd never find me with my lightning bow and sniping.... plus the sorc is all out of spells"

-two rounds and 50 arrows later (ya in 3.5 there is a rule error i think that allows the rogue to keep multiplying arrows with many-shot and multi-shot and s**t so he can fire like 22 arrows in a round at lvl 11...)

"wow I killed the whole party and ruined 4months of rp'in for 13k in gold! now i can.... wait now the whole campaign is pointless..."

((dm intervention)) "ok everyone wakes up without the rogue in a temple of palor. since none of your could beat a dc 53 for your spot check no one knows what happened...."

((me getting pissed)) "wtf! He was the only other person in the cave and he is now missing and we died... how the ******** am I not supposed to know? and what justified killing the whole party!"

((ce rogue)) "well i'm chaotic evil."
((me)) "chaotic evil not psychopathic homicidal maniac who has a death wish!"
((dm)) "if that's how he wants to play his rogue!"
((me)) "******** this I quit.... this is so stupid i just lost my holy surge sword, adamantine platemail, cloak of spider climb, necklace and gaunts of ogre strength, and my helmet of true sight.... ******** this stupid campaign i'm never playing with you again."

Well to be fair he was a choatic evil thief and you all had good stuff and your guards were down, he probaly could retire nicely with just the stuff you left behind. But that was an a*****e of a thing to do, by being that alignment alone he was asking for trouble.

First of all: If a character is firing (munchkinism, by the by. The DM should've corrected this error. The rogue could potentially fire massive amounts of arrows, but they would continually suffer -2 (x22) to every shot, each one at the rogue's highest base attack bonus (+8, at 11th level). That comes to -36 on every single shot. You're not hitting a single damned thing.) 22 arrows, the party would've been able to flawlessly detail the location of the party member while these arrows were being fired. As well as that, they party would've been no longer flat-footed after the first shot, and Sneak Attack damage only applies to the first arrow. The rogue wouldn't've pulled any of that off.

Also, considering a full attack action takes 6 seconds, that rogue would've had to been firing arrows once every 0.27 seconds. It simply doesn't work. Period.

Ontop of that: Chaotic Evil is not an alignment that works well with any party. Chaotic Evil exists only to provide an alignment for merciless slaughter-type individuals. The rogue would've been killing everyone and every thing that didn't abide to it's every word from the very beginning of the campaign. Roleplaying failure on the Players behalf, right there.

So do me a favor: Inform that DM that he has been officially e-vicerated (lame, I know. xd ) by a real DM.

Danke. <3

Edit:
As well, each fired arrow would add a cumulative -2 penalty to the Hide Check. The hide check would've gone down to a DC of 12, and the rogue would've automatically failed the move silently check while firing due to the heavy twang of a bow. Period.

Feel free to kick both the player in question and the DM in the nuts for me. Several times. <3

Four arrows in one second isn't possible with any bow outside of a Repeating Crossbow. Even then, the character wouldn't've fired off the 22 arrows.
And if your characters are rolling a check with a DC of 80, you're playing a Munchkinized campaign and should leave. Period.

And you wouldn't've been able to roll a Bluff check on a party member. You do not roll Sense Motive, Bluff, Intimidate, etc., checks against party members. It's your job as a Role Player to convince them to do so yourself, and the other player(s) to react appropreately.
Even then, no matter the height of the Bluff Check, you cannot inspire a character to perform an act that is two or more steps out of his alignment, let alone a complete reversal.
You'd've had that LG Fighter acting as either NE or CE, which are far out of the one-step-progression from his true alignment. Changing an alignment that dramatically takes magical intervention or a large period of time (several weeks, possibly a collection of months) in game.

More flawed roleplaying via Munchkinism and failed roleplaying.
It saddens me.

"Bad" and "Evil" are two different things.
A Lawful Good character is more likely to have the individual imprisoned rather than killed. If the Wizard is malicious and has been acting questionably, there is a chance that the Fighter could be convinced to kill him.
However, if there is no "bad/evil" behaviors being made by the Wizard, the Lawful Good character is liable to distrust the individual making these claims than anything else.

Further failures in roleplaying.

I'm sorry, but I'll have to bring out the calculator as well as the PHB



you said you were 11th level?
that gives him 3 arrows fired in a round. say he hits, hell, say he crits.
We'll just assume max damage for everything. first is the crit of 18 damage, plus 36 sneak attack. let's then add 12 from the other two arrows.
18
+36
+12
66 damage.
to one member of the party.
I use Many-shot because it's the only one he could do while still sniping


sorry, but that hit one one of my pet peeves.
I hate it when people don't know how to use their charecters properly.