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 Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:09 am
Xx_Nobody_xX DR490N greetings. the name is Jesse. there isnt that much for me to say at this point about my own vampirism. i'm still relatively new to it all (awakened just over a year ago), and still questioning quite heavily. If I am indeed the vamp i believe myself to be, i'm a hybrid, though predominately a psifeeder(most of the time anyways) due to convenience. I hope you mean hybrid as in "running on two fuels" type. Well psi vampires don't need blood period, they can drink it and get pranic, but it is unneeded and usually can fill them up faster and for awhile (From my own experience). Sanguinarians on the other hand even in they take psi energy have to have at least a teaspoon (Less or more) of blood a month I've heard. Some Sanguinarians only need a teaspoon a month to remain full. It usually depends on the vampire. But I do know a Sanguinarian has to have blood every so often even if they are psi feeding. Sorry, I just felt compelled to offer spelling assistance. I technically could have also substituted Sanguinarian with Sanguivore(though I rarely hear that term being used) or even Blood feeders, Sangs or Sanguinary Vampires. cool [/geek moment]
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:55 pm
Pageantry Xx_Nobody_xX DR490N greetings. the name is Jesse. there isnt that much for me to say at this point about my own vampirism. i'm still relatively new to it all (awakened just over a year ago), and still questioning quite heavily. If I am indeed the vamp i believe myself to be, i'm a hybrid, though predominately a psifeeder(most of the time anyways) due to convenience. I hope you mean hybrid as in "running on two fuels" type. Well psi vampires don't need blood period, they can drink it and get pranic, but it is unneeded and usually can fill them up faster and for awhile (From my own experience). Sanguinarians on the other hand even in they take psi energy have to have at least a teaspoon (Less or more) of blood a month I've heard. Some Sanguinarians only need a teaspoon a month to remain full. It usually depends on the vampire. But I do know a Sanguinarian has to have blood every so often even if they are psi feeding. Sorry, I just felt compelled to offer spelling assistance. I technically could have also substituted Sanguinarian with Sanguivore(though I rarely hear that term being used) or even Blood feeders, Sangs or Sanguinary Vampires. cool [/geek moment] lol, Thanks. I could have went and got the spelling, but I was being lazy. mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:07 pm
Xx_Nobody_xX Pageantry Xx_Nobody_xX I hope you mean hybrid as in "running on two fuels" type. Well psi vampires don't need blood period, they can drink it and get pranic, but it is unneeded and usually can fill them up faster and for awhile (From my own experience). Sanguinarians on the other hand even in they take psi energy have to have at least a teaspoon (Less or more) of blood a month I've heard. Some Sanguinarians only need a teaspoon a month to remain full. It usually depends on the vampire. But I do know a Sanguinarian has to have blood every so often even if they are psi feeding. Sorry, I just felt compelled to offer spelling assistance. I technically could have also substituted Sanguinarian with Sanguivore(though I rarely hear that term being used) or even Blood feeders, Sangs or Sanguinary Vampires. cool [/geek moment] lol, Thanks. I could have went and got the spelling, but I was being lazy. mrgreen Hey, no problem. Glad to help. whee
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:45 am
I find it quite odd how the documentation of Psi-vampires, and the blood drinking type of the romantic Anne Rice style didn't exist before the creation of the book "Dracula". Just a note I'd like to add right there. The closest thing to a Psi-Vampire that existed then was a malicious Serbian spirit who would suck out the souls of the living, and was invisible to most ordinary humans.
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:46 am
Blind Guardian the 2nd I find it quite odd how the documentation of Psi-vampires, and the blood drinking type of the romantic Anne Rice style didn't exist before the creation of the book "Dracula". Just a note I'd like to add right there. The closest thing to a Psi-Vampire that existed then was a malicious Serbian spirit who would suck out the souls of the living, and was invisible to most ordinary humans. thats because before then it was all hearsay. amny many different cultures had legends and the like. also, to clarify what was said by me before, i mean i have the ability to gain my energy through prana and blood, as well as several other sources...elemental energy, electromagnetic fields, emotional energies, sexual energy, etc.
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:41 pm
DR490N Blind Guardian the 2nd I find it quite odd how the documentation of Psi-vampires, and the blood drinking type of the romantic Anne Rice style didn't exist before the creation of the book "Dracula". Just a note I'd like to add right there. The closest thing to a Psi-Vampire that existed then was a malicious Serbian spirit who would suck out the souls of the living, and was invisible to most ordinary humans. thats because before then it was all hearsay. amny many different cultures had legends and the like. also, to clarify what was said by me before, i mean i have the ability to gain my energy through prana and blood, as well as several other sources...elemental energy, electromagnetic fields, emotional energies, sexual energy, etc. How could it be "hearsay" when every culture had their legends? Everyone knew them. But until the release of Dracula, vampires were portrayed as little more than flesh-eating zombies who rose by night. When Dracula created, a new air about the creatures arose. They were no longer inhuman, but almost completely human save for their parasitic desires. The point I am making is, can you really say that before the publishing of a mainstream book, all vampirism was just misunderstood hearsay, or maybe it took a different portrayal of vampires to lead people into believing that's what they were? It's a pretty big assumption to make right there chaps.
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:03 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd DR490N Blind Guardian the 2nd I find it quite odd how the documentation of Psi-vampires, and the blood drinking type of the romantic Anne Rice style didn't exist before the creation of the book "Dracula". Just a note I'd like to add right there. The closest thing to a Psi-Vampire that existed then was a malicious Serbian spirit who would suck out the souls of the living, and was invisible to most ordinary humans. thats because before then it was all hearsay. amny many different cultures had legends and the like. also, to clarify what was said by me before, i mean i have the ability to gain my energy through prana and blood, as well as several other sources...elemental energy, electromagnetic fields, emotional energies, sexual energy, etc. How could it be "hearsay" when every culture had their legends? Everyone knew them. But until the release of Dracula, vampires were portrayed as little more than flesh-eating zombies who rose by night. When Dracula created, a new air about the creatures arose. They were no longer inhuman, but almost completely human save for their parasitic desires. The point I am making is, can you really say that before the publishing of a mainstream book, all vampirism was just misunderstood hearsay, or maybe it took a different portrayal of vampires to lead people into believing that's what they were? It's a pretty big assumption to make right there chaps. It could honestly go either way. I don't have any knowledge of the state of affairs in those days so all I could do is speculate. I simply don't know enough about it to say. There was an idea I read one time that vampires, as we know them, were alive and well back then and used the folklore as a smokescreen for their own presence. When the suspected vampiric corpse was destroyed, the real vampires moved on to another place. No proof to support any of this, but I thought it was interesting.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:51 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd I find it quite odd how the documentation of Psi-vampires, and the blood drinking type of the romantic Anne Rice style didn't exist before the creation of the book "Dracula". Just a note I'd like to add right there. The closest thing to a Psi-Vampire that existed then was a malicious Serbian spirit who would suck out the souls of the living, and was invisible to most ordinary humans. Documentation of psi-vampires did exist prior to Dracula. They were not known as vampires, but as succubi, incubi, and empusas*. While they did take the sexual energy of an individual, and not pure energy, they can still be considered a varient of psi-vampires. Another myth that involves vampires that are similar to psi-vampires is the one on Strigoi Viu (one who is still living but born predestined to become an undead Strigoi Mort, a vampire). In most ways, the Romanian Strigoi Morti resemble the undead vampires found in other Eastern European countries. They can be destroyed after exhuming their dormant bodies from the grave by such typical means as impaling them with a stake or by cremating them. And they were frequently blamed as the cause of death in cases of epidemics - with the dead victims frequently becoming Strigoi Morti, too. The Strigoi Viu is not a blood drinker - but his powers include what could be called psychic vampirism - he can steal the vitality of his neighbors' crops and animals to enhance his own. There are also some myths of vampires that don't depict them purely as "flesh-eating zombies." For example, the Brazilian Jaracara. This type of vampire drinks the blood of young women, as well as their milk. The Sasabonsam of West Africa does not eat the flesh of humans, but just the blood by biting the victim on the thumb, after having caught them by the hooks of their feet. Of course the information I have could be wrong, I have not taken the time to research the accuracy of these myths, and I do admit I got them from another forum. This forum I have found to be fairly accurate with their information. *Empusas are from Ancient Greece and Rome. They appear as either beautiful women or ancient hags. They are strongly related to the incubi and succubi.
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:14 am
Yami_Cerial Blind Guardian the 2nd I find it quite odd how the documentation of Psi-vampires, and the blood drinking type of the romantic Anne Rice style didn't exist before the creation of the book "Dracula". Just a note I'd like to add right there. The closest thing to a Psi-Vampire that existed then was a malicious Serbian spirit who would suck out the souls of the living, and was invisible to most ordinary humans. Documentation of psi-vampires did exist prior to Dracula. They were not known as vampires, but as succubi, incubi, and empusas*. While they did take the sexual energy of an individual, and not pure energy, they can still be considered a varient of psi-vampires. Another myth that involves vampires that are similar to psi-vampires is the one on Strigoi Viu (one who is still living but born predestined to become an undead Strigoi Mort, a vampire). In most ways, the Romanian Strigoi Morti resemble the undead vampires found in other Eastern European countries. They can be destroyed after exhuming their dormant bodies from the grave by such typical means as impaling them with a stake or by cremating them. And they were frequently blamed as the cause of death in cases of epidemics - with the dead victims frequently becoming Strigoi Morti, too. The Strigoi Viu is not a blood drinker - but his powers include what could be called psychic vampirism - he can steal the vitality of his neighbors' crops and animals to enhance his own. There are also some myths of vampires that don't depict them purely as "flesh-eating zombies." For example, the Brazilian Jaracara. This type of vampire drinks the blood of young women, as well as their milk. The Sasabonsam of West Africa does not eat the flesh of humans, but just the blood by biting the victim on the thumb, after having caught them by the hooks of their feet. Of course the information I have could be wrong, I have not taken the time to research the accuracy of these myths, and I do admit I got them from another forum. This forum I have found to be fairly accurate with their information. *Empusas are from Ancient Greece and Rome. They appear as either beautiful women or ancient hags. They are strongly related to the incubi and succubi.So why don't you call yourselves succubi, and the like, rather than vampires, if that's what you bear a closer resembelence to? Most vampires in folklore, as you have pointed out, bear no resembelence to a human. The succubi you mentioned are a different story, and, I must point out, there are far too many versions of which to simply portray them as a psi variant. For instance, Francis Barret described succubi as wood nymphs in his book "The Magus". What's more, there is absolutely NOTHING to show that they actually drained energy in the same way that psi-vampires claim to. One story of a succubus was told by Walter Mapes in his "De Nugis Curialium" and shows exactly what I mean. It's about Gerbert of Aurillac, who became Pope Sylvester II (999-1003). "As a young man, Gerbert fell in love with the daughter of the Provost of Rheims. She rejected him, and he became despaired. One day he met a beautiful maiden named Meridiana who offered him sex, magical knowledge, and money if he would only stay faithful to her. He agreed and prospered rapidly becoming Archbishop of Rheims, Cardinal, Archbishop of Ravenna, and ultimately Pope. All the while, he kept Meridiana secret, and she even forgave him when the Provost's daughter found him inebriated and seduced him one day. Finally, Meridiana prophesied that Gerbert would die as he celebrated mass in Jerusalem, which turned out to be a church close by possessing an alleged piece of the Cross. Realizing he was about to die, Gerbert made a public confession of his sins and died repentant. Mapes also noted that Gerbert's tomb in the Lateran sweats copiously before the death of a Pope." Find me one point in that story, other than his death, where anything like psi-powers are mentioned. Sorry, maybe I should have made things clearer. Widely known European and Chinese myths depicted them as flesh-eating zombies, with a few exceptions. My point was they were never depicted as being mistakable for humans.
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:34 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd Yami_Cerial Blind Guardian the 2nd I find it quite odd how the documentation of Psi-vampires, and the blood drinking type of the romantic Anne Rice style didn't exist before the creation of the book "Dracula". Just a note I'd like to add right there. The closest thing to a Psi-Vampire that existed then was a malicious Serbian spirit who would suck out the souls of the living, and was invisible to most ordinary humans. Documentation of psi-vampires did exist prior to Dracula. They were not known as vampires, but as succubi, incubi, and empusas*. While they did take the sexual energy of an individual, and not pure energy, they can still be considered a varient of psi-vampires. Another myth that involves vampires that are similar to psi-vampires is the one on Strigoi Viu (one who is still living but born predestined to become an undead Strigoi Mort, a vampire). In most ways, the Romanian Strigoi Morti resemble the undead vampires found in other Eastern European countries. They can be destroyed after exhuming their dormant bodies from the grave by such typical means as impaling them with a stake or by cremating them. And they were frequently blamed as the cause of death in cases of epidemics - with the dead victims frequently becoming Strigoi Morti, too. The Strigoi Viu is not a blood drinker - but his powers include what could be called psychic vampirism - he can steal the vitality of his neighbors' crops and animals to enhance his own. There are also some myths of vampires that don't depict them purely as "flesh-eating zombies." For example, the Brazilian Jaracara. This type of vampire drinks the blood of young women, as well as their milk. The Sasabonsam of West Africa does not eat the flesh of humans, but just the blood by biting the victim on the thumb, after having caught them by the hooks of their feet. Of course the information I have could be wrong, I have not taken the time to research the accuracy of these myths, and I do admit I got them from another forum. This forum I have found to be fairly accurate with their information. *Empusas are from Ancient Greece and Rome. They appear as either beautiful women or ancient hags. They are strongly related to the incubi and succubi.So why don't you call yourselves succubi, and the like, rather than vampires, if that's what you bear a closer resembelence to? Most vampires in folklore, as you have pointed out, bear no resembelence to a human. The succubi you mentioned are a different story, and, I must point out, there are far too many versions of which to simply portray them as a psi variant. For instance, Francis Barret described succubi as wood nymphs in his book "The Magus". What's more, there is absolutely NOTHING to show that they actually drained energy in the same way that psi-vampires claim to. One story of a succubus was told by Walter Mapes in his "De Nugis Curialium" and shows exactly what I mean. It's about Gerbert of Aurillac, who became Pope Sylvester II (999-1003). "As a young man, Gerbert fell in love with the daughter of the Provost of Rheims. She rejected him, and he became despaired. One day he met a beautiful maiden named Meridiana who offered him sex, magical knowledge, and money if he would only stay faithful to her. He agreed and prospered rapidly becoming Archbishop of Rheims, Cardinal, Archbishop of Ravenna, and ultimately Pope. All the while, he kept Meridiana secret, and she even forgave him when the Provost's daughter found him inebriated and seduced him one day. Finally, Meridiana prophesied that Gerbert would die as he celebrated mass in Jerusalem, which turned out to be a church close by possessing an alleged piece of the Cross. Realizing he was about to die, Gerbert made a public confession of his sins and died repentant. Mapes also noted that Gerbert's tomb in the Lateran sweats copiously before the death of a Pope." Find me one point in that story, other than his death, where anything like psi-powers are mentioned. Sorry, maybe I should have made things clearer. Widely known European and Chinese myths depicted them as flesh-eating zombies, with a few exceptions. My point was they were never depicted as being mistakable for humans. Succubi and Incubbi are considered a subspecies (or rather a different race) of vampire, there are many versions of the vampire in many different cultures known by different names, but they are still inclusion in the name of vampire. Myths are notorious for exaggerating details, it's like a fishermen's tale. While vampires of myths looked like horrible monsters and blood-thirsty killers, in actuality any encounters with vampires were probably nothing special. If someone was attacked, and drained of a little blood, it would be dishonor upon a person if a normal looking human over-powered them. It's not a far stretch to see somone change the appearance of their attacker just to make it seem like something grotesque had tried to kill them, and they valiently survived (in the cases that their friend/companion/etc.. had died, then all the more honor to the surviving person for living through the experience). The mentality of the society has to be taken in with any discussion on old world (I use this term in the sense of time not location) vampires. I don't really see how the death of Gerbert is related to psi-powers since you did not go into details on it. I would have to know more details of the story before I could start poking for instances. Psi-vampirism does not tend to lead to death, more often then not it leads to larthy. The Romanian myth of Strigoi Viu has vampires that look like humans, and can pass as humans. While I do not know if this is a widel known myth, the people I have talked with knew of it, but I have to admit they are vampire buffs.
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:19 pm
Yami_Cerial Succubi and Incubbi are considered a subspecies (or rather a different race) of vampire, there are many versions of the vampire in many different cultures known by different names, but they are still inclusion in the name of vampire. Myths are notorious for exaggerating details, it's like a fishermen's tale. While vampires of myths looked like horrible monsters and blood-thirsty killers, in actuality any encounters with vampires were probably nothing special. If someone was attacked, and drained of a little blood, it would be dishonor upon a person if a normal looking human over-powered them. It's not a far stretch to see somone change the appearance of their attacker just to make it seem like something grotesque had tried to kill them, and they valiently survived (in the cases that their friend/companion/etc.. had died, then all the more honor to the surviving person for living through the experience). The mentality of the society has to be taken in with any discussion on old world (I use this term in the sense of time not location) vampires. I don't really see how the death of Gerbert is related to psi-powers since you did not go into details on it. I would have to know more details of the story before I could start poking for instances. Psi-vampirism does not tend to lead to death, more often then not it leads to larthy. The Romanian myth of Strigoi Viu has vampires that look like humans, and can pass as humans. While I do not know if this is a widel known myth, the people I have talked with knew of it, but I have to admit they are vampire buffs. I've never heard of them referred to as vampires. You want more details? Read the book it was from, "De Nugis Curialum". The fact is, your claims of vampires are backed by no texts. None at all. If you want to make these wild claims of legends, I want reliable text sources documenting them. The fact is, folklore doesn't go unrecorded. Anthropologists usually take quite some time noting these down and frankly, if they aren't noted down, they could be completely made up. Sorry to approach this so rigidly but I am actually interested in finding out if ANY vampires, be them psi or sanguine, can actually put their money where their mouth is and convince me. I don't have a closed mind regarding the subject. If anything, I would LIKE to believe. But the fact that the vampire community seems to be concetrated around the internet, most notably on a website for young teenagers, makes me VERY suspicious of the entire thing.
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:05 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd Yami_Cerial Succubi and Incubbi are considered a subspecies (or rather a different race) of vampire, there are many versions of the vampire in many different cultures known by different names, but they are still inclusion in the name of vampire. Myths are notorious for exaggerating details, it's like a fishermen's tale. While vampires of myths looked like horrible monsters and blood-thirsty killers, in actuality any encounters with vampires were probably nothing special. If someone was attacked, and drained of a little blood, it would be dishonor upon a person if a normal looking human over-powered them. It's not a far stretch to see somone change the appearance of their attacker just to make it seem like something grotesque had tried to kill them, and they valiently survived (in the cases that their friend/companion/etc.. had died, then all the more honor to the surviving person for living through the experience). The mentality of the society has to be taken in with any discussion on old world (I use this term in the sense of time not location) vampires. I don't really see how the death of Gerbert is related to psi-powers since you did not go into details on it. I would have to know more details of the story before I could start poking for instances. Psi-vampirism does not tend to lead to death, more often then not it leads to larthy. The Romanian myth of Strigoi Viu has vampires that look like humans, and can pass as humans. While I do not know if this is a widel known myth, the people I have talked with knew of it, but I have to admit they are vampire buffs. I've never heard of them referred to as vampires. You want more details? Read the book it was from, "De Nugis Curialum". The fact is, your claims of vampires are backed by no texts. None at all. If you want to make these wild claims of legends, I want reliable text sources documenting them. The fact is, folklore doesn't go unrecorded. Anthropologists usually take quite some time noting these down and frankly, if they aren't noted down, they could be completely made up. Sorry to approach this so rigidly but I am actually interested in finding out if ANY vampires, be them psi or sanguine, can actually put their money where their mouth is and convince me. I don't have a closed mind regarding the subject. If anything, I would LIKE to believe. But the fact that the vampire community seems to be concetrated around the internet, most notably on a website for young teenagers, makes me VERY suspicious of the entire thing. The vampire community isn't concentrated around a website for young teenagers. There are several adults only vampire websites. And "sharing magical knowledge" could be considered a psi power, but I'm just nitpicking. If you really want proof of vampires, go to a vampire classifieds board and try to find one near where you live. Any psi vampire worth their salt should be able to induce nausea and vertigo in you without the use of touch.
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:35 am
The Vampire Jonathan The vampire community isn't concentrated around a website for young teenagers. There are several adults only vampire websites. And "sharing magical knowledge" could be considered a psi power, but I'm just nitpicking. If you really want proof of vampires, go to a vampire classifieds board and try to find one near where you live. Any psi vampire worth their salt should be able to induce nausea and vertigo in you without the use of touch. Sounds like a challenge. cool
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:02 am
Blind Guardian the 2nd The Vampire Jonathan The vampire community isn't concentrated around a website for young teenagers. There are several adults only vampire websites. And "sharing magical knowledge" could be considered a psi power, but I'm just nitpicking. If you really want proof of vampires, go to a vampire classifieds board and try to find one near where you live. Any psi vampire worth their salt should be able to induce nausea and vertigo in you without the use of touch. Sounds like a challenge. cool I, too, would like to see how this turns out...please, let me know, Bow Boy.
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:57 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd The Vampire Jonathan The vampire community isn't concentrated around a website for young teenagers. There are several adults only vampire websites. And "sharing magical knowledge" could be considered a psi power, but I'm just nitpicking. If you really want proof of vampires, go to a vampire classifieds board and try to find one near where you live. Any psi vampire worth their salt should be able to induce nausea and vertigo in you without the use of touch. Sounds like a challenge. cool If you can find someone then I fully encourage you to try it. Just be safe about it and all that. You know, wackos on the Internet and whatnot.
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