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Not true. If you have a president & congress on the same side with the majority of the same goals, then you can really make things happen. In American history: FDR passed hundreds of new programs and passed dozens of laws, which led to enhanced worker's rights, and a dramatic decrease in unemployment (Even Stalin couldn't have gotten more people employed). LBJ did the same for the Great Society. Now (Hopefully) Obama can do the same.

We do not need to murder anyone or revolt against anything. Just like MLK, all you have to do is show how bad things really are for the everyday Joe and people (including congress) will listen.

Not true. Weapons only complicate the situation. I became a junior cops, did the paramilitary training and law training. I know how they work. Being calm and non-submissive is the best tactic. State your rights if you strike. They can't bust Union strikes.

Exactly. Once you have everyone in a particular place on the same team, all working together for the good of the state, then NOBODY can take away a revolution of the masses. It not only shows the discontent the people are going through, but also the ineffectiveness of the old government. In Democratic societies, this works flawlessly; however, in Totalitarian states, the Communists might get outside intervention. i.e. UN peacekeepers, USA marines, etc.

No it wasn't. MLK and the nonaggression supporters actually got two civil rights laws passed, a voting law passed, and reached a WOLRDWIDE audience. They got national troops to protect them when they were being attacked.

Your right, citing MLK, LBJ, and Ghandi are a little jaded. They're fifty years...a hundred years past. That said, why do you still cite Marx, Trotsky, or Engels? See my point?

Your right. There will be radicals. There will be conservatives. Something tells me that when the time comes, they will choose conflict with their oppressors rather than fighting amongst themselves.

No, it was the black soldiers coming back from occupying other countries, after not getting treated like s**t, the soldiers coming back from Vietnam and realizing they were fighting a war for 'freedoms' they didn't even have. When they came back, they engaged in militant armed struggle. Their methods were flawed because they relied on black alone, and didn't seek to mobilize the black working class together with the white working class.

Sorry, I can't help but be cynical about police brutality.
Here is a recent example.
(You can probably find a vid of the guy in the last link. He was just walking calmly by...he did nothing.)

OAKLAND—The coldblooded execution of Oscar Grant III, a young black apprentice grocery butcher and father of a four-year-old girl, by Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) cop Johannes Mehserle in the early morning hours of New Year’s Day threw a spotlight on the deadly police terror that is a fact of life for black people in racist America. The video images taken by horrified BART passengers showed Mehserle stand over Grant, methodically draw his Sig Sauer P226 semiautomatic and fire into Grant’s back as another cop held him face down with his hands behind his back. At protests after the brutal killing, demonstrators have carried signs reading “We Are All Oscar Grant” (see “Oscar Grant Killed in Cold Blood by BART Cop,” WV No. 928, 16 January).

The killing of Grant in Oakland, where liberal black Democrat Ron Dellums is mayor, brutally exposes the hoax that the election of a black man, Barack Obama, as U.S. president represents progress toward black equality. Underlining the fallacy of such illusions, in Chicago police killed two black men during a five-day period in March, while the NYPD killed two people in April. Obama’s “stimulus package” for the moribund U.S. economy includes plans to spend billions to beef up the police by hiring 100,000 more thugs in blue: any prospect of a decent job is fading fast for millions of laid-off workers and unemployed youth, but the ruling class has plenty of money to pay its hired guns to intimidate and repress the ghetto masses and those who might protest being thrown on capitalism’s scrap heap.

“When is this going to stop?” cried a black man outside Grant’s memorial. “I’m sick of people acting like we deserve what we get, that because we are black, they can shoot us in the back and get away with it.” More than 1,000 people, largely black and Latino, turned out for the memorial on January 7. Later that night, protesters took their justified outrage to the streets of Oakland, where they were met by an army of Oakland cops (OPD) equipped with riot gear, helicopters and an armored vehicle. The cops fired tear gas and rubber bullets at the protesters and arrested more than 100 people. Among those arrested and slapped with felony charges were David Santos, a 16-year-old supporter of the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP), and JR Valrey, a KPFA programmer and journalist for the San Francisco Bay View who was trying to photograph the police violence. Drop all charges against the anti-racist protesters!

Along with the mailed fist of state repression came the velvet glove: the cops’ masters, from Dellums to California Attorney General Jerry Brown, stepped in to try to dampen the flames of protest with calls for an investigation of Grant’s killing. Behind them in trying to keep the peace was a cabal of black preachers and the newly formed Coalition Against Police Executions (CAPE), which hasn’t been heard from since late February. Echoed by the cringing reformist left, CAPE advanced various schemes for police reform while appealing for redress to state agencies and officials, from Dellums and Brown to the Feds.

The ABCC.
For the Americans here:
The ABCC is like the FBI directed at...
The Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU), currently the most militant and decent union in the country...