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 Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:55 am
RaitoYagami_Kami No Kira Public Pervert I agree. I'm Pro-Kira, but L was my favorite character in the series. When he died, I almost stopped reading. I didn't like Near and Mello as much as L D:
I kinda feel bad for yyour friends, of course, but I wouldn't go Pro-Kira because something bad happened to me personally. Something bad did happen- Kids are idolizing the wrong people, thus becoming like them in real life. I'd kill off the bad people like that, the criminals, and tthe bad people in my life last. Unless it was something like killing off my entire family, I feel that using the Death Note just to get back at your uncle that, say, stole your dad's car, I think it's kinda...selfish.
They don't necissarily idolize Kira for those reasons, they idolize the idea that they might feel some sort of justice...
And its not for petty things like stealing cars. Its people like rapists, violent people who've caused near loss of limb, or movement. Battery, domestic violence. ((I work in a safehouse volunteering, helping them be able to prosecute thies men/people that hurt them and still feel safe....And i meet thies people all the time and somtimes become thier best friend, because i am someone who won't ever hurt them, especially since im male and mostly thies people are hurt by males, so they often feel safe letting me baby sit thier kids while they get thier lives back on track, and even just hanging out with me....)). And they believe that not just the ones who affected them need justice, its for everyone who would do something horrid like this to another person.
Sorry i didn't specify that thies arent selfish, petty, anime obsessed teeny-boppers im talking about. :/
Also, sorry i just sort of...Spilled that all out ^^;; I got offended for the wrong reasons and i get upset when i feel people don't understand the situation and underestimate what im saying, even though its my fault xDD
And Yuki-san, i didn't think you were xD I was just stating. I am, though, a full out Kira person, though i do like the others as well...I just prefer Kira-sama... And teehee...xD You called me Kira :B
Kira-san, I didnt know you volunteered in a safehouse o.o!
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:26 pm
Alrighty, I've contemplated a bit, and fully took my stance on Kira.
I have to say, if I was just a spectator, I would totally root for Kira. I would think of him as my hero.
However, if I were to know people affiliated with the case (Mello, Near, Matt, L) then I would be against him.
So that basically; I'm against Light but for Kira.
Does that make sense?
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:34 pm
This is my first day in this guild and I just thought I would post. I have to say that I do support Kira and wish whole-heartedly that his judgement was being carried out in this world.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:16 pm
What I don't get is why so many fans of DN like Light, but hate him for killing L...I mean, it's what he set out to do from the beginning (well, when he first found out about L) and L was just an obstacle in Kira's way. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing agaisnt L, I just think that Light won fairly against him.
And yes, I hate Near xd
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:02 am
 Through hours of grueling, and agonizing contemplation, I have come to a conclusion and have decided on a stance to take…
I am pro Kira, but I do not agree with all of his eccentric ideas. (Note, I stated this particular thought in the joining application)
Kira and his ideals are somewhat of a paradox, a paradox for ages really. The idea that he can pass judgment deems him a God, the problem with that is… he isn’t and as we are saying that his ideals to pass judgment of death are legitimate reasons to do so, we supply fuel for the thought that “the ends justify the means”. And once again, this is also lackluster, and holds no water.
Let’s say the world does decide to take up Kira’s idea? This would end more disastrously than a communist government in America. Why? Because next thing you know you have people thinking they are God and can pass judgment on those they deem are breaking laws that hold their country together, eventually things will be blown out of proportions to the point that people are being killed because they broke a parking violation.
And don’t say it won’t happen because it will. Why do we know this, because what humanity seems to do constantly is have it’s biases. It is human nature to do so. Like in a dictatorship, when someone doesn’t like someone else, they frame the person and tell the police that said person is plotting a hostile take over. Now this person who really was doing nothing wrong, will end up dead. Why? Because it is a threat to Kira’s (Or whoever adopts this idea) power. Thus, we end up with a chaotic world in which rebellion and factions of rebels rise and wish to over throw. What will happen then? Will thousands then die for the sake of said Judgment? It is ludicrous to think that society built around judging left and right could possibly function properly. And this is because it is in human nature.
Kira’s ideas put to much power in the hands of one man, eventually this power would corrupt said man (and don’t argue that there is a way to test every leader, because their isn’t) and the world would plummet into chaos and turmoil.
Now, again, I am Pro Kira, I just don’t agree with the idea of the world adopting the right to cast judgment on someone, and then kill them once the decision is made. What Kira’s proposes is a dictatorship in which he is the supreme ruler who keeps order, although it is quite apparent that Kira suffers from psychological issues. Purging the world of ‘bad’ people as he would have it, is purging the world of ‘sin’ no? Thus, Kira or whoever is leading, would be pushed to the point (as most normally due in these situations) to think the world is a giant cesspool of sin, thus he would most likely initiate a world wide purge. Nations would seek out impure, or their ideas of the impure, and massacre them.
You may argue that this is all speculation, but note that this has all happened before; in fact… it has a name… its called “genocide”. The world doesn’t have a good history of learning from past mistakes, for genocide is constantly occurring somewhere, and in fact, it is happening now in places like Darfur. Nations would create their own ideas of ‘evil’, and ‘bad’ and ‘sin’ and then they would purge their countries and nations of these impurities. It has happened before, and with this proposed power that we say the world should adopt along with the ideals, billions of people would die so quickly. The world would most likely lose half of it’s entire population in a matter of months.
I will admit that this is all speculation, but I will state now that this ‘speculation’, is but a motorcade of words put together by looking at past occurances, and this situation with self-righteousness and the like has caused nations and governments to kill thousands and thousands of people by the day, so they can cleanse their part of the world of their ‘impurities.”
Make note that I am not done… I was merely getting a few of the future scenarios out of my system… 
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:21 am
You make some very interesting points Kohaku... but I think just the idea of Kira is what the people here (and indeed Kira fans all over) are thinking of. Mainly, just the idea of justice, not realistic situations and such...
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:42 am
Ziggy161 You make some very interesting points Kohaku... but I think just the idea of Kira is what the people here (and indeed Kira fans all over) are thinking of. Mainly, just the idea of justice, not realistic situations and such...   Well, from what I got from the first few posts, is that people here, do indeed like his idea of justice... BUT, the problem with his idea of justice, is that it ends with someone dying, and his ideals and his theory on how to sustain justice, depend on a central power and a central ruler. Thus, the many scenarios in which I attempted to explain. Their are several more I could suggest, one of them being a peacful, Maxist idea, but none the less, that MARXIST IDEA WOULD PROVE FUTILE as we all know, the ideas of Marxism and Communism always fail because it ignores the impurities and ad 'judgment' of the man in charge. It doesn't think to contimplate the consitency of bad people within this world, and Kira, being an eccentric person with a narrow mind and heart set on a perfect world (of which I might add is impossible) would most likely try to create a parallel to the Marxist ideas, akin the thoughts of Communism, but brough upon by the procedures of Hitler. As such, it is; once again, foolish to think that Kira's ideals and thoughts could function properly within todays soceity. Could you simply imagine the sheer horro of it all? We would have World War Three, but this time the U.S would be on the wrong side, and it would be up to the very few, least powerful, countries to fix everything, and the chances of them being successful are so low... that I dont think that a percentages could explain their chances of winning.
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:15 pm
Kohaku the King of Spades Ziggy161 You make some very interesting points Kohaku... but I think just the idea of Kira is what the people here (and indeed Kira fans all over) are thinking of. Mainly, just the idea of justice, not realistic situations and such... Well, from what I got from the first few posts, is that people here, do indeed like his idea of justice... BUT, the problem with his idea of justice, is that it ends with someone dying, and his ideals and his theory on how to sustain justice, depend on a central power and a central ruler. Thus, the many scenarios in which I attempted to explain. Their are several more I could suggest, one of them being a peacful, Maxist idea, but none the less, that MARXIST IDEA WOULD PROVE FUTILE as we all know, the ideas of Marxism and Communism always fail because it ignores the impurities and ad 'judgment' of the man in charge. It doesn't think to contimplate the consitency of bad people within this world, and Kira, being an eccentric person with a narrow mind and heart set on a perfect world (of which I might add is impossible) would most likely try to create a parallel to the Marxist ideas, akin the thoughts of Communism, but brough upon by the procedures of Hitler. As such, it is; once again, foolish to think that Kira's ideals and thoughts could function properly within todays soceity. Could you simply imagine the sheer horro of it all? We would have World War Three, but this time the U.S would be on the wrong side, and it would be up to the very few, least powerful, countries to fix everything, and the chances of them being successful are so low... that I dont think that a percentages could explain their chances of winning. Yes I understand, but what I meant is that most Kira fans know the idea of the Death Note probably wouldn't work in real life, but the ideas of the series brought up some interesting points about our society and made us think...
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:07 pm
I too understand, but what I am trying to emphasize is that Kira's ideas are not quite right. I am aware that the death note wouldn't work in this world, but I am saying many of his ideas wouldn't either, thats all.
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:12 pm
Lol. Serious stuff. o.O My young mind can not comprhend your words. burning_eyes But, all that's true. 'Sides, Light has cool hair! xd
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:37 pm
Can you talk about other things that don't necessarily have to do with Kira? Like... the thread I just created 5 minutes ago?
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:14 pm
wow that's really deep. i think i get it haha/
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:05 am
Jask X Yuki of Nightmares This guild was made for a reason, and that is to discuss Kira. But why? There are so many other characters that could be worshipped. What about L, the one who tried to save the world as it is? Or Near, or Mello? Even Light's father? Mikami Teru?
The reason that this guild was made to worship was because Kira is truly justice. He is truly a leader worth following. Look at what he has done: he started out killing criminals because he was bored. Only when he was threatened with being arrested did he truly become serious, and only for a while. Teaming up with L was only a game, that Kira ended up winning. He can control the others just by telling them who he is. He wants to create a world where there is only peace, and yet these ignorant fools stand in his way only to be killed, as is expected. Why would someone want to preserve such a world full of evil? Because its "the right thing to do"?
Kira is the only right. He is justice. He is Right. The police know that, and this is the reason they follow him. This is the reason we follow him. Once he is accepted by the whole word, the great things he does will only turn into greater things. One may think that I am obsessed, but I'm not. I only believe in what's right. What's best. Maybe one day the teachings of Kira will be passed on to later generations that will be able to put Kira out there, and turn this into reality. I truly wish kira was a reality was well if only if only my friend i truly do wish Kira was real or at least be a Kira....Kira is is like a angle from hell os somthng
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:13 am
__RaitoYagami_ImAGay__ Kira is a special person. I believe he posseses the strength many of us do not have, and as Pervert said, we may suprise our selves in that situation. Some who say that they are more than strong enough or smart enough to pull off what Kira did, or are morally OK with it, when in reality no one here would be able to do it, just like Misa said....You've got to be a special type of person to be able to kill somone and not have a hard time mentally afterwards (even though Kira sorta did, went a bit psycho at the end, but thats human, and thats what makes us love him, not that he's a god, but that he is a person like us, doing great things...) if you think about it Kira AKA Light hesitated at the begging of book 1 and he got over it that is what i would do then if you look at the fact that he is what turns out to be one of the worse nightmares in L and Mello's eyes it's worth all worth it
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:48 pm
iChayo This guild was made for a reason, and that is to discuss Kira. But why? There are so many other characters that could be worshipped. What about L, the one who tried to save the world as it is? Or Near, or Mello? Even Light's father? Mikami Teru?
The reason that this guild was made to worship was because Kira is truly justice. He is truly a leader worth following. Look at what he has done: he started out killing criminals because he was bored. Only when he was threatened with being arrested did he truly become serious, and only for a while. Teaming up with L was only a game, that Kira ended up winning. He can control the others just by telling them who he is. He wants to create a world where there is only peace, and yet these ignorant fools stand in his way only to be killed, as is expected. Why would someone want to preserve such a world full of evil? Because its "the right thing to do"?
Kira is the only right. He is justice. He is Right. The police know that, and this is the reason they follow him. This is the reason we follow him. Once he is accepted by the whole word, the great things he does will only turn into greater things. One may think that I am obsessed, but I'm not. I only believe in what's right. What's best. Maybe one day the teachings of Kira will be passed on to later generations that will be able to put Kira out there, and turn this into reality. Wow. I totally agree with you. That was so beautiful... crying
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