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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:10 am
Acidique Normal = Average *shrug* Edit: I suppose I should elaborate. There is a "normal." Whatever the general accepted way to do things is, is considered normal. When you drive a car it is generally accepted you drive it on the road and stay in the painted lines. Of course no one HAS to, and it certainly determine if it's right or correct. It simply means it is the accepted way of doing or being. Therefore if you want normality you do things the way the majority of the population has agreed to do them. IE- the average. Yes, but what exactly do you do that is just like everyone else? Sure, you drive, but some people drive to music, some don't, some people drive with one hand, others drive with none, etc. The Point I'm trying to make is that nothing has one way that everyone does it, not enough that it could truly be called normal. Yes, it's very picky, but that's what I'm trying to say here.
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:53 pm
Dusk-Hunter Acidique Normal = Average *shrug* Edit: I suppose I should elaborate. There is a "normal." Whatever the general accepted way to do things is, is considered normal. When you drive a car it is generally accepted you drive it on the road and stay in the painted lines. Of course no one HAS to, and it certainly determine if it's right or correct. It simply means it is the accepted way of doing or being. Therefore if you want normality you do things the way the majority of the population has agreed to do them. IE- the average. Yes, but what exactly do you do that is just like everyone else? Sure, you drive, but some people drive to music, some don't, some people drive with one hand, others drive with none, etc. The Point I'm trying to make is that nothing has one way that everyone does it, not enough that it could truly be called normal. Yes, it's very picky, but that's what I'm trying to say here. Yes, that's why I used the word average. The average is the way the majority do things. So, in answer to your question, if 75% of the population you are talking about drives while listening to music that would be considered normal. Therefore if I listened to music while driving I would be considered normal in that particular area. Not everyone is going to fit into the average of everything, so no one is completely normal. No one. smile
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:29 pm
Acidique Dusk-Hunter Acidique Normal = Average *shrug* Edit: I suppose I should elaborate. There is a "normal." Whatever the general accepted way to do things is, is considered normal. When you drive a car it is generally accepted you drive it on the road and stay in the painted lines. Of course no one HAS to, and it certainly determine if it's right or correct. It simply means it is the accepted way of doing or being. Therefore if you want normality you do things the way the majority of the population has agreed to do them. IE- the average. Yes, but what exactly do you do that is just like everyone else? Sure, you drive, but some people drive to music, some don't, some people drive with one hand, others drive with none, etc. The Point I'm trying to make is that nothing has one way that everyone does it, not enough that it could truly be called normal. Yes, it's very picky, but that's what I'm trying to say here. Yes, that's why I used the word average. The average is the way the majority do things. So, in answer to your question, if 75% of the population you are talking about drives while listening to music that would be considered normal. Therefore if I listened to music while driving I would be considered normal in that particular area. Not everyone is going to fit into the average of everything, so no one is completely normal. No one. smile My point exactly. When I say "no such thing as normal", I mean there is no real "normal" in our society, because we simply vary to much. And I apply the term socially. I know there are things like comparing a guy with three eyes to the rest of us, but you don't have one group of people so similar and a majority that they could be called "the norm" in society.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:54 pm
Dusk-Hunter Discuss what defines normal in our society, as well as how you try to or don't try to fit in with those around you. There is no 'normal', only the mode, mean, median and of course social control.
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:14 pm
tatterkin Dusk-Hunter Discuss what defines normal in our society, as well as how you try to or don't try to fit in with those around you. There is no 'normal', only the mode, mean, median and of course social control. Exactly. You have the middle of the two extremes, but there's not enough meeting those middle points to be called normal biggrin
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:57 am
Dusk-Hunter I understand your point, and I agree that a "perfect society" of that type is impossible without oppression. The problem is that it loses true perfection when it is forced to resort to such evil means of control. A truly perfect society would be everything you listed, but respectful of our rights to be unique, as well as not so cruel in it's means of control. However, I still think that you shouldn't base the definition of normal on how people are forced to act, but on how they act when they have the right to decide. At the same time, I respect your opinion; I'll just agree to disagree.
Agree to disagree it is then.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:51 pm
Foreign Spit Dusk-Hunter I understand your point, and I agree that a "perfect society" of that type is impossible without oppression. The problem is that it loses true perfection when it is forced to resort to such evil means of control. A truly perfect society would be everything you listed, but respectful of our rights to be unique, as well as not so cruel in it's means of control. However, I still think that you shouldn't base the definition of normal on how people are forced to act, but on how they act when they have the right to decide. At the same time, I respect your opinion; I'll just agree to disagree.
Agree to disagree it is then.Deal smile
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:47 am
What people consider normal changes with every generation.
Example: In my Grandma's time, normal was to be married around 18-21 and have 5+ children, smoking was okay, obesity was considered healthy, people listened to radio instead of TV, and you only went to a doctor when you were really, really sick.
In our time, many people wait until thier thirties to get married, have less children, know that smoking gives you cancer and is generally frowned upon, skinny is good, people watch TV and don't listen to the radio as much, and regular checkups and preventative medicine is more popular.
Granted, many of these are from changes in the technology, but even fashion styles and behavior is different.
Grandma: short bobbed hair, long skirts, strict manners, harsh discipline (corporal punishment in schools)
Now: long, straight hair, mini skirts, cussing in front of teachers without punishment.
If an average (normal?) person from my Grandma's time just dropped out of the sky and started walking around my high school, they would go home in tears and perhaps some injuries. I think that people are afraid of anything just a little unusual, and they try to stamp it out whenever possible. That is probably the biggest reason people try to be normal, to avoid conflicts with jerks.
Ah, now the second part. Do I try to be normal? Yes, but only out of nescessity. I try to follow the trends and fit in because way too many of the kids at my school are mean. They like to point out and tease people about the stupidest stuff, like where your clothes came from, how you do your hair, etc. It hurts more than anyone can imagine, unless you've experienced it, too. I save the fun, random stuff for when I am with my friends and others who won't bother me about how I act.
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Thirrin Lindenshield Crew
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:34 pm
cindang You have, stolen, my <3 [from the beginning]...
Normality is non-existent.
It's true, we differentiate so much in comparison, that there is no such thing as normal.
...it's unconditional love, right? [that's what makes it worth it] Angel Yuna-chan The true definition of normal: The setting on a cloths drier.Normal is when you feel right with yourself, your actions, and your surroundings, and are just setting there, collecting dust, doing nothing, and rotting where you sit. Life is not meant to be 'normal'. Have your little 'abnormal' quirks, it's what makes life grand. besides, normal is only comparative. What someone thinks is 'normal' might be TOTALLY wierd to someone else. So, Normal is in the eye of the beholder. whee the John Wilkes Booth We're all normal within our surroundings, taken out of that we flip flop around struggling for air like a fish out of water until we evolve and develop the necessary equipment to thrive, strive and set a new standard of the norm in that particular society. Of course there is no worldwide normal, how could there be when there's no worldwide anything, would that make everything else not exist too? Normality exists, and to say otherwise just about cancels out half of our so called achievements. You could argue that "well den u just be provin ma point that normality don't be existin". I think I understand what he's saying. When people take surveys or make statistical data, they take a large group of people, so that they can find out what MOST people do. Whatever the majority of people do is considered normal, but I agree with you that nobody in the whole is normal. Dusk-Hunter There is no 'normal', only the mode, mean, median and of course social control. Exactly what I think. I do try not to stick out too much, because I don't want negative attention. But I stick out enough, and I be myself when I'm with people I can trust. I think I'm probably anything but normal. Some people may think the things that make me weird are bad, some may think they're good or okay, but I like who I am and I'm glad we live in a country where we can express ourselves. And I think the idea of an utopia is impossible. There will always be controversy and so perfection to one person could be completely wrong to another.
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