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Is that a town record? The only way things will get better in towns if people become active, when they do the s**t that goes on will be reduced.

Ohh I'm telling that your going to have a commie party going. Dam voters they are are drunk and as stupid as ever. Just joking though, I say are the scythes on the outside gear really necessary?

Well the non-voters are easy drag there as or bribe them with something I mean they don't care, it can't be as bad as the others who use elderly people who has no idea what their doing to vote.

As for the picture it's your call. It's still interesting.

The proletarait state is to change the former ideological with the new epistemological break ideological which in this case would be communist ideology. It is to replace Bourgeoisie ideology with a communist working class one, so of course it will be surpressing the former ideology. So of course our general ideology will be supressing the former general ideology such as the Jacobins did during the French Revolution which created Nationalism.
Communism must do the same only crush nationalism with globalism and expand culture which is easier during the capitalist stage. If we allow the capitalist stage to continue the diffusion of culture and spreading anarchy of social production then the transfer would be easier.

Nationalism will bring nothing democracy will do nothing if it is nationalized no matter what. Nationalism must be switched to globalism. We must not turn reactionary and fall into nationalism which is now reactionary to radical globalism.

Oh but don't worry Tank! I'm here to take Merewyn's place now. mrgreen

Oh s**t, I feel sorry for taking this now Merewyn, he just referenced Ghost in the Shell. I know you would have loved to discuss Ghost in the Shell and it's political messages and how kickass Motoko is.

But yes regardless of the situation that will happen regardless of how much free the market is, the realization of the current system and all that it entails will form in the consciousness of the Proletariat no matter what.

Nationalism doesn't develop from such ideals that Merewyn has just expressed though. Nationalism indeed needs to be put out, however to rely on Capitalism to put these ideals out seems lazy and like an unreliable solution. Not to mention within my own views and ideas this present a problem, it brings indeed the possibility of revolution and a large and ready Proletariat within other nations (I'm assuming you speak of using Globalization to destroy Nationalism) but in the countries who are obviously dominant and slowly lessening their Proletariat, this actually brings us further and further away there.

In your plan we simply complicate matters more than I think we need to. I would like to be done of Nationalism also myself, but the primary goal of Globalization does not accomplish that, it's goal is just to further Capitalist ideals, Nationalism being downplayed is not it's goal. IN fact in some ways it doesn't. We have all seen the anger of jobs being outsourced and large amounts of factories and industrial work being moved out of the country have we not? Those were certainly not Internationalist ideals being said by those people. I would go so far as to say the only people embracing this idea and presenting this only Internationalist policy are the Bourgeoisie themselves!

So for me it just seems like a complication more than a solution (I apologize Mere if this was not exactly to your viewpoint, I can only argue this with my own opinions and things such).

Also how green card workers over a summer work has increased which in terms makes less jobs available, people say on the cape kids are lazy the fact is people wont hire them due to cheaper labor. Green cards are just another economic slavery, because any point in time they can be sent back. bush has allowed more and more into this country, why some say its ok, it just boost support for unfair treatment of citizens and there right to work and is turned down due to citizenship and the green card worker.

Mere globization is nationalism were one culture is favored over another, and I can say is over the years I have seen me town to be a quite lazy town with a lot culture mainly French, English and Native American to a town were a person dosen't even know his next door neighbor sadly. globizaion isolate people off from each other even when they are connected, knowing a increase in in violence related to isolation? We seen in last year in Pennsylvanian. I don't even know Americas culture anymore. I know it because I experienced it and its something that dates back to the foundation of this country.

While nationalism can be bad and is showing to be bad, its not entirely bad, since the driving unity behind communist or any other group a patriotic thing? While it's not like that in a full blown sense even communist can get that I think. But I agree that it is more harmful sine its about domination in all areas not just to workers of the state. And you can be patriotic and still have a brain in your head to know what is wrong and right, thats what its truly about is doing right.

Or what I said could be just me being crazy.

It will be a combination, we certainly can't make all of the reason Globalization.

To me what you describe is temporary and did in fact pass my mind at one point while I typed my previous post, or at least perhaps. Something about the fact that less industrial jobs will mean more office service jobs, something the United States considers Middle class, though some of what I heard assumes this recently laid off people can just simply educate themselves in another job and work that, which is godawful unrealistic. However despite that again I must point out it doesn't drive them exactly into our arms. This people are upset that American companies have moved out of America, or that non-Americans receive benefits. That creates nationalism.

In the countries receiving these factories and encroachment of Westerners and their society onto their native lands and culture is seen and angers many. They see they become antagonized and upset over that.

No longer is the issue one of Capitalism, no it in the minds of these people become one of National Unity and keeping National interests and purity. The best this can do for us is perhaps drive a few of them into the more Nationalistic Marxist Parties or the minority who finally see this is simply not a minority issue.

I will not say that Globalization hasn't opened up some interesting ideas created some situations. However to push it is again just making the eventual struggle harder in the long run.