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Keithing
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:49 am


Hasunuma
Ugh, I hate stereotypes. I am like the opposite of what a gay guy 'should' be. I'm rather gothic-like. What person (of importance) decided a gay guy couldn't listen to Slipknot and Marilyn Manson, wear all black, and have studded accessories?
You're telling me. Certain people find it hard to grasp that I can be Chinese and gay, let alone me listening [older] Korn and Marilyn Manson (I love "The Beautiful People"), or anything harder than pop-rock.

The only reason why people can tell is that accursed artsy/fashion stereotype. I can't help that I spent 17 hours a week in the art rooms, art geekdom requires that I dress as visually appealing as possible! Plus all a sizeable portion of my wardrobe is clothing from my sister's tomboy phase. I mean, come on, orange courduroy shirts! Who needs to go out to vintage shops when there's one in the other room? whee
PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:52 am


Keithing
Hasunuma
Ugh, I hate stereotypes. I am like the opposite of what a gay guy 'should' be. I'm rather gothic-like. What person (of importance) decided a gay guy couldn't listen to Slipknot and Marilyn Manson, wear all black, and have studded accessories?
You're telling me. Certain people find it hard to grasp that I can be Chinese and gay, let alone me listening [older] Korn and Marilyn Manson (I love "The Beautiful People"), or anything harder than pop-rock.

The only reason why people can tell is that accursed artsy/fashion stereotype. I can't help that I spent 17 hours a week in the art rooms, art geekdom requires that I dress as visually appealing as possible! xp

Man, if you lived in China your parents would be pissed xd You're only allowed 1 child in china, so if your child turns out gay you'd have noone to pass down the family name.

Nusumi


Keithing
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:58 am


Ooh, they had every intention of me continuing the family name. Damn rice farmers* always need to procreate! My eldest cousin in Hong Kong has ensured that there will be at least one male child in the next generation, so I'm home free. Plus if I was living in China, I wouldn't exist. I am the second child!

*The character for my last name is a picture of a rice farm. The stereotypes never end. xd
PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:11 am


I so wish I was the second child crying The expectations for me would drop sooo much! Of course my parents would still be like "You're asian, you can't be gay! You have to preserve your heritage and not adopt these American values!" I swear they say all sorts of things at me, and if you look at it all.. some tend to hit them right back in the face.

Damian Myrddin


pyrrhic-faith

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:14 am


I'm the 3rd child out of 4 kids XD and im the only homosexual one. As far as I know o.o;
PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:15 am


Damian Myrddin
I so wish I was the second child crying The expectations for me would drop sooo much!
You're joking, right? My sister failed to live up to their expectations, so now I also am expected to live up to the failed one and the new ones. Siblings give them something to compare you to. "Don't be like your sister, look at 's children they're rich and successful be like them!" The sad part is my sister is the one that helped me with everything from the alphabet up.

Keithing
Crew


Nusumi

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:18 am


Keithing
Damian Myrddin
I so wish I was the second child crying The expectations for me would drop sooo much!
You're joking, right? My sister failed to live up to their expectations, so now I also am expected to live up to the failed one and the new ones. It gives them something to compare you to. "Don't be like your sister, look at 's children they're rich and successful be like them!"
I know the feeling gonk My brother rarely went to school, and in his 4th year of highschool(yet still wouldn't have been his last), he dopped out. So now I'm expected to be the one to graduate ect. (even though there's not much money in the department I'm going to, alot of artists don't get what they deserve)

But we're getting off subject! 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:40 am


Pyrrhic-Faith
Vague
Marque
Ohh yeah. This is a pretty old stereotype. I don't think exists much nowadays, but it was big in the 80s. lol.

"Aids comes strictly from homosexuals."

stare

You'd be surprised how many idiots still think like that.

Yea I've heard that one before stare


Kind of ironic, considering the heterosexual population's statistically more responsible for the spread of the AIDS virus.

Overshine


Astri
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:13 am


How about the general population's idiotic notion that you can't be physically affectionate with someone without being in a romantic relationship. I'm a touchy-feely person; I'm affectionate. I like giving hugs and snuggling -- I'll even kiss my friends, usually on the shoulder (I'm short, so that's usually the most accessable) -- but it's all completely platonic.

My whole ******** school decided I was gay before I'd even given it much thought. I didn't even know that's what they thought 'til years later. All I knew at the time is everyone started treating me like I had the plague...even my mom thought I was "experimenting" with my friend Cheryl. It was ******** weird.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:03 pm


kageyume
one that i heard is that "all gay guys are supposedly wimps , and like maikun said, we wear makeup and have lips." that on really pisses me off.


Heh. If someone told that to half the gay men I know, they'd be hanging from a third-story window by their underwear. Gay men are NOT to be trifled with.

NadiaM
I think that one of the weirdest one is the "All gays are sluts" stereotype. I mean, yeah there is a history of that sort of thing with homosexuality but that doesn't mean that it's still true or that you can project the morals of another time or place onto an entire group.


Heh. I think the simple fact is that most men, given the opportunity to have as much sex as possible without commitment, would immediately become "sluts." The only difference between gay and straight men is that straight men need women to have sex. Gay men can skip through the whole "getting to know you" phase and right into the sex.

Straight men are just jealous they can't do that. God knows they would in an instant if they could.

JoVo


Keithing
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:35 pm


I had something like that thrown at me this weekend, Astri. My extended family here had a little get-together this past weekend for my aunt's birthday. We were watching a movie that had an implied gay relationship in it, and immediately everyone just stared at me. She even had the audacity to slip a comment at my youngest [male] cousin to "be careful" of me.

Then again she's a Catholic tomboy spinster, and reads faintly on the gaydar.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:39 pm


JoVo
Heh. I think the simple fact is that most men, given the opportunity to have as much sex as possible without commitment, would immediately become "sluts." The only difference between gay and straight men is that straight men need women to have sex. Gay men can skip through the whole "getting to know you" phase and right into the sex.

Straight men are just jealous they can't do that. God knows they would in an instant if they could.
erm...i have to know them and be going out with them first neutral

Arapuer


JoVo

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:41 pm


takeshi_sakami
erm...i have to know them and be going out with them first neutral


You liberal! scream
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:44 pm


JoVo
takeshi_sakami
erm...i have to know them and be going out with them first neutral


You liberal! scream
i dont quite understand wut you mean gonk

Arapuer


JoVo

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:02 pm


takeshi_sakami
JoVo
takeshi_sakami
erm...i have to know them and be going out with them first neutral


You liberal! scream
i dont quite understand wut you mean gonk


It was a joke. xp

(I'm going to have to add a disclaimer to my posts or something.)

In any case, most people would say that they'd rather have someone with whom they can share their lives. A soulmate that would satiate every desire, both physical and spiritual. A life companion that would stick with them through thick and thin until death do them part. Most would probably be extremely sincere while saying it.

But, a grand majority, it so seems, is willing to settle for a single night of passion that somehow, in someway, mimics what they hope for but feel they may never find.

That, I think, is what drives so many people to one-night stands. Why are men more amenable to this than women? Men do not grow up with the princess-fantasy. While women still hope to be swept off their feet, men tend to be discouraged that, should they find this woman, they'll be the ones who'll have to do the sweeping. Therefore, men are much more willing to abandon the hope than women (this, of course, is changing as the attitudes of women toward gender issues change) and, thus, more willing to engage in promiscuous sex.

Since straight men still require women for the equation, straight men have an obstacle in their path: women. Their promiscuity is only held back by (a) the number of women have given up the hope of seeing a knight beckon them with a glass slipper and (b) the number of women they can convince that they are, in fact, that knight holding the slipper.

Gay men have no such buffer. While there are a few gay men who have adopted the princess-fantasy, most appear to adopt the sentiments of the straight man. Fortunately, or unfortunately, for the gay man, the limited number of gay men with the princess-fantasy allow gay men to engage in as much promiscuous sex as the straight man desires, which is far less than the common straight man actually gets.

I hope this explains my position on this issue a little better. (Longest intro to a joke, EVER!)
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