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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:55 am
So, captain, you think that humans aren't going to evolve further? This isn't really an argument, it's just a clarification. I'll come with a reason for that to be wrong if that's what you think, but it'll have to wait until I've woken up more.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:52 pm
Dr. Kool A few things: One, where does it say that apes weren't made in God's image? Second, that's even an argument. I can imagine parallel between what you said, and walking into a room and saying "Hey guys, I can jump five feet in the air, end of canversation." It's possible, but not likely. And last, how can you prove that God created humans? There's not a lot of evidence. Yes, the Bible says so. You might say that the Bible isn't true, well guess wat, archeaological and linguistical evidence prove the Bible to be true.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:55 pm
Quote: So, captain, you think that humans aren't going to evolve further? This isn't really an argument, it's just a clarification. I'll come with a reason for that to be wrong if that's what you think, but it'll have to wait until I've woken up more. Well, not for millions of years at least. And plus we're really destroying survival of the fittest with all our medical advances that keep the weakest alive long enough to add to the gene pool. Maybe humans will evolve further, but if we continue on the same route, we might even devolve. Not to apes, but genetic diseases and such will increase a lot. Hopefully we will have advanced medically enough to keep up with it. Quote: Yes, the Bible says so. You might say that the Bible isn't true, well guess wat, archeaological and linguistical evidence prove the Bible to be true. That's not true. No one has proven the bible true. It has certainly been proven that events in the bible did take place, but all the miracles and things like that have actually been inherently proven untrue by the laws of physics. rofl I mean, not to say they didn't happen, but religion can't really be proven true or untrue. And on a sidenote, how would linguistical evidence prove the bible true? Could you please give me your source of this information?
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:06 pm
Captain_Theoretical Quote: So, captain, you think that humans aren't going to evolve further? This isn't really an argument, it's just a clarification. I'll come with a reason for that to be wrong if that's what you think, but it'll have to wait until I've woken up more. Well, not for millions of years at least. And plus we're really destroying survival of the fittest with all our medical advances that keep the weakest alive long enough to add to the gene pool. Maybe humans will evolve further, but if we continue on the same route, we might even devolve. Not to apes, but genetic diseases and such will increase a lot. Hopefully we will have advanced medically enough to keep up with it. Quote: Yes, the Bible says so. You might say that the Bible isn't true, well guess wat, archeaological and linguistical evidence prove the Bible to be true. That's not true. No one has proven the bible true. It has certainly been proven that events in the bible did take place, but all the miracles and things like that have actually been inherently proven untrue by the laws of physics. rofl I mean, not to say they didn't happen, but religion can't really be proven true or untrue. And on a sidenote, how would linguistical evidence prove the bible true? Could you please give me your source of this information? Do u believe that Jesus can break the law of physics when He's the one who made them in the first place? Or r u one of those fake "Christians"?
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:00 pm
Quote: Do u believe that Jesus can break the law of physics when He's the one who made them in the first place? Or r u one of those fake "Christians"? Yes, I do believe Jesus can break the laws of physics, but I'd just like to point out that Jesus also said that the two most important commandments are to love God and to love thy neighbor, and it's not loving to accuse anyone of being a 'fake Christian'.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:01 pm
Yes, TJF, please refrain from name-calling in this guild. 3nodding
And I agree with Captain about "devolving;" even now we see that certain strains of viruses are becoming more tolerant of the treatments we use to get rid of them. People are so medicated now that it's actually easier for them to get sick, because we don't let people's immune systems do what they were made for. In a sense, our bodies are becoming dependent upon these treatments because our immune systems are too weak to fight without them.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:08 pm
Captain_Theoretical Quote: Do u believe that Jesus can break the law of physics when He's the one who made them in the first place? Or r u one of those fake "Christians"? Yes, I do believe Jesus can break the laws of physics, but I'd just like to point out that Jesus also said that the two most important commandments are to love God and to love thy neighbor, and it's not loving to accuse anyone of being a 'fake Christian'. Well you're not Christian if you don't FULLY believe in Jesus and in His Word. I would just like to point that out and I wasn't name calling, I was asking a pretty common and normal question that we should all ask ourselves
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:25 pm
So Butterfly (I'm just gonna call you that for less complication) You say that you agree with the captian on devolution. This is exactly the same as evolution, just backwards. It's the animal (in this case human) body adapting to its surroundings. These are not positive changes, but changes none the less. I'm not really sure if you believe evolution or not, but this was a great point to make, and I wouldn't pass it up. Sorry if I'm annoying xd
jesusfreak, I don't really think thatits neccessary to tell you how to act. You should be old enough be this point to know how to play nice. Now say it was a perfectly normal question, which I'm having a hard time believing, it was your wroding and tone that implied that it was an insult. Really, you should know how to sound nice.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:58 pm
I don't really care if evolution is true or a literal creation is true. Either way is fine by me, and either way just shows how awesome and amazing and creative God can be. I tend to lean more towards a literal six day creation and a rest on the seventh day (as I've said before) but I'm pretty open-minded on the topic. 3nodding
And TJF, I will suggest you refrain from making such judgemental comments about others' faith, such as saying that someone isn't fully Christian. No one has any right to say who's a "full Christian" or not except for God, and I do believe you have stepped over a line in saying that Captain was a "fake Christian." As far as I can tell, she fully believes in Christ and His teachings and follows Him whole-heartedly. Just because she disagrees with you does not give you the right to downplay her relationship with Jesus.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:59 pm
Fushigi na Butterfly I don't really care if evolution is true or a literal creation is true. Either way is fine by me, and either way just shows how awesome and amazing and creative God can be. I tend to lean more towards a literal six day creation and a rest on the seventh day (as I've said before) but I'm pretty open-minded on the topic. 3nodding
And TJF, I will suggest you refrain from making such judgemental comments about others' faith, such as saying that someone isn't fully Christian. No one has any right to say who's a "full Christian" or not except for God, and I do believe you have stepped over a line in saying that Captain was a "fake Christian." As far as I can tell, she fully believes in Christ and His teachings and follows Him whole-heartedly. Just because she disagrees with you does not give you the right to downplay her relationship with Jesus. I am trying to say is that either you completley believe EVERYTHING Jesus and His Word claim or you believe NOTHING and you're not a Christian, there is NO inbetween
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:18 pm
thejesusfreak I am trying to say is that either you completley believe EVERYTHING Jesus and His Word claim or you believe NOTHING and you're not a Christian, there is NO inbetween Matthew 12:30 He who is not with me is against me... Jesus disagrees.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:49 pm
thejesusfreak Fushigi na Butterfly I don't really care if evolution is true or a literal creation is true. Either way is fine by me, and either way just shows how awesome and amazing and creative God can be. I tend to lean more towards a literal six day creation and a rest on the seventh day (as I've said before) but I'm pretty open-minded on the topic. 3nodding
And TJF, I will suggest you refrain from making such judgemental comments about others' faith, such as saying that someone isn't fully Christian. No one has any right to say who's a "full Christian" or not except for God, and I do believe you have stepped over a line in saying that Captain was a "fake Christian." As far as I can tell, she fully believes in Christ and His teachings and follows Him whole-heartedly. Just because she disagrees with you does not give you the right to downplay her relationship with Jesus. I am trying to say is that either you completley believe EVERYTHING Jesus and His Word claim or you believe NOTHING and you're not a Christian, there is NO inbetween Then say that to you it sounds like she doesn't believe in everything and ask her to clarify. Don't flat-out accuse her of not being a Christian. That's not your call to make. And she has specifically said before that she believes in all Christ and His Word say, just that some things are more literal than others. She believes creation happened, but that the way it's told in Genesis is a more condensed version that leaves out details. That doesn't mean she doesn't believe in creation and it doesn't mean she's not a Christian.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:25 pm
Isn't there a self-help forum on here or something? I'm not really sure this is the time or place to be teaching TJF how to play nice. I would add more, but ack of creativity is stopping me xp
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:38 pm
I was just addressing the problem as it was happening to prevent it from happening again, but I probably should have taken it to PMs. I think it is something that should be said to everyone though, whether or not everyone is guilty of judging others' relationships with Jesus. This way, everyone is aware that I won't tolerate (and hopefully the other crew members back me on this) any kind of judging or bashing of a person's relationship with Jesus.
At any rate, TJF, if you would like to further discuss this with me, you can feel free to PM me. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:54 pm
Just as a note, you can badger me about my relationship with Jesus all you want. I don't care. I just want you all to know that 3nodding
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