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 Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:59 pm
Dharmagirl Kai Errant But then, after thinking about it a little, I came up with a pretty good reason that ties everything together. It's kind of long-winded, though; I'll only type it out if you guys want me to.. Tell uuuussss xd I, for one, wanna hear! heart 3nodding yeah! I'd like to hear it!
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:09 pm
designergrl Dharmagirl Kai Errant But then, after thinking about it a little, I came up with a pretty good reason that ties everything together. It's kind of long-winded, though; I'll only type it out if you guys want me to.. Tell uuuussss xd I, for one, wanna hear! heart 3nodding yeah! I'd like to hear it! Oh! Me too! xd
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Aria na`Hael Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:50 pm
^_^ I appear to have found the public front of the underground Highlander fan guild. 3nodding
I am only going by what I remember of the first movie; I understand some canon was added, but I have chosen to ignore it.
And I may have thought about this more than is humanly healthy.
So what happens is, thousands of years before the story starts, some person's soul gets separated from his body and it scatters into a few scores of other people over the course of the next few millenia. Once the people get to the age that the soul was when it split off into pieces (how old did Connor look? 26? 29?), the body it resides in stays at that age. The bad guy looked a little older and Sean Connery looked like Sean Connery because they'd been around for a very long time, making them look as though they aged more than their bodies actually had. This is also why there can only be one—once there is only one, all of the poor guy's soul fragments reunite and the one remaining is a whole person. Since all the parts are united, the body can go back into the timestream and start aging again.
Personality differences would've come from various upbringings each would have faced. The villian guy probably had a tough childhood in some barbarian tribe somewhere, and when he found out he was immortal, he started being a serious jerkface. Most of them get along, however, as is evidenced by Connor's immortal buddies. The villian and the guy killed in the beginning of the movie allowed the prospect of being the last one left get to them, and it stamped out a lot of their inborn goodness.
The lightning that occurs when another immortal is killed is simply the part of the original soul that's combining with the other parts in the person that's still alive. They have to cut off the others' heads because the neck somehow acts as a seal, holding the soul fragment into the body. As the soul is trying to get together—naturally, similarly to the way an atom tries to become stable—the pieces combine violently in the form of lightning.
It could be that the soul itself is unstable, and once Connor dies it'll split off again and repeat the cycle. We may never know.
I may have had more that isn't coming to me at this moment; I'm not really sure. Let me know if I'm messing anything up or forgetting anything.
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:44 pm
Kai Errant ^_^ I appear to have found the public front of the underground Highlander fan guild. 3nodding I am only going by what I remember of the first movie; I understand some canon was added, but I have chosen to ignore it. And I may have thought about this more than is humanly healthy. So what happens is, thousands of years before the story starts, some person's soul gets separated from his body and it scatters into a few scores of other people over the course of the next few millenia. Once the people get to the age that the soul was when it split off into pieces (how old did Connor look? 26? 29?), the body it resides in stays at that age. The bad guy looked a little older and Sean Connery looked like Sean Connery because they'd been around for a very long time, making them look as though they aged more than their bodies actually had. This is also why there can only be one—once there is only one, all of the poor guy's soul fragments reunite and the one remaining is a whole person. Since all the parts are united, the body can go back into the timestream and start aging again. Personality differences would've come from various upbringings each would have faced. The villian guy probably had a tough childhood in some barbarian tribe somewhere, and when he found out he was immortal, he started being a serious jerkface. Most of them get along, however, as is evidenced by Connor's immortal buddies. The villian and the guy killed in the beginning of the movie allowed the prospect of being the last one left get to them, and it stamped out a lot of their inborn goodness. The lightning that occurs when another immortal is killed is simply the part of the original soul that's combining with the other parts in the person that's still alive. They have to cut off the others' heads because the neck somehow acts as a seal, holding the soul fragment into the body. As the soul is trying to get together—naturally, similarly to the way an atom tries to become stable—the pieces combine violently in the form of lightning. It could be that the soul itself is unstable, and once Connor dies it'll split off again and repeat the cycle. We may never know. I may have had more that isn't coming to me at this moment; I'm not really sure. Let me know if I'm messing anything up or forgetting anything. Ooooh....I like that way more than the rediculous "explanation" the second movie gave (i.e. We're all exiled aliens form another planet, who's memories have been wiped and are now forced to fight each other to the death until only one is left rolleyes ) Your theory is so much better thought out and interesting. I like it!
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Aria na`Hael Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:08 pm
I agree with Aria. THAT story is a helluva lot more compelling than the sequals were.
I'm glad we twisted your arm to "extract" that info from you xd
Thanks !
I have to wonder, though at the various people becoming stronger up until the end. If it were only ONE soul that got fragmented I would have thought that that these people would have been immortal, but weaker than normal, or deficient in spome other way, until they had been whole. Maybe they have their own soul + soul fragment? Maybe it was a Veddy veddy veddy powerful soul? It still leaves a lot of stuff unanswered..
Ohhh. I'm just picking nits now xd it's still 100 percent better than the sequals account!
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:48 pm
Dharmagirl I have to wonder, though at the various people becoming stronger up until the end. If it were only ONE soul that got fragmented I would have thought that that these people would have been immortal, but weaker than normal, or deficient in spome other way, until they had been whole. Maybe they have their own soul + soul fragment? Maybe it was a Veddy veddy veddy powerful soul? It still leaves a lot of stuff unanswered.. After you guys made me write this out, I got to thinking about it a little more. Where did this phenominon come from? What happened in the first place? Maybe, when the age of mankind was dawning (or something to that effect), there were two people—Adam and Eve or whoever. One has a soul that reproduced through birth; a piece of it would break off into the parent's baby through conception. Nothing is lost from the parent, as a father doesn't lose a piece of himself when he passes things on to his child. The soul of the other, however, reproduces through death, and when he dies, the pieces break off, floating around until it finds someone pregnant. It then displaces the bit of her soul that was going into the baby, and the baby becomes an immortal. Once it does, it leaves the mother, leaving her unaffected. Each time the soul breaks apart, there are more pieces. The first time it happened, there were only a few, and that's why they didn't overtake the life-souls. As birth takes less time than death (especially if you're immortal until you've killed off the others), the birth people quickly became more prevalent, forgetting all about the other kind. This also explains why Connor couldn't have children (I knew I was missing something!); those whose souls are based on death cannot create life until they become whole. Which really doesn't answer the question; it only adds information. Maybe souls really do split apart as they break apart. The deterioration is slow, but it is there. After 10000 or 100000000 years (as you like it), the birth-soul is substantially weaker than it once was. Only an Immortal with every part of him in him is as whole as a person should be. He'll probably live 400 years like the early people in the Bible did, and then die and then restart the cycle. I don't know if that made as much sense as it did in my head, but whatever. I really didn't think about this all that much; I just came up with the original concept and everything else kind of fell out. But I have been thinking about it after I came up with it because it all fits too well together to be The Highlander.
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:42 pm
I think they did well enough in the first movie.. but for the sequals they should have hired Kai ninja
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:24 pm
i agree with that. great job on the logic and reasoning, way better than those lazy writers
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:40 pm
Dharmagirl I think they did well enough in the first movie.. but for the sequals they should have hired Kai ninja I think so too. Too bad I was born 20 years too late.
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:11 pm
alright alright, i'll make the damn time machine already smile
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:43 pm
dragonmatt5 alright alright, i'll make the damn time machine already smile
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Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:30 pm
hmm that gives me an idea, why not start a thread about theories and philosphy and such? like discusions on weither time travel is possible or whatever hypothitical question someone tries to answer
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:22 pm
dragonmatt5 hmm that gives me an idea, why not start a thread about theories and philosphy and such? like discusions on weither time travel is possible or whatever hypothitical question someone tries to answer I was toying around with doing just that. I've a little philosophy so I might have a tad to contribute. You could always start a thead, DMat.
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