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 Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:52 pm
Dr Yuya What's tough about the question is that though there are plenty of plot twists and changes that occur throught the series that I didn't care for, most of the episodes where they occured are usually very good despite the fact that the series was slowly going to crap. However, the one I pick out among all others that nailed the coffin in for Willow ever being straight again, and wasn't terribly good as well, would be New Moon Rising. Damn liberals had there way with this show the last couple of seasons, largely due to the gay agenda. I *liked* New Moon Rising. And what's wrong with Willow never being straight again?
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:53 pm
bloodlustvampire i really hated the one where willow and the demon fell i love on the computer, it was funny to see zander punch steel tho I liked that one, too sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:23 am
Bryn McCardell I *liked* New Moon Rising. And what's wrong with Willow never being straight again? What was wrong with it wasn't that it was a bad story or completely ridiculous, I really don't feel it was. Hell, it was even foreshadowed that it would happen. What bothered me about it was how all the fans now would be offended if anything ever happened to change their relationship or make Willow straight again. When Tara died, there was a huge whine from alot of fans saying how they killed her off because she was homosexual and then made Willow evil because she was homosexual, souring what was one of the most shocking and emotionally moving moment on TV. If it'd been Oz instead, they moment would have been pure gold without any interest groups bringing it down. And even then, I don't really care what interest groups do as long as they don't change the writers plans. But I feel they did change them, giving us Kennedy to appease them/ not letting Willow maybe go back to Xander instead.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:50 am
Dr Yuya Bryn McCardell I *liked* New Moon Rising. And what's wrong with Willow never being straight again? What was wrong with it wasn't that it was a bad story or completely ridiculous, I really don't feel it was. Hell, it was even foreshadowed that it would happen. What bothered me about it was how all the fans now would be offended if anything ever happened to change their relationship or make Willow straight again. When Tara died, there was a huge whine from alot of fans saying how they killed her off because she was homosexual and then made Willow evil because she was homosexual, souring what was one of the most shocking and emotionally moving moment on TV. If it'd been Oz instead, they moment would have been pure gold without any interest groups bringing it down. And even then, I don't really care what interest groups do as long as they don't change the writers plans. But I feel they did change them, giving us Kennedy to appease them/ not letting Willow maybe go back to Xander instead. Or maybe you could (gasp) ignore what the interest groups are saying. I think Willow going straight after Tara died would've...it just wouldn't have worked. And since you do seem to pay attention to the interest groups, yeah, they would've LOVED Willow going back to straight stare I didn't like Kennedy, no, but I don't think that the writers purposely changed things and brought her in. Willow needed someone to get her out of the nervous wreck she was. Kennedy did that.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:59 am
Bryn McCardell Or maybe you could (gasp) ignore what the interest groups are saying. I think Willow going straight after Tara died would've...it just wouldn't have worked. And since you do seem to pay attention to the interest groups, yeah, they would've LOVED Willow going back to straight stare I didn't like Kennedy, no, but I don't think that the writers purposely changed things and brought her in. Willow needed someone to get her out of the nervous wreck she was. Kennedy did that. That's just the thing though, they wouldn't LET themselves be ignored, which is what pissed me off so righteously. I'm fine with them expressing their veiws in Washington and places like that, but when their influence obviously alters my favorite show to bring us gems like Kennedy, it makes me mad.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:05 pm
Dr Yuya Bryn McCardell Or maybe you could (gasp) ignore what the interest groups are saying. I think Willow going straight after Tara died would've...it just wouldn't have worked. And since you do seem to pay attention to the interest groups, yeah, they would've LOVED Willow going back to straight stare I didn't like Kennedy, no, but I don't think that the writers purposely changed things and brought her in. Willow needed someone to get her out of the nervous wreck she was. Kennedy did that. That's just the thing though, they wouldn't LET themselves be ignored, which is what pissed me off so righteously. I'm fine with them expressing their veiws in Washington and places like that, but when their influence obviously alters my favorite show to bring us gems like Kennedy, it makes me mad. I don't think that these interest groups are the ones that brought Kennedy onto the show.. Like it was mentioned before, a character was needed to bring Willow back into sunshine, I have a feeling Kennedy would've joined us even if these fanatics didn't start jumping everywhere.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:06 pm
Dr Yuya Bryn McCardell Or maybe you could (gasp) ignore what the interest groups are saying. I think Willow going straight after Tara died would've...it just wouldn't have worked. And since you do seem to pay attention to the interest groups, yeah, they would've LOVED Willow going back to straight stare I didn't like Kennedy, no, but I don't think that the writers purposely changed things and brought her in. Willow needed someone to get her out of the nervous wreck she was. Kennedy did that. That's just the thing though, they wouldn't LET themselves be ignored, which is what pissed me off so righteously. I'm fine with them expressing their veiws in Washington and places like that, but when their influence obviously alters my favorite show to bring us gems like Kennedy, it makes me mad. That much I agree with stare Guess what, interest groups? IT'S A SHOW! It's cool, it's great, it's an amazing show, but it does not affect your life so much that you have to freak out when you think it does something "wrong", even though you're probably just paranoid.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:36 pm
Well, in my opinion, Willow becoming lesbian after she had clearly liked men for at least 18 years is just absurd. Bi, maybe, but not a complete turn around to gay. She was in love with Oz... People don't just change like that. Meh, but that's my opinion. That's one of the changes I hated most.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:40 pm
Bryoni Well, in my opinion, Willow becoming lesbian after she had clearly liked men for at least 18 years is just absurd. Bi, maybe, but not a complete turn around to gay. She was in love with Oz... People don't just change like that. Meh, but that's my opinion. That's one of the changes I hated most. EXACTLY. And what about the whole her and Xander thing? It just dead ended even though it could have finally came back in season seven.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:48 pm
Dr Yuya Bryoni Well, in my opinion, Willow becoming lesbian after she had clearly liked men for at least 18 years is just absurd. Bi, maybe, but not a complete turn around to gay. She was in love with Oz... People don't just change like that. Meh, but that's my opinion. That's one of the changes I hated most. EXACTLY. And what about the whole her and Xander thing? It just dead ended even though it could have finally came back in season seven. Well, I don't so much mind the whole Xander thing going away, as she seemed to get over him as soon as she met Oz... but I know what you mean. Those crazy writers!
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:25 pm
Bryoni Well, in my opinion, Willow becoming lesbian after she had clearly liked men for at least 18 years is just absurd. Bi, maybe, but not a complete turn around to gay. She was in love with Oz... People don't just change like that. Meh, but that's my opinion. That's one of the changes I hated most. It does happen, actually. She was in love with Oz, yes. Him leaving and Tara entering just triggered her realizing that she was a lesbian. Just because she dated a guy for awhile doesn't mean she can't turn to just girls. It. Does. Happen.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:34 pm
Bryoni Well, I don't so much mind the whole Xander thing going away, as she seemed to get over him as soon as she met Oz... but I know what you mean. Those crazy writers! as soon as she met Oz? She almost cheated on Oz w/ Xander for a year!!!
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:48 pm
Dr Yuya Bryoni Well, I don't so much mind the whole Xander thing going away, as she seemed to get over him as soon as she met Oz... but I know what you mean. Those crazy writers! as soon as she met Oz? She almost cheated on Oz w/ Xander for a year!!! Besides the fact that Oz and Willow knew each other for a bit before they actually dated...
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:30 pm
Bryn McCardell Bryoni Well, in my opinion, Willow becoming lesbian after she had clearly liked men for at least 18 years is just absurd. Bi, maybe, but not a complete turn around to gay. She was in love with Oz... People don't just change like that. Meh, but that's my opinion. That's one of the changes I hated most. It does happen, actually. She was in love with Oz, yes. Him leaving and Tara entering just triggered her realizing that she was a lesbian. Just because she dated a guy for awhile doesn't mean she can't turn to just girls. It. Does. Happen. *shrugs* I really don't believe it does, but that's just my opinion. I don't want to get into an angry debate about this with you because I like you and we each have our own opinions, so.... Have a cookie! *gives you a cookie* whee
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:10 pm
Bryoni Bryn McCardell Bryoni Well, in my opinion, Willow becoming lesbian after she had clearly liked men for at least 18 years is just absurd. Bi, maybe, but not a complete turn around to gay. She was in love with Oz... People don't just change like that. Meh, but that's my opinion. That's one of the changes I hated most. It does happen, actually. She was in love with Oz, yes. Him leaving and Tara entering just triggered her realizing that she was a lesbian. Just because she dated a guy for awhile doesn't mean she can't turn to just girls. It. Does. Happen. *shrugs* I really don't believe it does, but that's just my opinion. I don't want to get into an angry debate about this with you because I like you and we each have our own opinions, so.... Have a cookie! *gives you a cookie* whee *is distracted by cookie* yay! Yeah, you're cool whee I think it can. I don't know any girls/guys that it has happened to, but I've heard of it happening 3nodding
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