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Thistleluff

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:13 am


a~chan
Thistle-chan
Well, part of it, also, is just... the environment can only support so much. There are only so many animals, so much ground that's farmable... once we reach "carrying capacity," even if you KNOW how to farm or hunt... there won't be any place left to do it, or animals left to eat. Thus ensues mass starvation. The sad part is, there's really nothing we can do to prevent it that doesn't suck... like limiting families to one child only. XP Oh well. Eventually the poo is gonna hit the fan, and I sincerely hope that by then, I'll be long gone. =P

Makes me not want to have children.

China already does that. You're only allowed to have one child per family. The problem with this is, since China is very male oriented, female infants are "disposed" of in order to give the family a chance to have a son.


I know. And the fact that that sucks was my point. :]
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:24 am


Urbane
It's population control, and it really, really sucks for some people. But that's the way things are.

You can't cure the world. You can't reverse millions or years of damaged caused by living creatures. And forget about fixing what humans have done...

Oy.
Not to mention Earth itself is a fluke... the only reason we're here is because a comet hit the planet and kicked off a cooling reaction. Global Warming is simply the planet returning to normal, whether or not humans are helping it.

That'll also help kill the overpopulation of the planet, because if we don't learn to adapt to the heat or leave the planet, we'll die off (just so I stay marginally on-topic).

Sorcette


Thistleluff

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:15 pm


Sorce
Not to mention Earth itself is a fluke... the only reason we're here is because a comet hit the planet and kicked off a cooling reaction. Global Warming is simply the planet returning to normal, whether or not humans are helping it.


Actually... the Earth has gone through many various periods of warming and cooling... caused by different things... for example, a massive volcanic eruption before the time of the dinosaurs caused about 90% of life as it was at the time to go extinct because of the CO2 that was released, (a greenhouse gas) thus warming the planet. There's also methane deposits (another more powerful greenhouse gas) that were released from the ocean which warmed the planet even further. (as you can see from the article linked there are other possibilities for the cause of this, but it's certain that the Earth was warmed, and stuff died) Then gradually over time more oxygen was produced and the planet gradually cooled down...

At one point too there was "snowball earth" or so scientists believe, where the entire earth cooled and the surface was frozen completely for a long time.

Currently we're on our way out of an ice age... so naturally temperatures are gradually rising, but that does not mean that it won't peak and start cooling again like it has again and again in Earth history. ^^;
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:29 pm


I thought that we are still in an ice age? Because I was told that there are short periods in which the earth will warm up during an ice age.

I have no idea, I'm all for nature just doing its thing, and I think that we need to stop ******** with it. xd

Urbane
Crew


obarmhartig

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:52 pm


Rayinte
The problem with that, though, is then we'd be passing by people like Stephen Hawking. I mean, physically he's useless but he's still got a very good mind, and instead of sulking with it, he's using that mind for the good of mankind.

I'd much rather cast aside the dead weight--people on welfare, for example. The ones who won't support themselves, the ones who keep squirting out babies to get more and more checks from the government. neutral

I think that if any woman has more than one baby on the government's payroll, then immediately after that birth she should have her tubes tied, willing or not. Uncle Sam goes, "Sorry ma'am, but we're already feeding one of your brats and now we'll be feeding two. You've obviously lacking the kind of responsibility it takes to be a good mother/provider for your family."

That's an excellent point, yet the same could be said for welfare cases as well.

I agree that popping out kids to stay on welfare is a pretty lame way to live. I think it's lazy and definitely irresponsible for someone to abuse the system in such a manner. However, the welfare system itself does not make it easy for those who actually want to improve their life and eventually provide for their family on their own. The government finds it easier to just dole out money and food stamps than to invest the time and energy into making successful programs to help those on welfare get the education, training and day care they need in order to obtain the jobs that could get them off welfare altogether. I've seen it happen first hand and it's very discouraging to say the least. :/

Another thing to consider is not to assume that someone who is already on welfare and has another child has done it just to simply stay on welfare. Accidents happen, even with the use of birth control, heck, that's the only reason my nephew is here. He certainly wasn't planned. Both my sister and her boyfriend were using protection and that sperm still got through.

*Shrugs* I guess there are exceptions to every idea, well intentioned or not. Perhaps HP is right, nature will find a way to take care of it better than we could. xD

Thistle-chan ~ Point well taken then. whee heart
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:55 pm


Urbane
I thought that we are still in an ice age? Because I was told that there are short periods in which the earth will warm up during an ice age.

I have no idea, I'm all for nature just doing its thing, and I think that we need to stop ******** with it. xd


I dunno. But there's all these people saying the poles will supposedly reverse in 2012, throwing us into an ice age, and killing people.

Lady Pyre
Crew

Eloquent Elder


obarmhartig

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:58 pm


Lady Pyre
Urbane
I thought that we are still in an ice age? Because I was told that there are short periods in which the earth will warm up during an ice age.

I have no idea, I'm all for nature just doing its thing, and I think that we need to stop ******** with it. xd


No. But the poles will supposedly reverse in 2012, throwing us into an ice age, and killing people.

I kind of like the thought of another ice age. Hell, I've always wanted to live in Alaska anyway. =B
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:55 pm


a~chan
Lady Pyre
Urbane
I thought that we are still in an ice age? Because I was told that there are short periods in which the earth will warm up during an ice age.

I have no idea, I'm all for nature just doing its thing, and I think that we need to stop ******** with it. xd


No. But the poles will supposedly reverse in 2012, throwing us into an ice age, and killing people.

I kind of like the thought of another ice age. Hell, I've always wanted to live in Alaska anyway. =B


If there's ice everywhere you can't grow food nor can the ground grow food for animals and everything dies. -_-;

Urbane: Yes we're still in the ice age, but we're past the coldest part... and it's warming up again... hence 'coming out...' Like if you're on your way to 50, and you're 48 years old... you're still in your 40's, but you're on your way to 50... yeah...

Thistleluff


Thistleluff

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:56 pm


a~chan
Thistle-chan ~ Point well taken then. whee heart


BWA HA! xd

Sorry... I just ******** love Earth history! *_* And Geology. And it is good.
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