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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:02 am
It only took me three tries to find a guy that 1.) I actualy found attractive, 2.) Was a great person, AND 3.) Has the same views on parenthood that I do. And before someone asks, yes he's strait, and yes we are a couple. heart Have been for over 3 years now.
For the record, WE don't believe marriage would be the awnser for us either.
That's another of my pet peeves... people keep asking when they'll be getting invitations in the mail. stressed
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:05 am
Azer Fireangel It only took me three tries to find a guy that 1.) I actualy found attractive, 2.) Was a great person, AND 3.) Has the same views on parenthood that I do. And before someone asks, yes he's strait, and yes we are a couple. heart Have been for over 3 years now. For the record, WE don't believe marriage would be the awnser for us either. That's another of my pet peeves... people keep asking when they'll be getting invitations in the mail. stressed Yeah, the reasons Ayasugii and I are getting married are mostly for practical reasons, not because we buy into everything attacted to it. 1. legal benifits (taxes, visitation rights in the hospital, etc) 2. Maybe her mother will treat us better (rant about that below) 3. ... 4. PROFIT! We had previously decided not to get married even though we were pretty sure we would be spending our lives together (15 years of friendship and 7 months living together without any real problems is a good sign of that). We had partially decided that out of silent protest to the anti-gay marrage laws that have been passed in many states, including our own and partially because we don't like how marrage is often seen as a "holy bond" and s**t like that. Once we got to looking at the benifits though, we decided that it would be a good idea (especially with the help we could get that is not offered to non-married people. We are both currently unemployed and living off my parent's good will until we can get jobs which is hard for both of us for different reasons.) Anyway, rant time: [rant]Around early-december we are invited to spend christmas with her family. We make our plans around this and prepare. Late christmas ******** eve (shortly before we were to head over there) we get a call from her dad saying "I've just been informed that Cole is actually NOT invited to christmas dinner." He then goes on to say that I could come over for a while that night but I couldn't stay the night and I couldn't come with them to her grandparent's place for dinner. We knew that this was either the doing of her mother or her grandmother. We talk it over for a while and she decided to go so that she doesn't cause any more damage to her already frayed relationship with her mother. So she goes and I spend christmas alone and myserable. When she came back, she told me that the first thing her grandmother said to her was "What, no Cole?" It was all her mother. It's not that I even like christmas. We were previously planning on doing absolutly nothing because we both dislike christmas. It's just that I get lonely very easily. There's also the fact that she stabbed me in the ******** back. Last time I tried talking to her she mostly ignored me, but when she would respond it would be a grunt (well, not a grunt, but equally offensive and I don't really know what to call it). We haven't even been able to tell her that we are engaged and we are getting married on March 15th. sweatdrop [/rant]
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:08 am
Aw.. that sucks.. That's right up there with some of the comments his Mom made. His parents get on my nerves alot of the time, but the rest of the familly is cool.. I've been to every familly event I could get off for, and his Grandma got me a Christmas gift. heart She's a very cool person.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:12 pm
Hi I'm Scott. I am friends with Calitar and Ayasugii. I never really like the idea of having kids, but it never seem to be a big deal for me. I thought most guys felt the same way and just had kids because they get women that want them. I am starting to see that many men love the scripted life. Go to collage, get a job, find a woman, get married and have kids. eek *Scary*
For me I do not want children. I hope to find a woman that feels the same way. Having said that I do not know if I would do what phi one zero did and leave a dream girl because she wanted kids. I hope I never get put into that spot.
The world has too many people in it anyway. So why make more? And even if I really wanted to spread my genes (and I don't) I would go donate sperm. Being a father is hard. Masturbating is easy.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:50 pm
For some reason, I don't think my mom's going to treat us better when she finds out. In fact, she'll probably overreact and be all cold-shoulder again for a while because she's too young to have a married daughter. rolleyes
However, I do think she'll be a lot harder pressed to do the exclusion thing like last Christmas. Everybody else in my family - well, on Dad's side at least, haven't talked to anybody on Mom's side other than Mom for a long while now - is fine with our relationship, and happy for us. It's just... Mom.
stare I keep wondering what in the flying ******** that woman is really thinking. Meh, well, probably best not to dwell on it right now. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:18 pm
I've never been particularly good at introductions, but here goes. My name's Justin, I'm 22 years old, and the last thing I would ever want is a child. The reasons for this are manifold:
I had horrible parents of my own, so any chance of me knowing how to properly rais a child is automatically severely hampered. I'm a writer, so I need time to concentrate on my work; I can't very well do that if I'm running around changing diapers, picking up my offspring from practice, or dealing with the hundreds of other issues that arise because of children. And then there's the fact that I just don't like kids.
The classic example I give is comparing them to SUVs. The average child is, in my experience, loud, annoying, dirty, and requires far too much time, money, and effort to keep it in working condition. And you can never be sure they won't just suddenly flip over and break something. If other people want them, that's fine so long as I don't have to deal with them. But I would never get one of my own.
Some people have called me heartless for this; others have called me stupid, ignorant, and narrow-minded. But I know how I view children, and that isn't going to change. I value my time, money, and personal life far too much to throw them away by having kids.
I was planning on getting a vasectomy soon, until I found out I'd been gravely misinformed about the price. (It turned out to cost about twice as much as I'd been previously informed. confused ) But I'm probably getting long-winded here.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:29 pm
Soulwreckage I was planning on getting a vasectomy soon, until I found out I'd been gravely misinformed about the price. (It turned out to cost about twice as much as I'd been previously informed. confused ) But I'm probably getting long-winded here. Well, you could use my method of getting a price reduction on a vasectomy: Have the doctor forget to show up for the appointment. $500 off, baby. biggrin Unfortunately, it's kind of hard to plan, and even harder to arrange.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:35 pm
phi one zero Soulwreckage I was planning on getting a vasectomy soon, until I found out I'd been gravely misinformed about the price. (It turned out to cost about twice as much as I'd been previously informed. confused ) But I'm probably getting long-winded here. Well, you could use my method of getting a price reduction on a vasectomy: Have the doctor forget to show up for the appointment. $500 off, baby. biggrin Unfortunately, it's kind of hard to plan, and even harder to arrange. Haha, I suppose it's worth a shot if I get desperate at least. xp
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:11 pm
Hello, my name's Rachel, and I'm 14, soon to be 15. I'm intensely geeky, and I love to read sci-fi, fantasy, the classics, and manga. My favorite manga-ka are Clamp. I've never wanted kids. I never want to get married. From what I've seen of both, they just aren't for me. I was born in Pennsylvania, and soon after my parents and I moved cross-country to San Diego. My sister was born there on December 9, 1992. I grew up in San Diego until I was 7, and that was when my life crumbled, as it were. My dad, who is a retired naval petty officer, found work up where I live now, in the Mojave desert. I left all my friends, and was hard-put to find new ones. Meanwhile, I could tell my parents' marriage was crumbling. The summer of my thirteenth year, my mother fell in love with our neighbor. This was sort of expected on my part... but my dad became abusive to all of us. Mostly verbal, but he often hit my little sister. He asked for a divorce, and life was going from bad to worse. I'm an A or B student, but I was seriously slipping. All the emotional pain I was in took most of my focus off of school, and I found myself to be my parents' pillar. My mother's boyfriend went to jail for driving under the influence, so my mother became more and more reliant on me. The February of the year I would turn 14, my mother killed herself. I still feel like it was my fault, simply because I knew something was wrong, and I did nothing.
I've become rather numb, wanting to kill myself quite often, and I always forget to take my Zoloft. Heh. I haven't gone to my counselor in weeks. I think the only thing that's keeping me alive is Gaia and my friends here. My real-life friends ditched me, hard. So, yeah, story of my life. I think you can tell why I don't want to be married, but as for kids... I don't know. I've babysat. The money was scanty at best, and the kids were okay. I just feel repulsed when I think of some kids out there... cruel to their parents, tiring, never taking care of themselves. I just don't find the idea of them very pleasing.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:26 pm
Wow, I feel really sorry for you... If you ever need some help, you can ask pretty much anyone here, everyone seems very nice, and most people are willing to talk. I've been through pretty traumatic experiences also, but not as bad as that. All the advice I can give you is that everything does get better in time.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:30 pm
Thank you. And I do agree that things can get better over time, but they haven't yet. Oh, well.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:43 pm
I go by Sensedog when online. My real name is Aaron. I am 21 and have no plans to ever have children of my own, and I am happy with that thought and content with being childfree for the rest of my life if that is to be in my future.
I had seen the banners for this guild around Gaia and then wondered why I wasn't a member myself, at which point I asked to join. I am a crew member for the pro-choice guild as well, and have been with that guild since the it's creation.
One of the main reasons that I am content with never having children of my own is that I grew-up with three younger brothers whom I often had to care for when my father was away at work, since my mother had...well, serious issues. She no longer lives with us as a result. It wasn't easy
So anyway, I am glad to be here.
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:34 am
It's nice to see all the new faces around here... biggrin
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:47 pm
Sensedog I go by Sensedog when online. My real name is Aaron. I am 21 and have no plans to ever have children of my own, and I am happy with that thought and content with being childfree for the rest of my life if that is to be in my future. I had seen the banners for this guild around Gaia and then wondered why I wasn't a member myself, at which point I asked to join. I am a crew member for the pro-choice guild as well, and have been with that guild since the it's creation. One of the main reasons that I am content with never having children of my own is that I grew-up with three younger brothers whom I often had to care for when my father was away at work, since my mother had...well, serious issues. She no longer lives with us as a result. It wasn't easy So anyway, I am glad to be here. *shy and giggly* you look pretty... whee
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:34 pm
*Stands up like she's in a support group*
Hi, I'm--
Well, I hate my name--with a passion--so just call me Mithril. I'm 14, and I'm turning 15 on May 14th.
I have very few real friends, and my best friends, who know the most about me... ...Are people I've never met.
I am self-centered, and occasionaly racist (Even though my mom is black; but I look white as can be) I have very little respect for certain kinds of people. I am considered by some to be mildly psychotic. I have a very cruel, somewhat sophisticated, and occasionaly crude sense of humor. I sometimes make no sense. I have a very low tolerance for stupid people. I am cruel and insensitive, along with unlikeable. (Or so I've been told.) --But just because I hide my feelings; Doesn't mean they're not there.
I have been "childless" for as long as I can remember. If I ever had kids, I would probably kill them.
I'm a gamer. I'm often told that I look like a guy because of my hair- So I got it straightened.
I'm a huge Zombie buff; I'm currently writing a book on a Zombie outbreak. The link is in my sig.
Thanks for inviting me here.
Oh, and- I'm in a somehwat crappy mood right now, so please don't try to cheer me up.
Or make me smile.
I don't know...
...I just don't smile anymore.
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