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Intermundia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:48 am


FrostDemon13
Lets ask him. Rob, are you
A) A hermaphrodite
B) A guy
C) A girl
D) A zombie that will eat my brians out and use my bones as canes and clubs
E) We shouldn't ask who you really are because it is none of our business


This is a difficult question to answer.

A.) No
B.) Yes
C.) No
D.) Yes
E.) It's None of your business.
F.) Yes I am a hot, sexually questionable, German male dancer.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:51 am


Comrade Rob
FrostDemon13
Lets ask him. Rob, are you
A) A hermaphrodite
B) A guy
C) A girl
D) A zombie that will eat my brians out and use my bones as canes and clubs
E) We shouldn't ask who you really are because it is none of our business


This is a difficult question to answer.

A.) No
B.) Yes
C.) No
D.) Yes
E.) It's None of your business.
F.) Yes I am a hot, sexually questionable, German male dancer.

On the account of F.) ... balls deep.

Zed Millar

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Intermundia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:59 am


Zed Millar
Comrade Rob
FrostDemon13
Lets ask him. Rob, are you
A) A hermaphrodite
B) A guy
C) A girl
D) A zombie that will eat my brians out and use my bones as canes and clubs
E) We shouldn't ask who you really are because it is none of our business


This is a difficult question to answer.

A.) No
B.) Yes
C.) No
D.) Yes
E.) It's None of your business.
F.) Yes I am a hot, sexually questionable, German male dancer.

On the account of F.) ... balls deep.


Theres a pic of me in the IRL thread in the community subforum ;]
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:08 am


Sri Iskander
Gracchvs Robespierre

Comrade Kotka is definitely the member with the best head for politics


I'll argue this one with you. I happen to do pretty well politically. wink
You're pretty good despite your 'anarchism.'

'Tis a shame you have to drape yourself in it though, and can't just come out as a lazy, impatient commie...

And Curse... You be quiet. You don't count in any discussions like this.

Le Pere Duchesne
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Beloved Prophet


The Curse

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:45 am


Gracchia Saint-Justine
Sri Iskander
Gracchvs Robespierre

Comrade Kotka is definitely the member with the best head for politics


I'll argue this one with you. I happen to do pretty well politically. wink
You're pretty good despite your 'anarchism.'

'Tis a shame you have to drape yourself in it though, and can't just come out as a lazy, impatient commie...

And Curse... You be quiet. You don't count in any discussions like this.


:O
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:47 am


Gracchia Saint-Justine
Sri Iskander
Gracchvs Robespierre

Comrade Kotka is definitely the member with the best head for politics


I'll argue this one with you. I happen to do pretty well politically. wink
You're pretty good despite your 'anarchism.'

'Tis a shame you have to drape yourself in it though, and can't just come out as a lazy, impatient commie...

And Curse... You be quiet. You don't count in any discussions like this.


Pssh. There's no room for laziness in my system (granted, I, personally, enjoy my leisure time greatly...). It's just as labour intensive as any other system out there.

The difference between you commie types, and me, is that economics aren't overly important to me. I focus on change and equality through democracy at the ballot box, with the idea that democracy and equality will spread from there. Y'all focus on democracy and equality in production/economics, and change spreading from there.

For you, this is a class struggle. For me, classes don't matter a single bit.

Dis Domnu


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:17 am


I can no longer be...
Comrade Rob
Zed Millar
Comrade Rob
FrostDemon13
Lets ask him. Rob, are you
A) A hermaphrodite
B) A guy
C) A girl
D) A zombie that will eat my brians out and use my bones as canes and clubs
E) We shouldn't ask who you really are because it is none of our business


This is a difficult question to answer.

A.) No
B.) Yes
C.) No
D.) Yes
E.) It's None of your business.
F.) Yes I am a hot, sexually questionable, German male dancer.

On the account of F.) ... balls deep.


Theres a pic of me in the IRL thread in the community subforum ;]

Rob, I am totally your official fan girl.
(I'm actually fairly masculine, but it's funnier to say fan girl)
Just have to hijack a plane, and...
A cog in the American death machine....
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:51 am


Sri Iskander
Gracchia Saint-Justine
Sri Iskander
Gracchvs Robespierre

Comrade Kotka is definitely the member with the best head for politics


I'll argue this one with you. I happen to do pretty well politically. wink
You're pretty good despite your 'anarchism.'

'Tis a shame you have to drape yourself in it though, and can't just come out as a lazy, impatient commie...

And Curse... You be quiet. You don't count in any discussions like this.


Pssh. There's no room for laziness in my system (granted, I, personally, enjoy my leisure time greatly...). It's just as labour intensive as any other system out there.

The difference between you commie types, and me, is that economics aren't overly important to me. I focus on change and equality through democracy at the ballot box, with the idea that democracy and equality will spread from there. Y'all focus on democracy and equality in production/economics, and change spreading from there.

For you, this is a class struggle. For me, classes don't matter a single bit.


Yeah appeal to anyone who want's to hop on the socialist bandwagon. There was a guy like that. Founding father of Anarchism, name began with a 'P', oh darn, the name escapes me....

Well anyway that sort of mentality probably explains for the level of failure in the Anarchist movement. Classes matter. Workers generate wealth, without the sale of their labour capitalism can't happen, likewise, they are exploited and have to sell that labour because if they don't they will die. Its all about the bourgeoisie and proletariat. Everyone else falls in between, their historical roles play little to know importance. Why bother?

Intermundia


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:07 am


I can no longer be...
A cog in the American death machine....
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:54 am


Gracchia Saint-Justine
FrostDemon13
I don't care that much about Rob's gender. Btw, I'm not really a guy named Jozeph Yinsen. My real name is Natasha. I just thought it would be cool if there was another girl masquerading as a guy to overcome the bullshit stereotype that girls aren't as smart in politics as guys.

Er... you want to show that girls aren't as good in politics by pretending to be a bloke?

Comrade Kotka is definitely the member with the best head for politics and I am pretty sure she is in fact a she. Hell, in a year or so when shegets a bit more knowledge of the actual marxist texts and her 'instincts' are given the back up of actual marxism... I expect she'll be the best person in the guild.

That, and you know, we're commies. We don't have as many anti-woman hang-ups as the rest of society. And I emphasised 'as many' because we all do have some of those ideas. We may not realise it, but we do, because we come from a society that has them. Only with the development of a truly free society will the next generations be able to get rid of all this s**t.

And that's what we're fighting for.

AND I'm thinking of making my main go female as well. Just because I prefer female avis.

No, I don't want to prove that girls aren't as good as guys in politics. I want to prove that girls can be just as good as guys in political know how.

FrostDemon13


Dis Domnu

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:45 pm


Comrade Rob
Sri Iskander
Gracchia Saint-Justine
Sri Iskander
Gracchvs Robespierre

Comrade Kotka is definitely the member with the best head for politics


I'll argue this one with you. I happen to do pretty well politically. wink
You're pretty good despite your 'anarchism.'

'Tis a shame you have to drape yourself in it though, and can't just come out as a lazy, impatient commie...

And Curse... You be quiet. You don't count in any discussions like this.


Pssh. There's no room for laziness in my system (granted, I, personally, enjoy my leisure time greatly...). It's just as labour intensive as any other system out there.

The difference between you commie types, and me, is that economics aren't overly important to me. I focus on change and equality through democracy at the ballot box, with the idea that democracy and equality will spread from there. Y'all focus on democracy and equality in production/economics, and change spreading from there.

For you, this is a class struggle. For me, classes don't matter a single bit.


Yeah appeal to anyone who want's to hop on the socialist bandwagon. There was a guy like that. Founding father of Anarchism, name began with a 'P', oh darn, the name escapes me....

Well anyway that sort of mentality probably explains for the level of failure in the Anarchist movement. Classes matter. Workers generate wealth, without the sale of their labour capitalism can't happen, likewise, they are exploited and have to sell that labour because if they don't they will die. Its all about the bourgeoisie and proletariat. Everyone else falls in between, their historical roles play little to know importance. Why bother?


Ah, so sorry. I totally forgot that Communism has been such a rousing success that the world is already saved.

Don't gimme that s**t Rob. You're smarter than that.

Class isn't important to me. That's all there is to it. I'm friends with poor people. I am poor myself. I'm friends with not-poor people, too. I'm friends with people who are between being poor and being rich. I have friends who own business and employ labour. I have friends who own their own businesses and employ no labour what so ever.

If the people (rich or poor) are willing to fight to abolish classes (both social and economic) and fight for equality, then I'm willing to fight beside them. I'm not going to piss on my allies just because they happen to have too much money, or own a business.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:54 pm


1st rule of the interwebs....

Everyone is male until proven otherwise.....

SoViEtTaNkT-72


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:00 pm


SoViEtTaNkT-72
1st rule of the interwebs....

Everyone is male until proven otherwise.....
I'm glad you have joined us.

Domnu: When I said 'lazy' I was referring to your dismissal of theory.

Rob: Bloke's name was Proudhon. He was an anti-woman and anti-semetic bigot, who was actually more of an equalitarian libertarian that an anarchist.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:01 pm


FrostDemon13
Gracchia Saint-Justine
FrostDemon13
I don't care that much about Rob's gender. Btw, I'm not really a guy named Jozeph Yinsen. My real name is Natasha. I just thought it would be cool if there was another girl masquerading as a guy to overcome the bullshit stereotype that girls aren't as smart in politics as guys.

Er... you want to show that girls aren't as good in politics by pretending to be a bloke?

Comrade Kotka is definitely the member with the best head for politics and I am pretty sure she is in fact a she. Hell, in a year or so when shegets a bit more knowledge of the actual marxist texts and her 'instincts' are given the back up of actual marxism... I expect she'll be the best person in the guild.

That, and you know, we're commies. We don't have as many anti-woman hang-ups as the rest of society. And I emphasised 'as many' because we all do have some of those ideas. We may not realise it, but we do, because we come from a society that has them. Only with the development of a truly free society will the next generations be able to get rid of all this s**t.

And that's what we're fighting for.

AND I'm thinking of making my main go female as well. Just because I prefer female avis.

No, I don't want to prove that girls aren't as good as guys in politics. I want to prove that girls can be just as good as guys in political know how.

Sorry, typo.
I meant to say:
"You want to prove women can be as good as men by pretending to be a man?"

Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet


Dis Domnu

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:13 pm


Gracchia Saint-Justine


Domnu: When I said 'lazy' I was referring to your dismissal of theory.


Eh. That works for me, I guess. I've read some theory (mostly cappie theory, and some of the more modern anarchist writings), but I prefer to generate my own. I've got notebooks filled with my own theories. razz
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