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sota32

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:06 pm


he was good to belletrix for he didnt die from the unbreakeble promise
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:59 am


I dont think that snape really could prove that he's good. no one is going to bleave him unless he personaly makes sure that the dark lord is killed. and that would be untill after the fact. Unless the order had somthing to do with all of this then there's nothing that snape can do.

MathGirl2012


billiejoeblowjob101

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:26 pm


torture him with an unforgivable curse and maybe he might say. ^^;; that or veritaserum.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:48 pm


What if killing Dumbledore was not only a Snape-Dumbledore plan but an Order of the Phoenix plan? Snape makes an unbreakable vow, knows Draco's weakness and that either one of them might die, tells the order.

I think Dumbledore would sacrafice his life for the safety of a student, even a Malfoy and potential Death Eater. Regardless, there's much more to his death than we know...

Note: I only read the 6th book once and a while ago, please feel free to correct any mistakes as I'm rereading it.

yarrow


sylphiana

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:37 am


yarrow
What if killing Dumbledore was not only a Snape-Dumbledore plan but an Order of the Phoenix plan? Snape makes an unbreakable vow, knows Draco's weakness and that either one of them might die, tells the order.

I think Dumbledore would sacrafice his life for the safety of a student, even a Malfoy and potential Death Eater. Regardless, there's much more to his death than we know...

Note: I only read the 6th book once and a while ago, please feel free to correct any mistakes as I'm rereading it.


I don't believe this was an Order plan (not the full order at any rate) because some of the members' reactions were too real to be faked. Besides, it's far too risky to let every single member in the order know, there might be a spy, or some of them may not be clever/powerful enough to not let the information out if they are tortured or what not.

I do believe Dumbledore planned it though (whether he planned every detail right down to the exact minute or not I would know). Points pretty much same as everyone here who agrees.

How he kept on telling Harry about how he should be sacrificed if needed, since he isn't as useful or powerful.

How he didn't allow Snape the DADA position for such a long time, and then suddenly gives it to him, even when he knows of the one-year curse. (Did he decide on this after Snape figured out what he just Vowed to do?)

He trusts Snape. So Dumbledore does make mistakes, but I don't believe he would trust Snape without a very good reason.

And when you compare how he reacted when Draco was going to kill him and when Snape was going to kill him. For Draco, he was suffering (from that potion), but he didn't seem too worried or anything. He even kind of encouraged Draco. Whereas once Snape arrived, he actually pleaded with him, like there was something he desperately wanted Snape to go through with (kill him perhaps?)

Sorry for giving such unclear points, I haven't read the book in quite a while and don't have the book with me right at this moment. sweatdrop

Of course, I root for Snape, and without the book now, my brain probably conviniently forgot all evidence pointing towards the Snape-is-bad theory.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:19 pm


sylphiana

I don't believe this was an Order plan (not the full order at any rate) because some of the members' reactions were too real to be faked. Besides, it's far too risky to let every single member in the order know, there might be a spy, or some of them may not be clever/powerful enough to not let the information out if they are tortured or what not.

...

Sorry for giving such unclear points, I haven't read the book in quite a while and don't have the book with me right at this moment. sweatdrop

Of course, I root for Snape, and without the book now, my brain probably conviniently forgot all evidence pointing towards the Snape-is-bad theory.


No, that makes a lot of sense. You've definitely read it more recently than me whee I was just proposing it as an interesting possibility.

yarrow


JewelWoods

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:05 pm


ok see he can't prove he's good because he's EVIL!!!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:54 am


im not sure if anyone said this yet, but if he IS good, then right after he made the vow, he wouldve told dumbledore that he had to in order to keep his cover, and Dumbledore wouldve known Snape had to kill him. What i am saying is, that Dumbledore would've known before hand, and left some kind of evidence.

KarenA3391


KarenA3391

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:56 am


I'm just saying *IF* he's good... not sure what i belive... well, i think that he is either playing both sides, OR on his own side or there is another side out there. one with the same opinions as Voldemort, but don't want to use violence and murder to solve everything. or some other side like that.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:01 pm


snape's twisted. he works for himself...whichever side that is. i also don't think he's evili honestly dont think he would have helped harry if he was evil--remember how much he hated harry's dad and godfather--no, if he were truly evil, Harry'd be dead.

miniunfortunado

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