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 Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:36 am
You know what, it's DB true, but DB is nothing but a prequel to DBZ and the characters are the same.
They completely butchered what Goku is by making the movie.
I wonder what the creator of the DB manga has to say about it.
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:38 pm
Eh, true...but I guess he wanted to give it a spin of his own. In that, I want to go see it with a mindset that I'm watching a movie of a different genre and not a butchered up DB.
As for the creator? Pretty much is rolling in his grave...if he's dead that is...
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:38 pm
FreeArsenal You know what, it's DB true, but DB is nothing but a prequel to DBZ and the characters are the same. They completely butchered what Goku is by making the movie. I wonder what the creator of the DB manga has to say about it. If you honestly feel this way, then you must really dislike the creaters of the DBZ anime for making the Buu sagas...not to mention the people that made DBGT. I mean, they did get the guys approval...but it still wasn't apart of his original storyline. Meh...now I'm forgetting to do the counters... p33
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:09 pm
Jarc_The_Mighty FreeArsenal You know what, it's DB true, but DB is nothing but a prequel to DBZ and the characters are the same. They completely butchered what Goku is by making the movie. I wonder what the creator of the DB manga has to say about it. If you honestly feel this way, then you must really dislike the creaters of the DBZ anime for making the Buu sagas...not to mention the people that made DBGT. I mean, they did get the guys approval...but it still wasn't apart of his original storyline. Meh...now I'm forgetting to do the counters... p33 the buus sagas were rather cool and ok, now...GT??? i get ofended by people that put dragon ball, before saying GT, lets be fair it was pretty bad and even in the last chapters were all the action was it was still not the same felling as seeing goku going Super saiayan 3 and fighting buu P31
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:02 pm
Mauricios Jarc_The_Mighty FreeArsenal You know what, it's DB true, but DB is nothing but a prequel to DBZ and the characters are the same. They completely butchered what Goku is by making the movie. I wonder what the creator of the DB manga has to say about it. If you honestly feel this way, then you must really dislike the creaters of the DBZ anime for making the Buu sagas...not to mention the people that made DBGT. I mean, they did get the guys approval...but it still wasn't apart of his original storyline. Meh...now I'm forgetting to do the counters... p33 the buus sagas were rather cool and ok, now...GT??? i get ofended by people that put dragon ball, before saying GT, lets be fair it was pretty bad and even in the last chapters were all the action was it was still not the same felling as seeing goku going Super saiayan 3 and fighting buu P31 Meh, I kind of liked GT. Say what you will but it was a continuation of the story. They were different writers, so they did their best and you can't condem them for it. Though you can for whoever came up with DBAF...stupid concept... Anyways, the man who came up with the DB manga was guiding the whole thing up to the Cell saga since it was his creation. The writers decided that they wanted to continue to Buu, which wasn't in his original plan, but he allowed it. Sames goes to the guys who made GT...just anime writers. You want something authentic, read the manga! p34
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:30 pm
Jarc_The_Mighty Mauricios Jarc_The_Mighty FreeArsenal You know what, it's DB true, but DB is nothing but a prequel to DBZ and the characters are the same. They completely butchered what Goku is by making the movie. I wonder what the creator of the DB manga has to say about it. If you honestly feel this way, then you must really dislike the creaters of the DBZ anime for making the Buu sagas...not to mention the people that made DBGT. I mean, they did get the guys approval...but it still wasn't apart of his original storyline. Meh...now I'm forgetting to do the counters... p33 the buus sagas were rather cool and ok, now...GT??? i get ofended by people that put dragon ball, before saying GT, lets be fair it was pretty bad and even in the last chapters were all the action was it was still not the same felling as seeing goku going Super saiayan 3 and fighting buu P31 Meh, I kind of liked GT. Say what you will but it was a continuation of the story. They were different writers, so they did their best and you can't condem them for it. Though you can for whoever came up with DBAF...stupid concept... Anyways, the man who came up with the DB manga was guiding the whole thing up to the Cell saga since it was his creation. The writers decided that they wanted to continue to Buu, which wasn't in his original plan, but he allowed it. Sames goes to the guys who made GT...just anime writers. You want something authentic, read the manga! p34 we dont get mangas here....its one of the things one has to put up whit for living in a third world country....we dont get anime or manga, and i refuse to read mangas through my monitor...it comes in a book for a reason!!! P40
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:19 pm
Mauricios Jarc_The_Mighty Mauricios Jarc_The_Mighty FreeArsenal You know what, it's DB true, but DB is nothing but a prequel to DBZ and the characters are the same. They completely butchered what Goku is by making the movie. I wonder what the creator of the DB manga has to say about it. If you honestly feel this way, then you must really dislike the creaters of the DBZ anime for making the Buu sagas...not to mention the people that made DBGT. I mean, they did get the guys approval...but it still wasn't apart of his original storyline. Meh...now I'm forgetting to do the counters... p33 the buus sagas were rather cool and ok, now...GT??? i get ofended by people that put dragon ball, before saying GT, lets be fair it was pretty bad and even in the last chapters were all the action was it was still not the same felling as seeing goku going Super saiayan 3 and fighting buu P31 Meh, I kind of liked GT. Say what you will but it was a continuation of the story. They were different writers, so they did their best and you can't condem them for it. Though you can for whoever came up with DBAF...stupid concept... Anyways, the man who came up with the DB manga was guiding the whole thing up to the Cell saga since it was his creation. The writers decided that they wanted to continue to Buu, which wasn't in his original plan, but he allowed it. Sames goes to the guys who made GT...just anime writers. You want something authentic, read the manga! p34 we dont get mangas here....its one of the things one has to put up whit for living in a third world country....we dont get anime or manga, and i refuse to read mangas through my monitor...it comes in a book for a reason!!! P40 Forgive me, I ended that last post as more of a note for anyone else who was reading. I didn't mean to offend you (if I did), because mainly I didn't know you didn't get mangas... And I would be right there with you on saying no to reading them over the web. My only other comment is to special order them, but it's a story you've already watched on the tv so it would kind of be pointless. That and it's 46 books long...so it would cost a bit of money too... p41
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:54 pm
Jarc_The_Mighty Mauricios Jarc_The_Mighty FreeArsenal Don't even start with the DBZ movies, if it wasn't in the MANGA it wasn't CANON... though that's only DBZ. Speaking of which, the new DBZ live action movie is gonna suck! Tue...but they were still good. Anyways, there is no DBZ live action movie. If you actually paid attention to the story line you'd realize it's a Dragon Ball live action movie. It's just all the idiots who have never seen that series thinks it's DBZ because they've never heard of DB. Oh, and the fact that it was originally going to be a DBZ movie, but it was easier to make a movie off of DB since you can make those story lines more realistic. goku is in highschool....and bulma doesnt have blue hair....they ******** the story line Yeah, but they can't do everything that anime can. It's not like they can higher some 10 year old and make him look like Goku and still make the movie look realistic. They're trying to make this look somewhat believeable. True, it's DB and they can't, but that's not stopping them from trying all they can. Plus, it's live action, so it doesn't have to be the same as the anime.  Yes, it does. Otherwise, it fails. By the way, I heard (I refuse to watch the movie) they included a black guy, that was human! And Piccolo had The Force! 80 *gasp* Jarc_The_Mighty Eh, true...but I guess he wanted to give it a spin of his own. In that, I want to go see it with a mindset that I'm watching a movie of a different genre and not a butchered up DB. As for the creator? Pretty much is rolling in his grave...if he's dead that is... p6 Jarc_The_Mighty Forgive me, I ended that last post as more of a note for anyone else who was reading. I didn't mean to offend you (if I did), because mainly I didn't know you didn't get mangas... And I would be right there with you on saying no to reading them over the web. My only other comment is to special order them, but it's a story you've already watched on the tv so it would kind of be pointless. That and it's 46 books long...so it would cost a bit of money too... p41
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:27 pm
Okay, I know I've told like 20 different stories to the history of DBZ...BUUUUT I'm pretty sure I have it all now. The original creator wanted to make some story that was just plain out there and he went through DB. The reason he named its followup DBZ was because it was going to be an addition. Z to symbolize the end and the difference because of the introduction to what Saiyans were.
Anyways, he wanted to end it all with Goku becoming the Legendary Super Saiyan and defeating Freiza, thus ending his dark rule. But in the process of doing so, Goku stranded himself on the dying Namek and ended up becoming a martyr. The fans weren't pleased with this, and edged him on to continue the story. The only place he could go was what was going on on Earth since the Namekians were still there and Vegeta was roaming the planet. But before he could get anywhere with the story, he died. So his sisters picked up the story where he left off and brought Goku back. They continued it with Trunks, the Androids, Cell, and finally ended it all with Buu. I forget when the tv series came into being, but they followed the story of the manga. They also asked the writer when he was alive to make the special "Bardok: Father of Goku" and later on they got with his sisters to make "The Future of Trunks". All the other movies they did were just ideas they wanted to spin off. DBGT was created from a different group who asked permission to do it. Unfortunately, they ******** the story line all up (ie SSJ Gohan when he had given up all ability to go SSJ to gain the power he needed to defeat Super Buu). And DBAF was named for the fact that it was an April Fools joke.
I'm pretty sure that's what it all comes down to. It's 90% accurate. I'm not even sure if the creator is even dead... If he isn't, then his sisters edged him on to bring Goku back and go on with those ideas. Point being, I'm more accurate than I was before...so until one of us meets the creator, this is the closest I will ever be to the truth!
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:23 pm
Frieza was supposed to be the end.
But the popularity was too high.
So Cell was supposed to be the last villain.
again... to much popularity.
Therefore, the Buu Saga arrived, a saga that lasted years and years.
Now he could end it.
He wanted to end it at Frieza, in a sense to put it in a point where a super saiyan was legendary and pure.
Ending it at cell would have shown the power of gohan.
Ending it at Buu... seriously... super saiyan 1, 2, and then 3? How many transformations? Still, it was pretty awesome because in the end, they were more powerful than even the gods.
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:27 pm
FreeArsenal Frieza was supposed to be the end. But the popularity was too high. So Cell was supposed to be the last villain. again... to much popularity. Therefore, the Buu Saga arrived, a saga that lasted years and years. Now he could end it. He wanted to end it at Frieza, in a sense to put it in a point where a super saiyan was legendary and pure. Ending it at cell would have shown the power of gohan. Ending it at Buu... seriously... super saiyan 1, 2, and then 3? How many transformations? Still, it was pretty awesome because in the end, they were more powerful than even the gods. There we go...I heard something of his sisters, but I don't care. Like I know anyways. But, I enjoy how he did Frieza because of the sence that he ended it how he wanted. With Cell, I believe he was trying to make it out that Gohan was the actual Legendary Super Saiyan. that there was a Super Saiyan form that anyone could achieve, but only Gohan could do it in a way that perfected it like it was supposed to be. Buu was interesting...and SSJ3 was awesome... As for GT, it was all fanbased, so there is not SSJ4. But it was an interesting concept. If they hadn't screwed up the story line, it would have been a believable part of the story.
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:35 pm
I honestly felt GT was completely unwarranted. First off, the form didn't really look more powerful. Super Saiyan 1 had the hair change and yellow glow, 2nd stage had the lightening effect, and then third stage caused him to look like a wild man.
SSJ4, where SSJ3's existence already caused a rocking between the natural and supernatural worlds, just seems completely unfathomable. I mean, an SSJ was already more than powerful enough to conquer the Universe and destroy planets, an SSJ2 could destroy Solar Systems and Galaxies, and the SSJ3 was powerful enough to destroy the Universe... so where exactly does that fit SSJ4?
Just so you know, Majin Buu was killed by the spirit bomb of the entire Earth which included Mystic Gohan who was more powerful than SSJ3 Goku at the time.
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:03 am
FreeArsenal I honestly felt GT was completely unwarranted. First off, the form didn't really look more powerful. Super Saiyan 1 had the hair change and yellow glow, 2nd stage had the lightening effect, and then third stage caused him to look like a wild man. SSJ4, where SSJ3's existence already caused a rocking between the natural and supernatural worlds, just seems completely unfathomable. I mean, an SSJ was already more than powerful enough to conquer the Universe and destroy planets, an SSJ2 could destroy Solar Systems and Galaxies, and the SSJ3 was powerful enough to destroy the Universe... so where exactly does that fit SSJ4? Just so you know, Majin Buu was killed by the spirit bomb of the entire Earth which included Mystic Gohan who was more powerful than SSJ3 Goku at the time. I'm not sure about the whole Mystic thing. I'll agree it's far more powerful than SSJ2, but is it really more powerful than SSJ3? I mean, it trumped Gotenks easily, but he's just a kid. Plus, you forgot the fact that SSJ has two or three bang groups that still sling down and SSJ2 only have one. Plus, if you pay attention their hair also gets longer. Not just standing up more, but also growing somewhat. I would like to know how much they have to go through to get SSJ3. Because the first is just an extreme emotional situation. The second is far enough to completely break them (Gohan was so pissed he wanted to torture Cell and he didn't care about anything else). SSJ3, they never went in to. Goku just showed Buu, then Gotenks just showed Piccolo...
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:14 pm
Let's put it this way... Gohan got so strong that going super saiyan was no longer in his ability. It wouldn't have made him more powerful to transform, and would have just been a waste of energy.
Gohan was able to dominate Super Buu, who was more powerful than Majin Buu. He could probably have beaten Kid Buu if he weren't dead.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:55 pm
Okay, I thought things through and realized the truth in it all. SSJ3 Goku was more powerful than fat buu, but didn't want to destroy him. He still had trouble with buu, but still could have destroyed him. Fat Buu had ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE against Grey Buu, who ended up absorbing him and becoming Super Buu. That's where Gohan came in and completely mopped the floor with Super Buu. Hell, he had a more easier time with Super Buu than Grey did with Fat. So yeah, Gohan was more powerful than Goku in the end.
Oh, and Gohan wasn't dead. Super Buu absorbed him and rendered him unconcious. Kid Buu did kill him when he blew up the planet, but everyone was still unconcious and was brought back with the Earth. Gohan never got a chance to fight Kid Buu, but that form was just barely more powerful than Super Buu, so it would have ended the same way...just more of an actual challenge.
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