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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:29 pm
Deceptress Yes. I have the fantastic ability that every single typo I make either makes what I said seem either funny or highly inappropriate. I was just trying to find a little humor in a normally very sensitive subject, please forgive me for taking a chance and trying to be funny; it will not happen in the future.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:57 am
Haha no worries. I took no offence. I never do. It is quite alright. Where would we be if we couldnt poke fun at ourselves and our own mishaps? biggrin
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:12 am
loopylupe other then trying to improve my writing how can I get more reviews for my stories on ff.net because I don't get as many reviews as other and I would just like some suggestions you know. How do I go about getting more reviews on my stories. Well first, you might look at your writing- because if you post something full of errors it tends to make people leave before finishing if it is too hard to read, thus leaving you with no reviews. Second, if you fandom is popular- it might just not be getting enough time in the first few pages so give it more time- you have to wait for the viewers to find it. That being said- keep working on it and keep your chapters that you write. Time them for the updates. A Friday night or Saturday morning might be better- every or every other week. Third, you can't control the readers- some will take the time to leave a comment and others won't. Take a look around the fandom and find some people who seem to review a lot and write stories. Go to their profiles and if you find something interesting- read it and leave a review. Chances are, they might do the same to you- and if not, the more you review stories in the same fandom the more people who read that fandom will see your name and they might get curious and check you out. and Fourth, for me, I have noticed that for about every 65-100 views you should except 1-5 reviews. Or- i'm just in a really odd fandom that does that to me and practically everyone else who writes in it. (as I have never checked with authors of other fandoms on this, I wouldn't know if it is your case) Hope that helps.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:55 am
One thing I myself have noticed throughout my ff.net career. Little kids review more. I use that term loosely. I know I myself am still considered a kid by most of the others in this guild, but I am talking 10-12 year olds.
When I was 12 and started posting. Each time I would update I would get 7-10 reviews within the first few hours of posting. This is because my earlier chapters were directed more to that age group and appealed to them. (Looking back now they are pretty well written but admittedly LAME)
Now whenever I post, which is fewer and fewer as my life gets busier, I am lucky to get any reviews, save for my loyal followers, who have also started to get busy and stop reviewing.
So what I am trying to say. If you want a lot of reviews. Write to the younger set of readers in your fandom. If, however, you want to build a simple fanbase on your own and let the reviews pile up as your story gets larger. Continue on your chosen path.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:04 pm
Deceptress One thing I myself have noticed throughout my ff.net career. Little kids review more. I use that term loosely. I know I myself am still considered a kid by most of the others in this guild, but I am talking 10-12 year olds. When I was 12 and started posting. Each time I would update I would get 7-10 reviews within the first few hours of posting. This is because my earlier chapters were directed more to that age group and appealed to them. (Looking back now they are pretty well written but admittedly LAME) Now whenever I post, which is fewer and fewer as my life gets busier, I am lucky to get any reviews, save for my loyal followers, who have also started to get busy and stop reviewing. So what I am trying to say. If you want a lot of reviews. Write to the younger set of readers in your fandom. If, however, you want to build a simple fanbase on your own and let the reviews pile up as your story gets larger. Continue on your chosen path. That also depends on what kind of response you are looking for. By writing toward the younger groups, the actual feedback could suffer. I do not mean to look down upon younger readers, but at least in my own experiences they tend to leave more...hyperactive reviews; true, there are some who stand out as much more intelligent than many of ff.nets trolls. But I feel that point is still valid; write toward a less mature demographic, get less mature feedback. While I am glad you took no offense to my attempt at humor, my response to it still stands. I have become quite jaded over time, and now often take things at face value; I shall rephrain from trying to add 'humor' to future threads. And if you believe that, I have soem lumiferious Įžther to sell you. Go planet Zebeth.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:49 am
Yeah I was going to get at that but I figured it would be obvious. You want a lot of reviews write to the younger set. However, know that they arent going to be very intelligent or helpful. I cant tell you how many one word reviews I got in the beginning. 'Good." Like an ogre wrote it or something.
On he other note. Dont do that. I took no offense from the beginning. My typo was laughable, as are most of the ones I make due to my luck. You see humor, feel free to point it out. Just hope I dont get there first to poke innocent fun at it smile
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:15 pm
It is by no means anything that has been said here, but there are still some deep wounds I am trying to heal due to be being 'funny'. Personally, unless your style leans toward a younger fandom it feels like you are either demeaing your true intelligence or trying to cater to the whims of a few by changing how you write.
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:52 pm
My biggest problem leans to how I write. I write how I think. I often discribe what is scene and done and sometimes use passive tense. It isn't incorrect to use it the way I do, but it does tend to throw off some readers. It isn't something I feel I have to change for the story to be good. I always reread my stories and edit as I go through them to write more, if something is off and doesn't read smoothly I'll change it, but I have no problem with the tense jumps because some passive tense just happens in a natural way of speaking/writing. But then, that is a something I consider now that I'm aware of it when I look at the views to reviews ratio. Not sure if I'm the only one who does this so I'm putting the idea out there.
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:16 pm
Shiguya Well, what worked for me in a small way was giving out a few reviews of my own. Sometimes all it takes is spending a few minutes to comment on someone else's work to get them interested in your own. Mind you, that's not always going to happen, but every once in a while one kind act can spark another. Truth be told, ff.net is really a popularity contest; between the broken record player plots that one group likes, tasteful to gag me with a fork pairings, terrible writing that attracts swarms of stupidity, and other such cliques it is a difficult task indeed to be noticed there. Yes, I am bias on that point due to some very negative experienced, but I maintain that my point is valid. Sometimes a work that you think is great is overlooked by many due to a less than catchy summary or not including certain buzz words that attract the general user to give it a try. I would also like to ask a question in return. Are you looking for reviews as a means of criticism or just to 'keep up' with the other spotlighted authors? I mean no offense by this question, more of a general curiosity getting the best of me again. Sorry I have been away for a while. Yeah most of the time i would like criticisim and suggestions. The suggestions most of all though. I usually know a basis of my stories I like to see what others think I should do next and that helps me figure out how i'm going to do my next chapter and how I'm going to word it. If anyone want to go read my stories just click on my member profile and the click the link to ff.net.
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:57 pm
Ah, I wasn't sure before but thank you for clearing that up. Sadly....ff.net, unless your writing falls under the attention of some more intelligent readers most of us are doomed to deal with the average praise and begging for more. It is nice to see that at least here the desire for constructive criticism to writing in progress is appreciated.
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:38 pm
yeah I would greatly appreciate critisisim as it helps alot with writing
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:37 am
Umi Pryde My biggest problem leans to how I write. I write how I think. I often discribe what is scene and done and sometimes use passive tense. It isn't incorrect to use it the way I do, but it does tend to throw off some readers. It isn't something I feel I have to change for the story to be good. I have a friend who writes like that (not for ffn or those sites. Mostly blogs.) It can be a very engaging style if you listen to what the author is saying. I'm sometimes bad about using passive voice, but a lot of times, when I do, it is because it sounds better in the fiction or it fits with the voice I'm writing with. Umi Pryde I always reread my stories and edit as I go through them to write more, if something is off and doesn't read smoothly I'll change it, but I have no problem with the tense jumps because some passive tense just happens in a natural way of speaking/writing. I write all of my stories (save for the occasional random one-shot) on yellow legal pads. ^^ [yellow paper is just so...inspiring to me somehow]that way I know I go through it at least three times. Once when I try to remember the last thing I wrote (one of these days, I'm going to hook up my scanner and scan one of these pages. I write notes in the margins and cross out words and make every all messy. its fantastic], once when I type it, and then when I edit it myself. And that's also what I got a beta for. 3nodding She's very good at what she does, she just is busy and hasn't got the best memory (Stormie if you read this don't be angry. I love you to death really). So when I get my documents back, not only have I had someone else's eyes on it to check, it prompts me to print it and check it myself [I have bad eyes so staring at the computer to attempt to edit is sometimes tiring]. Umi Pryde But then, that is a something I consider now that I'm aware of it when I look at the views to reviews ratio. Not sure if I'm the only one who does this so I'm putting the idea out there. Aha. Yes, Umi, I do it as well. I actually have printouts of the stat sheet dating back to late 2005/ early 2006 when they opened that option to the general members. I'm not a huge fan of stats and statistics, but I love looking down through these lists and such. Its interesting to see, for me at least, that even my oldest story (which was posted before the stat page was upgraded) is still getting hits (my fourth top story in number of hits, actually). I also like watching my one-shots. Off topic for a moment, Umi, did you get your pretty 'writing is in my blood' icon? loopylupe other then trying to improve my writing how can I get more reviews for my stories on ff.net because I don't get as many reviews as other and I would just like some suggestions you know. How do I go about getting more reviews on my stories. There's not really any way you can force the number of reviews you get. As was mentioned by a few others, depending on your fandom, the crap piles in over anything that might be readable. I don't even look around the archive for my fandom anymore. I hate where its gone. Umi had a good point about review/hit counting. I average between four and eight reviews per chapter (depending on the story) and between eight and twelve reviews per one-shot. And most of these people are the same ones. A following is a little different, if that's what you want. I would say I have about five people I can almost always count on to review to something I've written. I would work more for something like this. Become friends with your reviewers and such and they tend to come around again or you can get chatting by email and such. At least three of my really good online friends were made that way. ^^ But the best thing I can say is don't get impatient with it. When that happens you get the people who are pigheaded and say they won't update until they get X number of reviews. Reviews will come in time as your general writing skill grows and such. ^^ You can never stop improving.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:19 am
Anilates: yes I did get the Icon, thank you ^_^
I write my stories in journals first- sometimes I can sit and just type a chapter, but that is very unusual for me. I like writing with pen and papper. It drives a few of my real life friends crazy though, I have some original works that they have read parts of and really want the rest. I have journal in about every space I possiable can, both bound and normal spiral notebooks, but I don't always type the whole story up.
I have a few people who review my stories that I do the same for them. They don't read ALL of mine and I don't read ALL of theirs, just the stuff that grabs my attention. It is nice, I agree, because I can always look forward to their reviews.
on another off topic note: I hate my computer. I have a program that is suppose to help me with my dyslexic spelling errors- but the whole "scene" when it should be "seen" is just so wrong. I looked through the log and once again it self corrected without asking me first. stressed sweatdrop
I don't get why anyone would set a limit of reviews before the next update myself, but I guess if people are more concerned about getting them that they might do that. I wouldn't think it would work though, personally if I ever saw that I think I would just not comment.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:34 pm
I always wonder why people ask for "good reviews". If they don't want critical or helpful feedback, then why, why ask for anything? Why even post a fic?
I see a lot of the "great story, post the next chapter up soon!" reviews and they bug me when that is ALL they say. Sure say that but then tell them that in the third paragaraph they are missing a "the". Be helpful - if you notice something is wrong or strange when you read it, let the author know. I hate stories with 20 + reviews and I end up being the first person to tell them they have errors. Yes, I review errors per chapter and yes the comments can be very long - but I would hope that the authors take them and read them because I'm trying to help.
How is "Wow, great story. loved it. Update soon!" going to help anyone? Sure it makes you smile once, but do you as a writer actually feel better about your writing improvements or are we all just feeding the ego monsters inside us now?
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