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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:39 pm
CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Think of who your talking about. People like congress are payed by company's and they give them money to run for public office. also note cooperate welfare is suppose to be used to prompt jobs, but instead is used to outsource.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:47 pm
This is why you have to research who you're supporting before you vote for them to see if they have corporate sponsers. If they don't than vote for them. That's the only way we're going to change things right now. More people have to get active and involved in their democratic process in their country's. And what's more important to a politician? Keeping their power and their seat unless they're going to retire. Steven Hawkings CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Think of who your talking about. People like congress are payed by company's and they give them money to run for public office. also note cooperate welfare is suppose to be used to prompt jobs, but instead is used to outsource.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:58 pm
CrowNotAngelGRL This is why you have to research who you're supporting before you vote for them to see if they have corporate sponsers. If they don't than vote for them. That's the only way we're going to change things right now. More people have to get active and involved in their democratic process in their country's. And what's more important to a politician? Keeping their power and their seat unless they're going to retire. Steven Hawkings CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Think of who your talking about. People like congress are payed by company's and they give them money to run for public office. also note cooperate welfare is suppose to be used to prompt jobs, but instead is used to outsource. People are to cought up in work most Americans work two to three jobs. Those who do, are dogs to them. People really don't think or care, but they do complain. And the rest allow the other to win due to the fact they don't vote.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:23 pm
Too true. And too many people rely on the corporate owned media that doesn't tell them the truth. However it's up to the people to do the research before they vote. If I can take the time to do it than anybody can. Steven Hawkings CrowNotAngelGRL This is why you have to research who you're supporting before you vote for them to see if they have corporate sponsers. If they don't than vote for them. That's the only way we're going to change things right now. More people have to get active and involved in their democratic process in their country's. And what's more important to a politician? Keeping their power and their seat unless they're going to retire. Steven Hawkings CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Think of who your talking about. People like congress are payed by company's and they give them money to run for public office. also note cooperate welfare is suppose to be used to prompt jobs, but instead is used to outsource. People are to cought up in work most Americans work two to three jobs. Those who do, are dogs to them. People really don't think or care, but they do complain. And the rest allow the other to win due to the fact they don't vote.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:47 pm
CrowNotAngelGRL Too true. And too many people rely on the corporate owned media that doesn't tell them the truth. However it's up to the people to do the research before they vote. If I can take the time to do it than anybody can. Steven Hawkings CrowNotAngelGRL This is why you have to research who you're supporting before you vote for them to see if they have corporate sponsers. If they don't than vote for them. That's the only way we're going to change things right now. More people have to get active and involved in their democratic process in their country's. And what's more important to a politician? Keeping their power and their seat unless they're going to retire. Steven Hawkings CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Think of who your talking about. People like congress are payed by company's and they give them money to run for public office. also note cooperate welfare is suppose to be used to prompt jobs, but instead is used to outsource. People are to cought up in work most Americans work two to three jobs. Those who do, are dogs to them. People really don't think or care, but they do complain. And the rest allow the other to win due to the fact they don't vote. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ8CWxXZKx8I warn you that the PCB thing is due to coal burning not the plants. Most of this is 50 years old some cases.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:40 pm
CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Tarrifs... thats what they are called and if Nixon didnt have watergate they would probably be existing today...
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:15 pm
Oh I got ya. I didn't know they were called a particular name. Probably existing? Aren't corporations today sending jobs over seas to avoid paying the minimum wage and other benefits like retirement and Social Security? SoViEtTaNkT34 CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Tarrifs... thats what they are called and if Nixon didnt have watergate they would probably be existing today...
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:55 pm
CrowNotAngelGRL Oh I got ya. I didn't know they were called a particular name. Probably existing? Aren't corporations today sending jobs over seas to avoid paying the minimum wage and other benefits like retirement and Social Security? SoViEtTaNkT34 CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Tarrifs... thats what they are called and if Nixon didnt have watergate they would probably be existing today... tarrifs make imports more expensive then products made here.... atleast to US consumers.. or the ones instituding it.... For example Denmark puts higher taxes/tarrifs on energy inefficent products.... then energy efficent...
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:07 am
SoViEtTaNkT34 CrowNotAngelGRL Oh I got ya. I didn't know they were called a particular name. Probably existing? Aren't corporations today sending jobs over seas to avoid paying the minimum wage and other benefits like retirement and Social Security? SoViEtTaNkT34 CrowNotAngelGRL Yes that's correct. The only way this would work is if we had a president who used the law to make a law to close all the loopholes into sending jobs out of the country and keeping jobs here. If my governor can do it here in TN with TN jobs than I think surely the president of the US can do it and other country's. Monsieur Rosebud personally Im a fan of peaceful revolution, but we run into a problem in today's globalized world. Everyone leaves their job, ok, temporary disruption, but the jobs will just be outsourced in time Tarrifs... thats what they are called and if Nixon didnt have watergate they would probably be existing today... tarrifs make imports more expensive then products made here.... atleast to US consumers.. or the ones instituding it.... For example Denmark puts higher taxes/tarrifs on energy inefficent products.... then energy efficent... The government of MA is not gives tax ride offs to those who buy energy efficacies appliances, same with power plants they do the same.
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:44 am
Ok, well, to answer these questions, I would like to provide some quotes. Now people why do you answer such a question when you lack experience of a revolution? not just that, but you lack theoretical and historical understanding of a revolution. Read some Lenin, some Marx, some Engels, some Trotsky, some Blanqui, Robespierre, Babeuf! Now, here are the quotes: Quote: "If the political struggle of the working class assumes revolutionary form," wrote Marx, ridiculing the anarchists for their repudiation of politics, "and if the workers set up their revolutionary dictatorship in place of the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, they commit the terrible crime of violating principles, for in order to satisfy their wretched, vulgar everyday needs and to crush the resistance of the bourgeoisie, they give the state a revolutionary and transient form, instead of laying down their arms and abolishing the state." Quote: Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is an act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon, all of which are highly authoritarian means. And the victorious party must maintain its rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionaries. Would the Paris Commune have lasted more than a day if it had not used the authority of the armed people against the bourgeoisie? Cannot we, on the contrary, blame it for having made too little use of that authority? Therefore, one of two things: either that anti-authoritarians down't know what they are talking about, in which case they are creating nothing but confusion. Or they do know, and in that case they are betraying the cause of the proletariat. In either case they serve only reaction." Quote: "The free people's state has been transferred into the free state. Taken in its grammatical sense, a free state is one where the state is free in relation to its citizens, hence a state with a despotic government. The whole talk about the state should be dropped, especially since the Commune, which was no longer a state in the proper sense of the word. The 'people's state' has been thrown in our faces by the anarchists to the point of disgust, although already Marx's book against Proudhon and later the Communist Manifesto say plainly that with the introduction of the socialist order of society the state dissolves of itself [sich auflost] and disappears. As the state is only a transitional institution which is used in the struggle, in the revolution, to hold down one's adversaries by force, it is sheer nonsense to talk of a 'free people's state'; so long as the proletariat still needs the state, it does not need it in the interests of freedom but in order to hold down its adversaries, and as soon as it becomes possible to speak of freedom the state as such ceases to exist. We would therefore propose replacing the state everywhere by Gemeinwesen, a good old German word which can very well take the place of the French word commune." Quote: "... This shattering [Sprengung] of the former state power and its replacement by a new and truly democratic one is described in detail in the third section of The Civil War. But it was necessary to touch briefly here once more on some of its features, because in Germany particularly the superstitious belief in the state has passed from philosophy into the general consciousness of the bourgeoisie and even of many workers. According to the philosophical conception, the state is the 'realization of the idea', or the Kingdom of God on earth, translated into philosophical terms, the sphere in which eternal truth and justice are, or should be, realized. And from this follows a superstitious reverence for the state and everything connected with it, which takes root the more readily since people are accustomed from childhood to imagine that the affairs and interests common to the whole of society could not be looked after other than as they have been looked after in the past, that is, through the state and its lucratively positioned officials. And people think they have taken quite an extraordinary bold step forward when they have rid themselves of belief in hereditary monarchy and swear by the democratic republic. In reality, however, the state is nothing but a machine for the oppression of one class by another, and indeed in the democratic republic no less than in the monarchy. And at best it is an evil inherited by the proletariat after its victorious struggle for class supremacy, whose worst sides the victorious proletariat will have to lop off as speedily as possible, just as the Commune had to, until a generation reared in new, free social conditions is able to discard the entire lumber of the state." Hopefully that will suffice for the matter. If not, contact me... by email... and I will be able to provide you with and actual answer, as opposed to forcing you to formulate your own like this... And why do peopple /still/ let themselves be led all over the place by the anarchoids?
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